lol tfmers spamming

to OP: stim, as in stimulant.
and umm, from the other forum thread i have linked, which you have replied and assumingly inspired from, marines do > roaches when they are critical massed compared to roach. your test is pretty much redundant.

also, mere armor would not make much difference on the approximately doubled up (more if stop-micro'd properly etc) DPS of the marines. feel free to try urself anyways if you're skeptical

nice caps

its both a yes and no in this situation, and how you conduct the test. if you want more solid/diverse data, refer to the bnet forum link i have pointed out on the other thread

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Added on April 4, 2011, 4:52 pmdont forget on test methods, and unit counts (more specifically, critical massed vs non critical massed encounters, very applicable to ranged dps, more specifically towards marines/mutalisks)

well the bnet forum thread was basically testing marines vs all sorts of units. while it looks like you're focusing on what counter marines? or just zerg?

having a clear goal would also help in what sorta tests you want to do, as to the test methods etc.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 4 2011, 04:53 PM

>he said go for the banelings

mfw he doesnt realize marines micro'd properly would gg units that counter them. even banelings, and yes even on creeps depending on situation.

no one said anything about hard counter though. and banelings are even mentioned by blizz themselves numerous times to be a counter to units like marines. see how it ended up in the hands of koreans wwwwwww

my point exactly.

marines generally have better because of smaller unit size. of course, unburrowing into their face pointblank does make this point moot

stim speed > roaches unless they have creep. even then its still pretty comparable. and of course, scanner sweeps

i wonder what can blizz do about marines

concaving, not really. and look at the marine tester on the bnet post, even colossi gg to marines. ROFL
AFAIK no siege tank testing yet though

stalker was tested too

from unit tester, what we can see on gsl/pro koreans, yes they are indeed quite OP. however that only apply to a small % of players, and/or applicable only to a atk + move/pre-set critical massed unit tester. that is why you dont see drastic changes/immediate nerfs on marines.

that said, something definitely need to be done, though not too much as the rest of bnet's terran players would take a hit from that. do remember, GSL/korea does not speak for the entire starcraft community. blizzard as a company still prioritizes money, even when they do have to look out for their korean friends/esports (look at bnet 2.0, casuals all day erry day )