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post Jul 20 2007, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(etsuko @ Jul 19 2007, 10:44 PM)
I'm rather new to OCing an Intel..

Just wondering what is an average temp for E6300 @

1. 2.4Ghz
2. 3.0 Ghz

...using stock cooling and a Li-an Li full alu casing.

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well... it be best to keep Intel Core Procs temp ard 63 and below...
BTW... Nice Casing... I always admire those Lian Li casings in ATE HQ... especially the 1ce wif RM1k price tags 1... drool.gif very good air flow design and extremely solid... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 20 2007, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(alanishev @ Jul 19 2007, 08:55 PM)
i've got a problem ere...i hope somebody will help..
as you all can see on my specs below..i only manage to oc e2160 to 210mhzx9, that is a shame becoz this cpu can oc near 100%.. i donno whats wrong but at 211mhzx9, the screen goes blank..but it log on to windows..i know it has log on to windows by hearing the windows logon sound..is it faulty gc, mobo, ram, or my psu not 'strong' enough...

lot of thanx to somebody can help...
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set ur PCIe frequency to 100... icon_rolleyes.gif
i think ur board FSB stability wall is also 480... same wif me... shakehead.gif i can get 500x7 but not stable at all...
manage to get 17sec in 1M superPI... at 3.36GHz... at 1.38V... full load temp 66 on core temp... so i don dare to keep tat speed... stay at 2.8GHz at 1.28V safer... full load 58... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 24 2007, 08:51 PM

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any1 here played Celeron 420...? it's dual core celeron running at 1.6GHz stock... i got a feeling tat it's basically PDC2140... hmm.gif
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post Jul 26 2007, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jul 26 2007, 11:48 AM)
Maybe ppl think its not worth it bcoz just add RM100 can get dual-core E2140.
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but both same speed and multiplier wor... hmm.gif for me is juz RM80 diff... brows.gif
I got ~RM1000 to spend on CPU+mobo... which 1 should i take...?

GA-P35-DQ6 + Intel PDC 2140/2160
or
GA-P35-DS3 + Intel C2D E6750

I already got a GA-965P-DS4 + C2D E6300 but need another rig for my bro... so i wanna upgrade mine and give the balance to my bro... tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2007, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 24 2007, 01:04 PM)
few more noob questions wanna ask  sweat.gif
where to change fsb:dram ratio?
and i found out something, my proc vcore is not stable, it keeps changing (observed in cpu-z)

edit: read some reviews, it says multiplier for 805D is locked at 20X  sweat.gif  now the thing i'm most curious is,why my bios doesn't have option for me to change vcore
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damn... MSI boards i got no comments cuz i got bad exp wif most of them... even the sc939 K8N-Neo4H also... shakehead.gif

for PD805... OC will require maths skills... for ur RAM... there should be a multiplier instead of ratio... so if 1:1 u set to 2x... cuz it's 2/2=1...
so if u put 3.33x u have to divide 2 to get the DDR frequency... smile.gif
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post Jul 27 2007, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 07:33 PM)
...the upcoming Intel 45nm CPUs e.g. penryn. That's the reason I got this mobo. Another reason why I got the E6750 instead of the E6850/Q6600. Planning to go for the penryn family of CPUs in the future.....  rclxm9.gif
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tat's the reason y i wanna get the 1st option cuz Celeron 420(Conroe-L) is supposed to be as good as E2140... hmm.gif Celeron 420 did 42sec in 1M super_PI on stock as compared to AMD X2 3800 which did 44sec on stock... even though the diff not big but price very big... sweat.gif tat can hold on until Penryn family... but i don need the RAID & the Big pipe thingy... Crossfire i might consider...


Added on July 27, 2007, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 26 2007, 06:50 PM)
I think the 2nd option is better as I just acquired the same configuration - GA-P35-DS3 + E6750.

I did much research on gigabyte mobos and found that the GA-P35-DS3 was suitable for me. Single PCI-E x16, ultradurable 2 features and no raid. Not much review on this board but I think it is equivalent to the GA-P35-DS3R mobo (which is only different by having the ICH9R chipset which includes the raid function). In terms of OC, this mobo is supposed to be able to go up to 490-500Mhz bus speed)

So far, I've tried a bus speed of 420Mhz and it worked flawlessly (at stock MCH/FSB voltages).

For the E6750, the only problem compared to the E6850 is the 8x multiplier. If you want to aim for 4Ghz (dunno whether possible or not), you would need a bus speed of 500Mhz!!!

So far, I'm orthosing my E6750 at 1.35v (stock voltage) at 3280Mhz. That's the highest stable OC I can get on stock voltage. Probably try higher voltages later.....
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err... my GA-965P-DS4 can do 500x7 wif E6300 but Orthos 3 sec then error and full load temp at 62... sweat.gif but voltage at 1.38V... don really wanna go for higher voltage... sweat.gif

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post Jul 28 2007, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 27 2007, 10:55 PM)
Aaaa.... orthos 3 sec then already error? That's not stable la. For me, at least 6-12 hours of orthos before I even consider it "at least" stable.

Still waiting for my xigmatek before I OC further as my core temp is already about 55'c on stock heatsink at 3.28Ghz at 1.35v. (using easytuner5, not using core temp as it shows 6'c lower temperature)
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tat's my point... i think can if i get it stable wif higher voltage but i not willing to cuz of temperature... i prefer to keep it below 63... even on full load... smile.gif


Added on July 28, 2007, 10:25 am
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 28 2007, 08:45 AM)
How high did you set your vMCH and vFSB?
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for me i set both +0.2V... sweat.gif


Added on July 28, 2007, 10:25 am
And another question wat if i replace the silent pipe on GA-P35-DQ6 wif these...
user posted image and user posted image
hmm.gif

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post Jul 28 2007, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 27 2007, 11:08 AM)
i think u just pointed out another thing i couldn't reach on my mobo  sweat.gif 
yesterday i found this guide, has anyone tried it? i know it sounds crazy, but i bet there's did that
http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3931
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eerr... u can't increase ur voltage meh....? hmm.gif
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post Jul 29 2007, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Jul 29 2007, 12:26 AM)
try playing with PCI-E Voltage, it's give a lot impact for stability.

For Gigabyte P35 series mobo, there's TRD option in BIOS. TRD = Performance Level. So, high FSB you must loose the TRD.
I hope this can help you
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ooo... i didn't notice tat in my boss's new DS3... blink.gif
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QUOTE(darude87 @ Jul 28 2007, 08:07 PM)
no, that's the weirdest thing i'm facing, msi core centre also cannot change vcore, bios also can't change  sweat.gif
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oooh... ur model is V-Class kar...? nevertheless... MSI sux... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 29 2007, 05:17 PM)
Try to read up on guides to overclocking the C2D.

It is advisable to find the limit of each component before you OC your whole rig. By this, I mean you have to find the max OC for your CPU, RAM and mobo(FSB) separately.

There are a lot of guides that teaches you on how to OC your CPU while taking the RAMs and FSB out of the equation. Also vice versa on the RAMS and mobo. Once you know the limit of each component, then it is easier to OC your whole rig while bearing in mind the limit of each component.  smile.gif
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tat kinda difficult cuz most hardware i see even same batch got diff limit...

BTW... wat does TRD do...? hmm.gif
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post Jul 30 2007, 01:25 PM

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865GV kar... try to set VCCM and another 1 or something like tat in BIOS to high and see wat wat happens... i used to reach 4.6GHz wif Celeron D347 wif it... Orthos can last for 20min... brows.gif well.... at least... tongue.gif
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post Jul 30 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 29 2007, 09:39 PM)
Exactly. That's why in the world of OC, you need to find out the max OC for each component.

tRD = tRAS = tRA = Row Active Delay. It is a RAM sub-timing setting, usually quoted as the 4th parameter i.e. 3-3-3-9
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post Jul 31 2007, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 30 2007, 03:33 PM)
Finally had a chance to test out my new rig.

On my P35-DS3, I'm stuck at 475mhz bus speed. This is at stock voltages for everything including vMCH.

No matter what I do, increase the vMCH, vFSB, vPCI-E, my mobo would hang at 480Mhz. I even tried jumping directly to 500Mhz but not successful!

Any ideas how to overcome this 480mhz wall? Or is it my CPU wall?  hmm.gif
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same here for my boss rig... using E2160... most stable is 400x8... 500x6 can achieve but not stable... super_PI 19sec though... my E6300 did 18 for 500x6... cry.gif
only thing i did was increase voltage... and most probably need better cooling... electronic component work better on lower temp due to lesser wasted power and lower resistance... smile.gif

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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jul 30 2007, 11:56 PM)
hehe.. i'm not a hardcore gamer..
also not a hardcore OC-er tongue.gif
anyway, lots need to be upgraded sweat.gif
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y upgrade if u not into gaming and OC...? good enough wat... u might have loads of issues wif graphic cards though.... smile.gif
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post Jul 31 2007, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jul 31 2007, 05:50 PM)
sumtimes feel a bit laggy liao..
haha..
anyway, what is that VCCM and VDDQ means?
I saw them in BIOS..

edited : double post sweat.gif
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seems like voltage to me... for RAM & proc...? unsure.gif
did tat solve ur unstable prob....?
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QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jul 31 2007, 05:46 PM)
it supports 667MHz rams, coz, initially, all processor don't have fsb that exceeds 333MHz, rite? we are the one who oc'ed it to more than that.. that's where the problem lies..

the lowest divider *IS* indeed 1:1 in Gigabyte 965P-DS3 mobo.. thanx for clarifying it kucingfight

i think my proc reached the wall larr, coz when i put 500MHz fsb, i already set the rams timings to 5-5-5-15...

sigh, i think i'll work on this more this weekend.. im kinda busy now..
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ur E6300 running 24/7 on 430x7 kar...? i set mine to 400x7 @ 1.28V cuz of temperature... dowan to shorten the lifespan of my proc... sweat.gif later gonna try Celeron 420 pulak... i reach 533 b4 but cannot last for more than 1 minute in Windows... doh.gif i think my RAM bottlenecked it... cuz my RAM is DDR667... my RAM can't go beyond 500MHz... cry.gif later gonna get Mushkin DDR800/1066 C4/C5 2GB kit... then try to break the wall... brows.gif
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post Aug 1 2007, 06:32 PM

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u guys ask me y mushkin...? cuz Mushkin got the best value for D9 Micron chips... and they are well known for their higher bandwidth + lower timings at the same price... their value DDR400 RAMs are rated 3-3-3-8 at stock... brows.gif and cheaper than current Corsair and Kingston summo... but Value class no D9 chips la... sweat.gif only shawty has value chip wif D9... laugh.gif
still waitting pricelist from supplier... wanna know bout the XP, HP and Redline series... the EM series sold at Low Yat are the Value performance RAM... icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Aug 1 2007, 07:38 PM)
btw t3chn0m4nc3r, can show us the CPUz for e2160 @ 500fsb?
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boss sold tat board d... now waiting for new arrival... blush.gif hang on... but it's not stable... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Are_keem @ Jul 31 2007, 09:25 PM)
maybe..
manage to boot up at 198fsb but stuck at windows welcome screen.
196fsb also not stable enough.
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well OC without increasing voltage wif FSB more than 180 is good enough already lor.... sweat.gif

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