why i see my name there ? =.="

btw, we have local time code seller, daniel tee , u can contact him to buy ur monthly game code .

p/s : dont tell newbie about gtc buy with isk ler, the price now is insane

All IMHO.

1. I would say EVE is not for the casual player, BUT is a game for ppl with a working lifestyle with genuine RL matters to attend, eg family, job, etc. I say this because EVE is an indepth game with many things to grasp and understand. EVE does not allow one to simply pick up and drop like say an FPS or a console game. If you have say only 10 hours a week to play games, then yes, EVE can suit u. But if you don't have the time nor stomach to read up and think of things like calculating damage per second, understanding your enemy's capabilities, learning things like resistance tanking, damage types, etc, then your casualness will impact your overall gameplay experience.

2. Like the others have mentioned here, hardcore players spend more time in the game therefore grind more money and learn the ropes alot faster. Casual mode ie a few hours a week, you have alot less money and generally take alot longer to keep pace with hardcore players in terms of what grinding can get you. Many many many things will remain out of your wallet's reach for a long long long time.

3. While EVE sports a time-based skill development system, unlike others like WoW or LotRO where u need to kill and kill to level up a skill or character level, it's not really the entire picture. What time-based skill means is this: for example to fly a ship (hypothetical), you need say level 3 of that skill to fly the ship:

Level 1: Takes 30minutes to train.
Level 2: Takes 3 hrs to train.
Level 3: Takes 14 hrs to train.

What this means is that in 17hrs and 30mins real time, your character will learn Level 3 of that skill. However, because there is no skill queueing, you have to login to change skills after completing Level 1 and Level 2. If you're a working chap on Casual mode without the luxury of logging in whenever you feel like, you're gonna have to put off training this skill until later or train another (longer) skill until u can.

So even if EVE is a time-based system, someone who can be online alot longer and more often will reach Level 3 of that skill alot earlier than you, which again reinforces the Hardcore/Casual dichotomy.

As for playing for "free", EVE allows gamers with some ingame cash to exchange it for real game time. It is possible to be a casual gamer and be able to afford a 90 day pass in 5-6 months' casual gametime, but as with all things, YMMV.

The best thing you can do is download the EVE demo and get a 14-day trial key and give it a shot.

The best part about EVE for me is the broad spectrum of activities a player can do ingame, both to suit hardcore and casual play styles. There's trade, manufacturing, research, PvE combat, pirating, realm vs realm (called null-security combat or nulsec) battles and much much more. As a casual EVE'er (only about 10 hrs per week, straddling other PC games, a job and a family), some of these activities completely suit me, but not all.

if kena kill in eve, will have to start over again or ?????
and how time code work? game time deduct when login or game time will deduct no matter login or not?

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Added on November 12, 2007, 5:53 pmfor system requirement,
ram 1gb
2ghz turion 64
ati radeon xpress 1100 256mb
wireless connection [streamyx 1.5mb   slow.....]

will this play eve smooth or just ......

Why quote mine only never quote others? Picking on me

I dun actually mean really use calculator calculate lah, example only... but without looking at damage, damage potentials, stats and basically all the harcore math stuff, why do EVE'ers bother with eg ammo types eg anti-matter vs iridium, wrath vs cataclysm, etc?

As for corps overcoming problems, indeed being in a corp, NAY, being in a community will help but most of the time it'll only help so much.

As for skill training, YMMV u feel it's no big deal and the last thing I need here is to argue with LYN incumbents. That's ur opinion and that's that.

But I believe there will be casual gamers who do think it's no small matter. Even the most casual of gamers will want to progress and somehow get ahead. If casual gamers think it's no big deal, then the savegame won't exist, clones can't be installed and people won't be asking for skill queues. Whether people like TheNameX or moiskyrie fall under this category or not I dunno, but as a fellow newcomer to EVE I felt that this point should be made known and made clearly without the beer goggles of longtime exposure or excessive fanboyism to EVE to cloud the issue.

EVE gametime deducts in realtime regardless of whether u login or not. And there's no carry over. If your subscription expires in 1 month's time and you don't login for that month, bye bye 1 month.

There are 2 definitions of "killed" in EVE, having ur ship blow up and having your pilot or "pod" get killed (podded). If your ship blows up you lose ur ship and all the modules u fitted in it but you can fly your pod back to a station and restart. However, if after ur ship blows up and your pod gets blown up as well, you respawn at the last station you created a clone at.

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Added on November 12, 2007, 10:06 pm
NP just that after awhile in kopitiam and LYN it's obvious one has to tread VERY carefully.

ALL IMHO and YMMV.

Another EVE noob reporting in    Just signed up for the 14-day trial today,went through the tutorial halfway (before the server shut down for maintenance) and all I've got to say is damn,so many stuff to digest in this game...one of the most complicated MMO I've played.And I've only played the tutorials lol.
Hope to meet you guys in game so I can watch and learn from the sifu's.My ign is Keel Steel 

hey red...... my honey is on the air again........... i really drooling man...... go see astro AEC at 8.00pm weekdays.....she's in it........ hmmmmmm   

lolz.... i don't need another drone girl...... well its my previous avatar..... my honey you know.... tehehehhe

UNCLE ACHELONE LAHHHHHHHHHHHH

His HONEY is DAN LOR.... U Din see his GOAT BENDING KAH ?

why you!!!!!....... 

anyway what's happening on EVE? are they using the vagabond extensively in small gang still?. what's everyone upto and somebody can tell me what's going on in providence...... 

Hi, new player here and i have a few questions. Im a gallente special ops and completed the tutorials already (running on an incursus). It might be important that i state what i plan to do ingame,  missions are what i plan to do for now until i gain more knowledge regarding this game.

Can someone kindly let me know whether i should save up for the catalyst destroyer or another ship? Also, i am having difficulties deciding on the right setup for my ship, do i use blasters or rails for missions?  how about some guide with the middle and low slots?

I understand i should be trying things out myself, would appreciate it if someone can point me into proper directions. Thank you for your time.

Make sure you read all the available bugs first before simply patching the game. Some known errors would f*** your boot.ini file, which then prevents you from booting your PC. This only happens to Windows XP users tho, Vista ain't affected.

For better fleet performance, don't upgrade to the new 500MB+ patch yet for new graphics. Use the current classic version and enjoy the smoothness until your PC can really take the new graphic contents.

Dan , where r u? wanna get GTC de . Ready to rock again. So d/l the full premier graphic client will cause problem or not ar?? worry about it.

Anyway the graphic nice ~

Phoenix u earlier not using the latest driver is it? @@

it's also not quite like ragnarok.

if you're the a$$hole type you should do pretty well