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 Please Recommend... a Hifi Stereo System, Pls state your budget pls!!!

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yfyap69
post Jun 13 2008, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(rockccf @ Jun 13 2008, 12:31 PM)
Hi,

I am going to buy a hifi system.

is Pioneer VSX517 good? (I got the price at 700)
is there another amp better than this in the same range?

for the front speakers, i will go for Wharfedale 9.1..

for the center and surround, i will go for Futek.

is this combination good?
Do you guys have any recommendation for the sub-woofer?

i mainly use the speakers for PS3 and DVD-movies.

I can't afford to buy high-end amps and speakers coz my budget is around 2k++ only~~~

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It's recommended to match the front with the center speaker using the same manufacturer & series. I think you can get a Wharfedale surround and center (WH2) for less than RM1k. You need sub woofer for movies especially you are using bookshelf speaker like Wharfedale 9.1. Good entry level sub are Wharfedale SW150 (around RM1300). The other option is to get a floorstander instead of bookshelf. I'm using Mission M33i with MH3 surround & center. Total cost RM2050. Wharfedale Crystal CR40 with WH2 surround + center is around RM1680. Then get a sub at a later stage.

This post has been edited by yfyap69: Jun 13 2008, 04:00 PM
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post Jun 13 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(rockccf @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 PM)
Thanks for reply.
For the wharfedale package u recommended which cost 1680, i think the mission is better than this,right?(compared the prices)

for the wharfedale package, can i get Wharfedale 9.1 instead of crystal cr40?
(if can, best get bookshelf speaker instead of floor standing, coz floor standing is too big to fit in my little room.)

Besides, is the amp I've chosen OK? (i am looking for entry-level) (Coz i am not audiophile and budget limited,at first i was thinking for going for HTIB, but many ppl here say HTIB not good even it's cheap)
Do you have another similar amps to suggest?

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Yeah, I prefer Mission compare to Wharfedale. You can mix the 9.1 with the WH2. No problem with that. Since you room is small, you can opt for bookshelf but without sub you will lose some bass. As for the amp, Pioneer is ok. Don't buy HTIB. Waste money only.
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post Jun 13 2008, 05:00 PM

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You will need a sub eventually. Getting a floorstander can help to increase the bass but it will not be the same as subwoofer. Since your room is small then get the book shelf and if you have the $$$ get the subwoofer.
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post Jun 13 2008, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(rockccf @ Jun 13 2008, 05:06 PM)
IC.
How about the price of WH2 and 9.1? Is it more expensive more than the CR40 with WH2?

If the price is below 2k definitely i will go for it.

Ya,one more thing, let's say in the future i might want to upgrade my amp to a better one, the speakers remain the same and the sound quality will be much improved,right?(Assuming I will be getting a good amp).
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I'm not sure the price for CR40 alone but I think it's close to 9.1. WH2 is around RM8xx. My personal opinion is speaker play a bigger role than amp provided the amp able to drive it. Therefore I would recommend you to invest more on speaker. Also speaker tend to last longer than amp as the technology in amp will change faster than speaker.
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post Jun 13 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(rockccf @ Jun 13 2008, 06:46 PM)
Oh...
Ya, CR40 compared to 9.1, in terms of sound, which one is better?


Added on June 13, 2008, 6:47 pm

You're right!
I guess i have to reconsider whether i should be taking the flood stand type speakers or bookshelf type speakers.
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I have not try 9.1 but base on the # of awards it win, I think it should be better than CR40. You can consider Mission M33i as it's only around RM1180
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post Jun 20 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Jun 19 2008, 01:55 PM)
Anyone know the price for Mission m30i, m31I, M3as and Marantz CR401?

Im thinking of a 2.1 setup with either m30i or m31i but leaning more towards m31i cause it seems to have move power. I have budget of 3k and i think its not enough for the setup i mentioned.
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M30i is around RM600. Not sure on M31i or M3as.
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post Aug 18 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 17 2008, 07:35 PM)
Ya, thats why need to do our homework before choosing and need rely on sifus like u guys to help us. I even might plan to purposely go KL just to audition hifi shops one day.

So anyone can give comment on my questions?
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I'm using M33i now. Good enough. No need to go for M34i or M35i. Some says M33i is better than M34i because the additional driver make the sound more muddy. Try it out yourself.
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post Aug 18 2008, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 18 2008, 01:13 PM)
Actually, i plan to connect the system to my pc. So im not too keen on CR401 as my pc shall be the source connect to amp. Cables, ya, i wont go for audiophile cables in the beginning first.

Dont know why but i quite fond of having a subwoofer. tongue.gif Floorstanders, i might not have the space for that in my room (study room) where the pc is.
How much you buy ur M33i? And know the price for M30i, M31i, M34i, M35i?

I cant find any pricelist for mission products.
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M33i is around RM1200. I saw CMY has a demo unit for that price. M30i is around RM600 but during AV fair can get around RM400.
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post Aug 19 2008, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 18 2008, 06:19 PM)
o.O"

I tot the M30i was going to be in the 4 digit range. Hmmm. Shows how little i know about speaker pricing.

Is there any site that you guys use as general pricelist guide?
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M30i is the cheapest book shelf for Mission. The M33i floor stander is only around RM1200. M31i and M32i should be between this 2 price range. M30i maybe too small for you. You may want to consider bigger book shelf like the M31i or M32i. M30i is ok for surround. As for the general price guide, I had compiled one before. Here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/628189
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post Aug 20 2008, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 19 2008, 06:33 PM)
O thanks, i will read up on that. I just did a measurement of the table and the M33i is only 85cm tall. My table is 74 mm tall. If that is the case this speaker is kinda short isnt it? Is there a way to make them taller a bit?

How are mission speakers sound signature like? And those who normally use their Hifi with their pc, how do you guys position ur speakers?
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Most of the hifi speaker is around this height. The height is just nice (ear level) if you sit on a living room couch. In your case, may be bookshelf is a better option. See the review here : http://whathifi.com/Review/Mission-m33i/
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post Aug 21 2008, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 20 2008, 07:49 PM)
How do you position your speakers yftap69? You are using as HT correct? What is the best positioning for a pc desk situation if im using a floorstander to get the soundstaging correct?

As for M31i and M32i, i see that M31i gets more stars in the brochure than M32i.

So if i were to choose say M32i which is RM800 (proly higher in Sarawak), with the balance from the RM3k budget, can you recommend an amp (that can connect to pc) and a woofer to go with it?
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I place my M33i slightly toe in. See photo here : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/439516/+140

Yes, I'm using it as HT. Actually the positioning concept is the same. The tweeter height must be around ear level. So you must fix your siting position first before you place your speaker. For floor stander, it's pretty std height and if you sit on a couch, it will be just nice. For desktop PC can, it will be difficult for floor stander. Bookshelf maybe a better choice. Yes, you are right, M31i get better review than M32i. The difference is on the cabinet volume. Maybe M31i is just nice whereby M32i is too big while m30i is too small. Just my wild guess. But for M33i and M34i, M33i get better review because the additional driver on the M34i cause the sound to be muddy.

Base on your budget, you have around RM2200 for the amp. Not much choice in Malaysia. Only Yamaha is the most value for money as the price is controlled. Other brands are much more expensive here in Malaysia. Eg : Onkyo 606 sells for RM2800 in Malaysia while in Singapore it only cost you RM1700. Your best choice will be Yamaha 663 which is around RM1800. I'm not sure on the connection from the PC. I guess you can either use optical or coaxial. Don't think PC got HDMI connection.
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Aug 21 2008, 12:44 PM)
Wow, amps are so expensive. Anything more budget than that? If not, not much $ left for subwoofer lol. How are Marantz amp prices? Im guessing a decent sub, is RM700 upwards yes?

Hoping not to go over RM3k how ever i can push till RM3.5k if necessary in the end.

Ya, i think i will use Optical. I dont know if its just me or what but, when i compare the optical out on my pc and the optical out on my Philips Aurillium, i feel the Aurillium sounds better. smile.gif
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You can try here : http://hifi4sale.blogspot.com/

A lot of bargain stuff. Marantz is good for Hifi. If you do not plan to go for the new hi def format like Thru HD or DTS MA, those older amp will suit you well. You can get maybe below RM1k. See here : http://www.hiwaylaser.com/product_listing

For entry level sub like the SW150, it's already around RM1300. Go for used one if you want below RM1k.
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post Aug 23 2008, 09:30 AM

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Most of the AV amp will have pre out for subwoofer. I'm not sure about stereo amp. I check out some stereo amp like the PM4001, doesn't seems to have any pre out for sub. Yamaha 663 has per out for sub. If you are in KL, can drop by Yamaha sales in Kelana Jaya.
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post Aug 23 2008, 09:29 PM

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I saw M31i in KL AV show selling for RM399. Of course that is during sales price. Onkyo 506 doesn't decode the new Hidef codec (DTS MA & Dolby Thru HD). I guess you only use it for stereo then it's ok. I heard some one in east malaysia can get the 606 for RM2100. That one is a good buy. Between the 663 and 506, 663 is the better buy. What Whaferdale model he offer you? I guess it't the WH210. Better get the SW150.
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post Aug 25 2008, 01:32 PM

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Your room size is big. Bookshelf may not be adequate for you. Budget too little for dedicated HT. You best choice will be HTiB with wireless surround since you don't want to run wire across.
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post Sep 10 2008, 10:12 AM

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Or get the Mission M33i with MH3 center & surround for RM2200 with some spare cash for cable.
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post Jun 29 2009, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(dlyz @ Jun 25 2009, 09:57 PM)
Guys where can i audit MS speakers in KL, particularly Mezzo 2?

Please advice.


Added on June 26, 2009, 4:05 pmBump my question
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There is one Hifi shop in 1 U that has the Mezzo. Beside the Japanese restraunt "Shogun".
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post Jun 29 2009, 01:41 PM

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The Hifi Shop. See detail

http://www.hotfrog.com.my/Companies/The-Hifi-Shop

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