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 Credit Card v15, Ask general questions here, Please read the 1st post before posting

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charymsylyn
post Mar 3 2011, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(bill_clinton @ Mar 3 2011, 12:11 AM)
what if my cc application is approved and received the cc, can i cancel it?
will i b charged the GST?
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You can cancel and you should get charged. Banks that agree not to charge in such cases are just doing you a favour.
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post Mar 4 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Mar 4 2011, 02:29 PM)
You do realised that Amex has the highest exchange rate, right? At the end of the day, the 2.5% does not really help, unless you are spending locally  tongue.gif
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Admin and forex fee for Amex: 2.5%
TP earned equivalent: 2.5%
Weekend cashback: 5%
Net earned: 0% + 5%

Admin and forex fee for Visa/MC: 0.5% to 1%
TP earned equivalent: 0.5%
Weekend cashback: 0%
Net earned: -0.5% to 0%

I hope the above is illustrative enough as to why the MBB 2 Amex is actually not bad for overseas usage too. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 4 2011, 04:58 PM)
Why would Amex (not Maybank card) Forex rate be higher than our local banks?  Can you enlighten me how Amex's conversion rate works? If not mistaken Amex got their own bank in US but not here.
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This is a good question to ask. When people comment that Amex exchange rate is higher than Visa/MC, they usually don't remember that Amex does charge higher admin rate than Visa/MC.

Exchange rate is based on posting date and not transaction date, some forumers might have inadvertently posted comparisons which might not be valid as the posting date is usually not mentioned. CC also uses up to the second forex rates and not a reference daily rate (like banks and money changers uses). This explains why using the same card at the same shop with the same transaction and posting dates will usually result in different rates.


Added on March 4, 2011, 5:26 pm
QUOTE(tgeoklin @ Mar 4 2011, 04:06 PM)
Erh, not sure about your example but the 2.5% admin charge is on top of the forex rate whence compared to other card which effectively negates the 5x points, assumed to be equivalent to 2.5% rebate. Thus, after taking into consideration the higher forex itself, the effective rates would be more unfavourable. Further, this does not even take into account double conversion rate, if the foreign currency is not USD, plus how can we ensure we only spend on weekends? Oh, the RM50 per month cap means 5% cashback only good for upto RM1000 of spending  rclxub.gif
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I've commented above regarding forex rate. I don't yet have an MBB 2 card, but I believe 5% weekend rebate is based on transaction date, right? If so, just make sure your transaction is done on MY time weekends should be good enough.

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post Mar 4 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 4 2011, 05:36 PM)
Maybe my statement is misleading. I am not talking about admin fee but on the forex rate itself i.e. Amex Forex Rate higher than MBB, SCB, HSBC, UOB, ABB, etc? Or these banks rate is based on Visa/MasterCard Forex Rate (where I suppose they would also charge an admin fee) and then the banks charge a 1% on top of the converted amount by Visa/MC. I really don't know how we are actually being charged when a Bank states that there is an Admin Fee of 1%
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I seriously doubt that Amex charges a higher forex rate than Visa/MC and I believe your guess that the % is based on the Amex/Visa/MC rate is the correct scenario. But since it is nearly impossible to tell the forex rate used for CC usage due to the factors I mentioned earlier, one can base their opinion on the benefits given by the card. Thus based on the factors I mentioned earlier, it's not difficult to make a case that MBB 2 Amex isn't as poor for foreign usage as some forumers here claim.
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post Mar 12 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 11 2011, 09:29 AM)
Paypal is free of charge for payment transaction.
but receiving funds from others got fee, depending on the transfer amount. The higher the amount, the higher the fee.

PayPal becomes an alternative to make use of AMEX cc to make payment to merchants that don't accept AMEX directly but PayPal.

For instance,
1.Pay Maxis bills online by using paypal-Maxis. (require the Maxis users themselves to have to use paypal)
2.TGV online booking
3.GSC (booking via IPhone Apps)
etc
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GSC charges RM1 to buy tickets using the GSC app:

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Added on March 12, 2011, 1:49 pm
QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 12 2011, 12:50 AM)
GST for credit cards is implemented by Ministry of Finance and was gazetted in the Constitution. Abolishment will need to be discussed in Dewan Rakyat and it's gonna take some time to finalize.
Don't listen to rumours. Read news, please.
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The CC tax is a government ruling permitted by an Act of Parliament, but you would be hard pressed to find it anywhere in the Malaysian Federal Constitution. notworthy.gif

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post Mar 14 2011, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Mar 14 2011, 09:55 PM)
Did you see the description beside the tier? sweat.gif
It depends on how long you have been making repayment in full.
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To be more accurate, it depends on whether you had at least made minimum payment during the periods mentioned. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 14 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Mar 14 2011, 11:15 PM)
thats why its funny since i also click the FB only
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Getting my MBB 2 cards the same way. Did not get any call or needed to do anything other than enter my details at the page. Am already an existing MBB CC holder, though. Happy that they increased my limit 2nd time this year so now have the same limit as OCBC Ti. Not that I really have a need for it anyway. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 16 2011, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(saw2001 @ Mar 15 2011, 11:47 PM)
Hi,

My mom have 2 cards under her name
-Classic
- Pb Esso Mobil

So the classic will be used by my mom while the esso mobil will be used by me. When my mom collect the card , the service Representative of the branch told us that the credit will be share. So when the statement comes it will come together and there is a TOTAL amount need to be paid.

Example -

My mom uses 2k in her own card, and i use 2k in my own card. So when the statement comes it will be 4k . So i just take rm4k and bank into my card since its the same name and same credit. And when this month statement comes, they charge me late payment to my moms card because she didnt do any payment last month. Is that fair to me? I was not aware and they didnt even mention when it comes to paying i have to pay separately.

Besides this, My moms card out standing is around rm1.3k while mine i use almost 1k but only rm 200 to pay.

Will they be any interest to my moms card? can i appeal or something?
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Your story sounds confused but yes, payment for MY CC's is nearly always based on per-card basis (I'm not aware of any which does not do this). Having the same credit limit makes zero difference in terms of payment.

Your first scenario can be termed a newbie mistake but asking if you should get charged interest if you didn't pay in full is a bit too much... :hmm:


Added on March 16, 2011, 12:52 am
QUOTE(saw2001 @ Mar 16 2011, 12:12 AM)
Going to the bank and ask will be better or just call CS?

My moms credit history is very good, can i take this point to ask for a second chance? if all this fails, what is the worst thing will happen to ?
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Makes no difference, you will not be able to speak to someone who can actually make a decision either way. Worst case scenario is just paying the late fees and interest.

Late payment for CC once or twice per year makes little difference to your credit record. In fact banks would prefer you frequently pay late (but not till the extent the bank needs to come after you for payment).

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post Mar 23 2011, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Mar 23 2011, 10:43 AM)
Any card has TnG features embedded, with zero reload cost and automatically reload?
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None at this time and very unlikely in the future unless TnG Sdn Bhd changes their TnG reload/admin fee structure.


Added on March 23, 2011, 7:32 pm
QUOTE(wshoh @ Mar 23 2011, 11:14 AM)
You are given the benefit of doubt, since the the CIMB Touch ‘n Go Visa was listed in the 1st page under "Tap and Go Cards - no signature required" and not "Touch n Go".
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This card does not meet his requirement of free reloads (AFAIK there is currently no way to reload Zing card FoC).

Is a modification really necessary since TnG qualifies as no signature required?

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post Mar 29 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(andy_lyy @ Mar 29 2011, 11:34 PM)
Celcom I m not sure.

For TM yes. Just DL the form, fill it and fax to TM.

mine RM38=> RM 36, RM2 off = 5 %
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This is incorrect. The current TM Autopay rebate amount is fixed at RM2 (excluding promos or multiple accounts) which happens to be about 5% for you.
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post Mar 31 2011, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 31 2011, 12:25 AM)
OCBC Titanium
MBB2 Amex
MBB2 Visa

Out of the above 3 cards, which is the best card to use to pay for my overseas hotel bill. One that will provide the most cashback or points. Don't care about the FX rate. I'll be paying on Friday.
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OCBC Titanium - 1% rebate (up to max of RM5K spending of non-5% category only)
MBB2 Amex - 2.5+% equivalent unlimited in points + 5% rebate if swipe on MY weekends (up to max of RM50/month)
MBB2 Visa - 1+% equivalent unlimited in points

Decide for yourself.
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post Apr 1 2011, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(zenquix @ Mar 31 2011, 02:36 AM)
Not accurate.. MBB2 Visa is only abt 0.5% equivalent
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You are right, typed too fast. notworthy.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Apr 14 2011, 04:01 PM)
There is one issue about this. Telco congestion. Very often I encounter that SMS is delivered one hour late, sometimes half a day late. The last few times I request TAC from Maybank, it too 30 minutes to arrive and I need to re request another new one as the old one has expired.
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This is not really an issue at all. Even if there is half hour delay, it is still a big improvement compared to the couple days delay for someone who checks their online banking daily (not everyone has online banking or checks daily).
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post Apr 17 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 17 2011, 02:06 PM)
Simply put, if you don't trust the merchant enough, don't give them your credit card details. This applies whether online or physical transaction.

Generally speaking, your odds are better with an online transaction (except for fraudulent sites) than physical. Fraud is more likely to occur especially when card is out of your sight.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ May 7 2011, 08:43 PM)
did anyone own citibank credit card? the interest rate shall be 17.50% annual however for the past few month, i find that the finance charges is not tally to my unclear outstanding amount. seems like they impose 3% monthly. outstanding 500 unclear but finance charges is RM15. omg?
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Credit card issuers usually waive interest charges if the balance is paid in full each month, but typically will charge full interest on the entire outstanding balance from the date of each purchase if the total balance is not paid.

For example, if a user had a $1,000 transaction and repaid it in full within this grace period, there would be no interest charged. If, however, even $1.00 of the total amount remained unpaid, interest would be charged on the $1,000 from the date of purchase until the payment is received. The precise manner in which interest is charged is usually detailed in a cardholder agreement which may be summarized on the back of the monthly statement. The general calculation formula most financial institutions use to determine the amount of interest to be charged is APR/100 x ADB/365 x number of days revolved. Take the annual percentage rate (APR) and divide by 100 then multiply to the amount of the average daily balance (ADB) divided by 365 and then take this total and multiply by the total number of days the amount revolved before payment was made on the account. Financial institutions refer to interest charged back to the original time of the transaction and up to the time a payment was made, if not in full, as RRFC or residual retail finance charge. Thus after an amount has revolved and a payment has been made, the user of the card will still receive interest charges on their statement after paying the next statement in full (in fact the statement may only have a charge for interest that collected up until the date the full balance was paid, i.e. when the balance stopped revolving).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_card#Interest_charges

The exact charging formula is described at the back of your credit card statement. Also note the compounding interest nature of conventional credit cards. The general Malaysian bank practise is to charge interest on unpaid balances up to the last payment date to avoid the residual retail finance charge described above.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ May 10 2011, 08:19 PM)
yameh, why other bank no like this de? my maybank never charge like that because i never settle full ma, like eg. outstanding 1522, i will only pay 1500, but the interest is like less than 50 cents.
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Yes, there is no interest-free period if you have carry forward balance (reworded for clarity) for MY credit cards for some time already, this was introduced along with tiered interest rates.

Note that credit card interest is calculated a bit differently from most kind of loans. For example, using the example in Wikipedia, interest is charged differently if instead of a single RM1000 transaction, you have 2 x RM500 transactions. If you have a carry forward balance of RM1, you will be charged interest on RM1000 for the first scenario but only RM500 for the second.

Given your example scenario, when you repay RM1500 is also a factor in interest calculation.

A possible difference with MY banks is that e.g. if you repay your statement balance in full 2 days after due date, some banks might charge you interest while other banks might not.

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post May 13 2011, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardling @ May 13 2011, 09:48 AM)
is debit card included in CCRIS report or not ? or maybe it is in other BNM report ?
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Debit card is from bank account. Bank accounts are not shown in CCRIS. There is no single database which lists all types of accounts everyone has in all banks in Malaysia. But of course if BNM or LHDN wants such information, it's trivially simple to obtain.

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