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post Nov 12 2007, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(plankton @ Nov 12 2007, 12:21 PM)
any suggestions on dealing with the cold boot issue?
right now still testing.. turned off all the eist and the other one, parallel, serial port etc2..
ram at auto - becomes 5-6-6-16 @ 706mhz
voltages in bios:
cpu - 1.375 (1.296 in cpuz)
ram +2
mch+1
fsb+1

tested ram timings set to 5 5 5 15 in bios, but got the cold boot reset on some occasions.. so trying to see if the ram is causing it.

what else should i test?

cpu = e2140 353x8 @ 2.82Ghz
added 2inch can blowing onto chipset.
mobo = p35 ds3l

how i tested : shut down pc, turn off psu switch, turn off ac switch, wait, turn on ac + psu switch, wait, turn on pc.
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try not to tighten up d timin 1st if u are to find out d max speed of ya chip. try one at a moment will make ya life easier... smile.gif

it could be d ram or d chip limitation. ram test with memtest (leave it to auto for max stability), while d limitation of chip can be found usin prime ot orthos.

in general,

find max fsb:

lower cpu multi (avoid cpu hit d wall)
lower ram multi (avoid ram hit d wall)
loosen ram timin (avoid ram hit d wall)



find max cpu:

max cpu multi
max fsb
lower ram multi (avoid ram hit d wall)
loosen ram timin (avoid ram hit d wall)



find max ram MHz:

lower cpu multi (avoid cpu hit d wall)
lower fsb & use ram multi > 1:1 (to avoid fsb limitation)
loosen ram timin (avoid ram hit d wall)


correct me if i'm wrong, still new to intel... tongue.gif
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post Nov 13 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Nov 13 2007, 01:07 AM)
is 965p-ds4 temp not accurate?
temp 1 is always 40+°c all the time,
side panel on and off also same temp...
it couldnt be that high rite?
how reliable is the temp stated with its sensor?

spec as in sig...

oc-ed to 3.0 now (7x428)
stock vcore, vdimm (+0.05v)

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i trust coretemp more than speedfan or other softwares. it could be that high due to improper contact of die & d ihs. mine on stock voltage idle bout 30'C, on load d temp is about 50+'C. smile.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 11:30 AM)
I just happen to grab an E2140, Gigabyte P35-S3L with KVR Hynix chips @ 8 x 390 with memory divider set to "2.00".

What do you guys normally set the memory divider to? Always 1:1 or higher?
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8*390 is quite impressive bro, hw much voltage needed for d mentioned speed? smile.gif

mem divider depend on how gud ya ram is, i put mine @ 2.5, runnin my 2140 @ 2.8 ~ 2.9GHz. d thing i notice is that some divider like 2.66 or 3.33 are not favored by d board (or chip or ram). sweat.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 02:06 PM)
ah_khoo, I can't remember but I'll check again tonight. I only manage to play with it for 2-3 hours yesterday.

What's 2.5? Is it 3:2 or 5:4? Which one is faster - 2.00 or 2.5?

The numbers are indeed confusing. Anyone knows how to decrypt and map it to standard memory divider numbers? sad.gif
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bro, for gigabyte board, it's more like a mem multiplier than mem divider (for ya case). 2.00 is equal to 1:1, since ddr is twice d speed of ya fsb. d higher d meme multiplier is, d higher d frequency of ram. say ya fsb is 300, if u put mem multi @ 2.00, ur actually runnin it @ 600MHz, if 2.50 multi is used, ya ram will run @ 750MHz. smile.gif

for gigabyte 965p ds3 board, the lowest multi is 2.00, followed by 2.5, 2.66, 3, 3.33, and 4. biggrin.gif

3:2 is referrin to 2.5 i supposed... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 02:22 PM)
ah_khoo, thanks and I'm running on 2.00 so in a way, yours should be faster if you're doing it at 2.5 smile.gif Maybe I should try that as well.

Btw, how about the other optimization settings like "Extreme", etc. Do you set everything to the max?
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 02:53 PM)
ah_khoo, thanks and I'll try it out further tonight and post some screenshots/benchmarks. I'm still new to all these so lots of guidance from the pros like you are very much appreciated smile.gif

Btw, I also share the same LCD as you do, lol.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:18 PM)
Apologize for that ah_khoo but I really do think you guys are more knowledgable than me. I didn't know you still remember this old man biggrin.gif

Btw, what is your Vdimm, FSB, NB voltages for your overclock?
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ram @ ~900MHz, vdimm = 2.0v
fsb and nb voltage increased by a notch bro, btw, kucing did mentioned that can leave these voltage to stock if fsb is less than 450. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 14 2007, 05:41 PM)
Thanks ah_khoo biggrin.gif
450 * 8 = 3.6Ghz - Nice overclock bro!
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nolah, not my case, i'm doin 8*36x only currently. i've did a quick check, think d fsb wall is around 395, 400 & above sometimes can boot, sometimes cant... doh.gif

QUOTE(kucingfight @ Nov 14 2007, 05:47 PM)
ya it depends, but assuming the CPU has hit the 400fsb wall, increasing Vnb wouldnt help either, especially on those E2XXX.
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d guru has spoken... tongue.gif

yup, if d wall is hit even raisin d Vnb won't help. smile.gif

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for my case, uppin vmch (vnb i supposed) by a nothc is a must when there's oc done, else, i will have this cold boot issue. smile.gif
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QUOTE(PeowYong @ Nov 15 2007, 01:13 PM)
any way to set the multiplier not 1:1 or higher?
coz i think my ram is limiting my oc...
now running 457x7 => 3.2 Ghz with stock voltage
means that my ram is doing 914 like that...
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if u think ya ram is limitin ya oc, last resort is runnin ya ram w lower multi, not all boards have these features thou. smile.gif

u can try to use low fsb with high ram multi, see how far d ram can go, correct me if i'm wrong... wink.gif
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Nov 15 2007, 05:28 PM)
So E2XXX is hopeless for overclocking? Or have to choose stepping? M0 steeping good or not?
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E21x0 is hopeless in oc? u gotta be kiddin me mate. don't expect a chip to be able to do 100% of oc easily, not with air cooling atleast. am contented to run my e2140 @ 2.8~2.9GHz, on stock it only runs @ 1.6GHz... smile.gif
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Nov 19 2007, 12:49 AM)
anyone pairing up gigabyte 965p-ds3 rev 3.3 with q6600 g0 stepping, i got( 8800 gt graphic card,crucial ballistix rams, silverstone 560w psu with it)? any probs with temperature or oc capability? . i dont knwo anything though.. this is the mobo that i bought 2months ago (used).. but still waiting my processor from strongbaby. is it a good mobo for quadcore? i have had read the reviews on it but all based on duo core. just want to make sure its good for quad use as well.. any one can help me?
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it's decent enuf for dual core but for quad it mite not brin d best outta ya chip. our board (yes, i'm usin d same board as u) has only 3 phase something (power or wat so ever rclxub.gif ), but those high end board have 6 phase. however, am please with d board itself considerin d price it cost me. smile.gif

pls correct me if i'm wrong. wink.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 19 2007, 11:05 AM)
Hey guys, can some of you share what's the maximum FSB, voltage and timing you manage to achieve with your Hynix FP-Y5? I have been running it at 395x8 @ 2.40 (5:6) which means literally, it's running at 474. The timings are 15-5-5-5 and I have to bump hell lot of Vdimm to it sad.gif
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how much juice u fetch to ya ram bro? i would say 2.2v & below are safe for 24/7 usage. they advice active coolin to be used for vdimm 2.2v & above IIRC. wink.gif

for d capability of ram achievin certain MHz depend on batch, however, i reckon that hynix chippies can do ~1000MHz (DDR500) @ loose timin w/o any problem... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Jibek @ Nov 19 2007, 03:09 PM)
i dont have any idea which D9s on my crucials because it covered with the heatspreaders.,i just buy the crucials from shawty last wednesday..
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loosen ya timin 1st to 5-5-5-15 while u tryin to find ya max speed of ya chip. yas should be of d9gmh, which can do 1000~1200MHz @ 5-5-5-15 no sweat... smile.gif

try to up vmch by a notch, it's a must for my case. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Jibek @ Nov 19 2007, 03:58 PM)
tq bro for the info.,ohh.,before i forget.,1st attempt on OC.,my CPU runs at 2.8ghz=400fsb.,but the temperature when running orthos up to 78C..the core temp and itat shows 78C but everest only shows 63-70C..which one is true..
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try to lower ya vcore bro, u pumped ~1.46v into ya chip? dats kinda high & not suitable for 24/7 imo... i folllow coretemp temp, however there some prefer speedfan or others... smile.gif
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QUOTE(gsan @ Nov 22 2007, 01:12 PM)
what is the difference between P35 DS3 rev1.0 and rev2.0?

p/s: going to join this thread soon. smile.gif
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 24 2007, 03:05 AM)
help i cannot overclock at all!!! this really sucks!!  vmad.gif  mad.gif
1) i changed fsb from 200 to 220
2) voltage from 1.325 to 1.33
3) ram ratio from 3.33 to 2.66(so that it runs at 250x2.66=665)
4) disable all those safety stuffs like eist, blah2..
and cannot boot at all!! turn power off and then on pc, just blank screen..try more than 10 times only can boot, at that time the OC disables already..
rig is as my sig
with the combination of both cpu and motherboard, both are proven good overclockers!!
FYI before this ive put my score on 3dmark01 benchmark list with 2.75ghz d, prime etc etc all pass
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bro, our board don't really like 2.66 multi, try 2.5 u'll see it fly... smile.gif

btw, u ain't need to bump d voltage, i believe no matter how bad ya chip is, it's still capable to do 10% oc without d need of extra juice... wink.gif

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Nov 24 2007, 11:04 AM)
After reading around, I came to a conclusion whereby it's always best to run 1:1 with the lowest CAS latency as possible.
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i think it's not so suitable for our case bro, since our chips (e21x0) have fsb wall @ around 400 +/-, it's better for us to push the ram more... biggrin.gif

pls correct me if i'm wrong... wink.gif
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 24 2007, 09:43 PM)
Actually you can do close to 80% without touching the VCore at all smile.gif
bro, i believe not all chip are capable of that. smile.gif
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Nov 24 2007, 10:37 PM)
lol... what bios do u use ahkhoo??
i can only use 2.0,2.33,2.66...no 2.5 there.....
if it cant boot what else could be the prob? could the bios be it?..
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am on f12 bios bro... i took me one day to realize that our board dun really like multi 2.66 n above. my ram is of d9dcl, d lousiest chippies from micron. blush.gif

ya ram is on what chippies? smile.gif

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