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 Please Recommend... a Hifi Stereo System, Pls state your budget pls!!!

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Omegaminx
post Aug 18 2005, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Categg @ Aug 17 2005, 11:21 AM)
LOL.. RM4750.. just when i thought my upgradetits had kicked in.. maybe i should start being nicer to Omegaminx since he can get at that price tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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I get even better than that price...hehehe RM2xxx, well back then, haven't contacted the dealer for yonks these days smile.gif

Categg, u an ATC fan, if you r seriously interested, maybe can get for RM3000+ a bit (new). PMC DB1+(transmission line) is also very musical (LS3/5A musicality we r talking about here) but that cost a bomb, like RM5000 (RM4800+)...I think ATC would be a better buy, equal or better mids/highs but a bit bass shy (sealed) compared to the PMC DB1+ which is a transmission line = more bass

Some speakers u don't need to buy if u have good rapport with a dealer, just drop by and listen when u feel like it, after work, happy hour, holiday etc....a bit longer into hifi, we all learn how to economize (unless u r into money-printing business) smile.gif
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post Aug 18 2005, 08:48 PM

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can anybody recommend me a good dealer / supplier to go to ?

else frmo music room and the one in midvalley i really dun know where to look...
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post Aug 18 2005, 08:59 PM

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tq to omegaminx for providing a good list to start..

although i haven't really heard them yet but i think i kinda like the way the epos looks .. maybe will give that a try first

the B&W i've heard ... not so much with bass ... so maybe i'llt ry others first..

anyway still need to build some contacts .. so would appreciate if anybody can lend a helping hand to a n00b... tq~!!!!!
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post Aug 18 2005, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 18 2005, 08:48 PM)
can anybody recommend me a good dealer / supplier to go to ?
else frmo music room and the one in midvalley i really dun know where to look...
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There's CMY at S.Wang,Damansara, Sunway Pyramid, 4 shops in Amcorp Mall, many more at City Square Jln Ampang. Tong Lee at LowYatPlaza..manymore.
Don't be impulsive..go audition the offerings, review the prices and se which suits you. There's always the 2nd hand route too!..Star Audiofile, www.music-matters.net..take your pick

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post Aug 18 2005, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 18 2005, 08:48 PM)
can anybody recommend me a good dealer / supplier to go to ?

else frmo music room and the one in midvalley i really dun know where to look...
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okie there are few dealers carry ae speakers and nad.but if u want the rm 1.6k for the nad 352,i think u need to stick to music room in 1U.that the only place where u can get this price.if u want a brand new nad 352 should be aroound 2.3k.as for the ae.try the disti in puchong ioi mall.perfect hifi sdn bhd.but they dont carry nad.another option is hiway laser in ss2.they carry both of the brand u looking for.as for the price,must see how u perform when bargaining tongue.gif
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post Aug 18 2005, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(scotty @ Aug 18 2005, 09:07 PM)
okie there are few dealers carry ae speakers and nad.but if u want the rm 1.6k for the nad 352,i think u need to stick to music room in 1U.that the only place where u can get this price.if u want a brand new nad 352 should be aroound 2.3k.as for the ae.try the disti in puchong ioi mall.perfect hifi sdn bhd.but they dont carry nad.another option is hiway laser in ss2.they carry both of the brand u looking for.as for the price,must see how u perform when bargaining tongue.gif
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I think Tan from perfect do carry NAD brand. smile.gif
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QUOTE(utellme @ Aug 18 2005, 09:32 PM)
I think Tan from perfect do carry NAD brand.  smile.gif
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u mean andy tan kah?hehehehe.well can give it a try.no harm doing so.but do bargain a bit on his price biggrin.gif hehehe.
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post Aug 19 2005, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 18 2005, 08:59 PM)
tq to omegaminx for providing a good list to start..

although i haven't really heard them yet but i think i kinda like the way the epos looks .. maybe will give that a try first

the B&W i've heard ... not so much with bass ... so maybe i'llt ry others first..

anyway still need to build some contacts .. so would appreciate if anybody can lend a helping hand to a n00b... tq~!!!!!
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dsiew, replied ur PM liao.

utellme, u r here again. Nice to c u around. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 19 2005, 01:52 PM

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Hi,

I would suggest that you guys go for used ones rather than new ones. Much better value for money. Sometimes you will not believe what you might just get.
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post Aug 19 2005, 01:55 PM

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but it is still risky to some as you do not know the history of the equipment esp CDP. Amp and Spkrs are the safer bet but I am not saying that it is 100% okay.
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post Aug 19 2005, 07:22 PM

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i think amp maybe i'll go with the music room one (if it's still available)...

wat do u guys think ?
both nads on offer...
1.6k for the 80w one .. or 2.5k for the 150w one ..

sprks to go for 2nd hand ? is that advisable ? i know then it won't need to be run in (heheh but i do hope it wasn't really runned into the ground by the previous owner) ...

anywya for 2nd hand route ? only online or are there better plaecs to go to ?

oh ya.. forgot to mention

is 1.6k for the 352ct a good deal or not ?
cos it looks pretty good to me... just getting a 2nd opinion ...
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post Aug 19 2005, 07:58 PM

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whoops... one more thing... just wondering .. how do u guys rate the
nads vs the marantz ?

seems that the marantz 7200 amp and 7300 cdp is in my range as well...
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post Aug 19 2005, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 19 2005, 07:58 PM)
whoops... one  more thing... just wondering .. how do u guys rate the
nads vs the marantz ?

seems that the marantz 7200 amp and 7300 cdp is in my range as well...
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Hi Fi Choice has good remarks for both amps - Marantz PM7200 and NAD C352, u have to listen for yourself though, objectively, Marantz gives 95 wpc and can be switched to pure Class A mode (there are 2 modes to choose from, Class A might give you a more warm - and some say tube-like sound, others who heard can't tell the difference & I m one of the latter LOL). And the PM7200 cost less. On the other hand, the NAD C352CT runs at 80 wpc and has a less classic facade on the outside - looks like plastic-feel comparatively. Soundwise u have to listen as there are mixed views. WHF rates NAD C352CT as "Integrated Amp of the Year 2004".

If you r planning to get the Marantz CD7300, it might be worth while to consider the PM7200 - guess they look more matching
Do not get the bigger sibling, NAD C372 as this is the "black sheep" of the prestigious NAD line, even WHF ditched it with a 2 or 3 star rating. It does have lots of watts but mostly plain grunts & lacking in SQ. This NAD372 was the worst amp in one group test if I remember correctly.

I personally like the NAD sound a notch better, more natural and musical for tracks I tested.....one thing to note also about the Marantz CD7300 is it seems to play music at a slower pace (alone u won't realize it, but when u A/B with faster CDP like the Cambridge 640C, Rotel etc... it feels more slow-paced...I also read about this on a website- audioenz i believe).

Good Luck, if I were on your budget RM5000, I would get the Epos M5(~RM1600+, sale price), NAD C352(~RM1600 demo), NADC542 CDP (RM1700+) , some Supra cables

There are many combos to mix & match, that's the beauty of hifi line as compared to the studio setup(using active speakers...which have great sound too but at the same time...u can't change the flavour of the sound to macth your system at times)

Good Luck....

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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 19 2005, 07:22 PM)

sprks to go for 2nd hand ? is that advisable ? i know then it won't need to be run in (heheh but i do hope it wasn't really runned into the ground by the previous owner) ...

anywya for 2nd hand route ? only online or are there better plaecs to go to ?




http://www.music-matters.net/cgi-bin/yabb/yabb.cgi, you can go his show room to listen.

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post Aug 20 2005, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Omegaminx @ Aug 19 2005, 09:53 PM)
Hi Fi Choice has good remarks for both amps - Marantz PM7200 and NAD C352, u have to listen for yourself though, objectively, Marantz gives 95 wpc and can be switched to pure Class A mode (there are 2 modes to choose from, Class A might give you a more warm - and some say tube-like sound, others who heard can't tell the difference & I m one of the latter LOL). And the PM7200 cost less. On the other hand, the NAD C352CT runs at 80 wpc and has a less classic facade on the outside - looks like plastic-feel comparatively. Soundwise u have to listen as there are mixed views. WHF rates NAD C352CT as "Integrated Amp of the Year 2004".

If you r planning to get the Marantz CD7300, it might be worth while to consider the PM7200 - guess they look more matching
Do not get the bigger sibling, NAD C372 as this is the "black sheep" of the prestigious NAD line, even WHF ditched it with a 2 or 3 star rating. It does have lots of watts but mostly plain grunts & lacking in SQ. This NAD372 was the worst amp in one group test if I remember correctly.

I personally like the NAD sound a notch better, more natural and musical for tracks I tested.....one thing to note also about the Marantz CD7300 is it seems to play music at a slower pace (alone u won't realize it, but when u A/B with faster CDP like the Cambridge 640C, Rotel etc... it feels more slow-paced...I also read about this on a website- audioenz i believe).

Good Luck, if I were on your budget RM5000, I would get the Epos M5(~RM1600+, sale price), NAD C352(~RM1600 demo), NADC542 CDP (RM1700+) , some Supra cables

There are many combos to mix & match, that's the beauty of hifi line as compared to the studio setup(using active speakers...which have great sound too but at the same time...u can't change the flavour of the sound to macth your system at times)

Good Luck....

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btw omegaminx,did u listen b4 the setup u mentioned ?i just wonder how the setup gonna be?or any shop i can test it out 1 shot?with all the speakers and amp and the most important thing is the supra cable biggrin.gif in case u donno what i was saying,here is the setup.

and 1 more thing to add?will marantz cd player sounded slow?i always thought marantz is very dynamic sounding.fast and punchy tongue.gif and as for the cambridge cd or rotel will sounded too british?british = neutral or smooth

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Epos M5(~RM1600+, sale price), NAD C352(~RM1600 demo), NADC542 CDP (RM1700+) , some Supra cables

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post Aug 20 2005, 02:40 AM

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where to get the epos m5 for 1.6k ???
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QUOTE(dsiew @ Aug 20 2005, 02:40 AM)
where to get the epos m5 for 1.6k ???
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for that type of price u can get a lot of speakers.i'll list them down here

1.B&W (dm-601 s3)
2.Acoustic Energy(add few more buck and can get the aegis evo 3)
3.Mission (m-33)
4.JPW
5.psb
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post Aug 20 2005, 10:23 AM

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ok...
b&w i know in midvalley
AE in puchong
PSB in 1U
but where to find the missions and psb ?
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post Aug 21 2005, 09:39 AM

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im a newbie in this area. just got my quad 11l and soundstage 1.5. but my useing dvd player. thinking might get a new player. can anyone share some idea for the new player. the budget is aroung 1000
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Dsiew: Try Acoustic Arts in City Square for Epos M5, the RM1650+ was promotion price during AV fest, u can try and see if it's still available for that price and hear the setup first b4 buying.

Scotty: I heard this in a colleague's house, the only difference in his setup was the CD player, he was using a NAD521BEE instead but should be quite the same sonics. Regarding the Marantz CD7300, I just dunno why but the 1st impression on listening to it was music sounded tardively slower, just by a bit, especially after switching CDP to a CA640C/Rotel RA-01, at first I thought it was just me but later I read this:
http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2003/marantz_cd7300.shtml
But this is not saying that it slows everything down, in fact, depending on music taste, u might like the slow but melancholic speed.

I agree that AE Evo 3s are a great buy for ~2k+ (forgot about that), so is the Mission 33i(new model has an i=improved) which got a good WHF rating of 5/5. Apparently IAG has bought over Mission as well, making them boss of Quad, Wharfedale, Mission, Audiolab(amps-coming back). So I suppose we'll see lots of similar designs but different labels - hopefully the characteristic sound of each will be retained. Have read good things about PSB/Energy speakers but only tested the Energy C-3s (Mediaplex) but found them too $$ for the sound (aka can get better speakers for their price).

Cheers!

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