QUOTE(petlu28 @ Sep 4 2013, 12:15 PM)
I thaught can get some learning from him about pump. " rather to create awareness of this brand and help more people understand about pumps. "[WTA] Grundfos Water Pump, CH-PT or CH-PC
[WTA] Grundfos Water Pump, CH-PT or CH-PC
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Sep 4 2013, 12:21 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 08:48 AM
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Feb 21 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 21 2014, 10:57 AM) question: i am comparing costs at them moment. if i buy a s/s tank + pump i will have to fork out min. 3.5 to 4k incl. installation. has anyone considered (or installed) a pressurised (membrane-type) tank instead (i.e. no need for pump). price for 300 l tank (volume 150l) is around 3k from grundfos and this would allow you (or me) to store the water sealed totally hygenic and with the incoming pressure from syabas (when go better pressure it will also be "stored"). so if low pressure tank will kick in with the better pressure, if no power also no problem and if no water i have the reserve water. Not so sure about what you want.anyone ever thought about it? it seems actually almost cheaper and you only have to check pressure once every two years or so and increase (just like the small tank on the pump). then can last 25+ yrs. You want to increase the pressure from the syabas. So a tank and pump is need. But a pressurize tank without a pump is just equal pressure from the syabas. Let said the pressurize tank air side is 30psi. Syabas need to have 30psi or higher to fill up the tank. If syabas only have 20psi, your tank probably can't fill up at all. Since the tank pressure is higher than the syabas. With a unstable pressure from syabas like night high or morning low, you probably end up almost no reserve water from the pressurize tank. |
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Feb 21 2014, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Feb 21 2014, 11:19 AM) I only change pipe from PVC to polypipe from meter to kitchen and meter to tangki. Don't worry much about the PVC pipe can't take higher pressure. Just install the pump and regulate the pressure. PVC pipe still can take some high pressure.From tangki onwards still PVC. Within bathroom also changed to Polypipe. Didnt pass thru living room, all goes up to roof. that's the disadvantage for future modification. but potential leaking to plaster ceiling. Seriously anyone how 0.75 horse power pump can create how many bar of pressure? Let say you just want the shower to be higher pressure to enjoy. While the rest is ok for you. Than run a new pipe to the shower only from the pump. Install a regulator for the rest and straight higher pressure for shower that with new pipe. |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Feb 21 2014, 11:37 AM) i have considered that (see the other post). unstable pressure or lower pressure than desired can be easily overcome with a one-way valve. that way i can benefit from whatever the maximum pressure is that syabas can provide during the day. in a way the tank would even out such variations. Understand your point. The problem still come from the syabas pressure. The high /low from syabas unable for you to maintain the water in the tank and the pressure. Trusting syabas for pressure and water supply without buffer is risky. Not sure your household pattern usage. If let said morning pressure is low or equal tank, the tank might not have water. Till the night when pressure is higher than the tank. How hygienic the water you want? Is this for bathroom or include the kitchen? I have planning for a while already of how to 1) have buffer water for at least 4day 2) stable pressure 24hr for whole house tap. 3) clean hygienic water for whole house. 4) Consume less energy. All this without depend on syabas. Accept water. Still in my drawing board. |
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Feb 21 2014, 12:31 PM
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Oct 6 2014, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Oct 6 2014, 07:45 AM) when i turn on the faucet, the starting pressure is low and delay for 1 second then after that water pump pressure come in, by the way my friend has CH4-40PC, the pressure come in immediately once i turn on the faucet but why mine unit has the problem of delaying for 1 second ? Is that a normal case for grundfos cm3-5pm1 ? Install a bladder tank. That solve the delaying. |
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Oct 7 2014, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Oct 6 2014, 06:29 PM) 2 possible I can think of. The pump have a bladder tank ontop. 2nd, the setting pressure.If you set the cut off higher, the pressure in the pipe is high. So you get a good pressure water flow initial. Once it drop to cut in pressure (which also is high) the pump start to run. |
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Oct 21 2014, 10:12 AM
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Dec 31 2014, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Dec 31 2014, 03:02 AM) Update. I guess it is the check valve problem. Just replace it. Not expensive part.Checked pipings, no leak whatsoever. Called handyman come over to have a look and realize that the return pipe automatic valve gave way already. So the pump keep sucking out water from tangki and pump it but the water flow back to the Tangki after that therefore creating an infinity loop. The handyman went to close the return pipe stop valve and solved the problem. Sifus, any consequences of disabling the return pipe? |
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Dec 31 2014, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(Johannlo @ Dec 31 2014, 02:44 PM) interesting. since the plumber disabled the return pipe from grundfos to tangki cause of faulty NRV, and I do not intend to replace the NRV yet, will I face any potential problems in the future? It is something a bypass pipe for water pump when spoil. The tank pressure will force open the NRV and your bathroom continue to have water. While you can repair or wait for the pump to be repair.what's the use of this return pipe anyway? |
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Mar 3 2016, 01:03 PM
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Aug 10 2016, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Aug 9 2016, 09:54 PM) I heard of dry pump protection. But recently I heard a friend of a friend had a burst pump the other week. And was told that the water system over pressured and she should had let turn it off when no used. Yes. All the pump should have the pressure switch. Which pressure increase to certain level setting will cut off the pump.I find it odd as I understand, pump are automatic turn on and off trigger by pressure diff, is this true? In this case, the pressure switch is spoil and the pump run all the way till the pipe burst. Some pump cannot be run dry. And it have the flow switch. |
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Oct 25 2016, 08:51 PM
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Oct 26 2016, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Oct 26 2016, 09:42 AM) ozak any idea what size is it? I don't remember anymore. i need to take picture, but mine is installed upside down so bit hard. I don't have the inch size allen key too. So I use mm size to poke into it. The allen key slighty bigger size. I knock it in and turn. I have a set of allen key. So just try the 1 best fit. But strange is, the syabas dismantle it away when they repair the broken pipe. Now my piping without that valve anymore. But why going to adjust it? That valve is either open or close. Not adjust for slow or fast flow. This post has been edited by ozak: Oct 26 2016, 09:57 AM |
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