Thanks, but too far away. Besides I just got referral letter from normal Doc to see an Orthopedic soon.

From several posts in this forum itself, apparently a few people recommend a visit to the chiropractor for backache, as opposed to the orthopaedic.

My problem wasn't backache.

In med school, we were taught to be professional, and that includes spending reasonable time with patients, explaining to them their problems diagnosed, and treatment protocol to be expected. This is the service that we are supposed to provide. I understand your experience, and if i were you, i would have think twice about coming back to this doctor. Its like paying a high service charge in a posh restaurant, yet not feeling that we're getting for what we're paying

And it seems that in your case of a doctor rushing off when being asked questions, it seems like he's avoiding your questions. To put it bluntly, perhaps he doesn't know your problem, that's why he's trying to escape from answering your questions.

And as for standard chiropractic treatments, the doctors usually would have an estimation of how many times you would need to return for treatment for full recovery, and this number may be as little as 2 visits and as many as 6-8 visits. Then again, everyone's problem is different (severity, chronicity, etc.), and recovery time differs from person to person, so there is no "standard" amount of return visits that should be imposed on everybody. And if you feel a doctor is trying to make money out of you, such as asking you to come back visits after visits, when your problem has significantly reduced/eliminated...you should be weary of him.

The neck cracking and popping you mentioned are known as cervical breaks, and are very different from those practiced by barbers etc. Trained chiropractors are taught to adjust with a specific high speed low amplitude (HVLA) adjustments, and in the context of cervical breaks, a specific area to be adjusted at the contact point only. Research findings have attributed stroke secondary to VBA dissection post adjustment. However, over the period of a few decades, it has been found that only 2 cases of such strokes was the result of a chiropractic cervical manipulation, whereas the astronomically high figure reported are due to other causes, with barber neck cracking being one of the culprits. Google up research articles by David Cassidy and VBA strokes. In essence, other than trained chiropractors adjusting your neck, i wouldn't want anyone else touching my neck!

And Ngto, perhaps you could elaborate a little on your finger and shoulder problem? There is neurologic relation between the cervical nerves innervating the fingers and shoulders (shoulder to a certain extend), and could be the basis of his neck adjustment given to you. Did he test your dermatomes, myotomes, and reflexes (arm and forearm only) on your fingers and shoulders?

I am amazed about how much you know about chiropractic and how much faith you have in it!

Generally speaking, chiropractic is a yet to be legislated profession in Malaysia, unlike countries like the US, Canada, UK, and Australia, where it has been established for many years, and hence have laws to protect the profession. In our country, it is a well known fact that there are people with some knowledge of chinese bone-setting, TCM, and what-not calling themselves chiropractors. In this US, such a practice is a criminal offence chargeable under "...practicing chiropractic without a licence." and is liable to jail sentencing. I urge people seeking chiropractic care in Malaysia to check with the doctor's credentials before seeking his care. You wouldn't want someone taking care of your health when he/she isn't a qualified practitioner. Its akin to seeing a quack medical doctor and taking his prescribed medications when he's not a real doctor!

As for x-rays, not all chiropractors will require your x-rays. It depends on the patient's complains. Chiropractors, like medical doctors, are trained to take full medical history, and upon identifying a problem that seems more serious, an x-ray would be requested. To x-ray almost every little detail thing is to put the patients into unnecessary ionising radiation, which is doing more harm than good. However, there are certain chiropractic techniques, such as Gonstead technique that you've mentioned, that would require more x-ray than other Diversified chiropractic practioners, and this is just due to the nature of the technique that utilizes a lot of x-ray line drawings. An example to accompany what i've just explained is this: If a patient walks into my clinic with chronic and persistent cough for months, and reports backache, i wouldn't even adjust him at all, and would request for an x-ray immediately. In another scenario whereby a person complaining of backache for the past week or so, with his history of working into the late hours of the night, i wouldn't request for an x-ray. The reason to this is because, in the first scenario, i am suspecting that the patient has tuberculosis with Pott's spine, and adjustments to his spine would very likely fracture his bones. In the second scenario, it appears that the patient has a subluxation that needs an adjustment, with muscular spasms being secondary to the subluxations. Then again, these two scenarios are just hypothetical situations.

I tried googling and asked around but I still have no clue why he grab our arms and touch our face like some kungfu. Anybody knows?

I seem to recall in much earlier thread people mentioned he might be using some sort of 'Chi' kind of treatment (or something similar). But whatever it is, didn't work for me.

Also I wish he could first balance his own Chi, and give time and attention to the well-being of his patients and not just concentrate on his own Financial gains

If you had to chance to clarify with him, if he's using some of these "chi" techniques, then...it's unheard of in the field of chiropractic. You never know...he might be a real chiropractor, but integrates some of these non-chiropractic treatment techniques in his practice. In chiropractic, there are some esoteric techniques that are practiced, and some of these might sound and look like "chi" energy. However, many modern day trained chiropractors have abandoned much of these techniques due to poor evidence in scientific research. Generally speaking, standard chiropractic treatments already works very effectively, without the inclusion of these esoteric techniques incorporated.

An exception to the point mentioned above is acupuncture, which is scientifically proven to treat certain problems. Some chiropractors are licenced to practice acupuncture. But i'd recommend any persons receiving acupuncture treatment from a chiropractor to check with his credentials (whether if he is a qualified acupuncturist).

Chiropractic treatment should be treated with extreme caution, as it is not evidence-based like modern medicine. Mistreatment by chiropractors can result in very dangerous consequences.


I would advise anyone thinking of undergoing chiropractic treatment to think twice (or thrice or more) before putting your life at risk. Please read the following articles first:

Don't Let Chiropractors Fool You

Chiropractic's Dirty Secret: Neck Manipulation and Strokes

you may try acupuncture

does a chiropractor need license?

Went to ss2 chiropractic.. Totally not worth it..
5to8 mins, no stretching.. Nothing.. 90 gone lol,
This will be my first and last time going in.. The doctor not friendly too..

I heard my friend went other chiropractic, at least hers got 1 hour treatment.. And is less than 70..
But ss2 that one quite a lot of people went.. Not affective to me only I think.. Being a doctor sure earns a lot :-)

i have been having recurring headaches and sore neck+shoulder areas for a few months now. not only is it irritating, sometimes the pain keeps me up at night... i would say this problem probably stems from my work (sitting in from of the pc for long hours) and bad posture...

just wondering if a chiropractor could help me with my problems or am i better off going to a acupuncturist? anybody here can recommend someone?

highly recommend you to have acupuncture therapy. recover faster than chiropractor.

Anyone has gone for chiro treatment in this clinic before? Any comment?

http://www.mychiro.com.my/?page=chiropractic

My friend suffered from the minor slip disc in her neck and experiencing minor dull pain in her right shoulder. Does Chiro treatment helps? Will it cost it bomb?

any chiro in ampang area can recommend??

http://fox2now.com/2014/07/14/jama-recomme...pain-treatment/

You can try Life chiropractic. There is a new clinician there Dr Wong

I have and i had terrible neck and unberable jaw pain and dizziness. They don't tell you the traction machine they use to pull your neck causes more injury . I still have problems with my neck. Never use them. (was referring to Mychiro)

Actually i am looking for a simple atlas adjustment from NUCCA i think that will help realign my bones, anyone knows good ones in KL/PJ?

This post has been edited by skpeng: Aug 26 2014, 08:33 PM

Mychiro screw up my neck, took me 2 years to recover and never fully back to where i am. Don't mess with your neck unless it is a simple Atlas adjustment. forget the other adjustments. waste of time

I just back from Australia....saw lots of chiropractic clinics over there....they even have the dog chiropractor.

Some of Aus Universities such as RMIT and Latrobe Uni offered the chiropractic degrees.