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ernie ball
post Apr 4 2012, 09:54 AM

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Had my koup for < 1 month, so these are primary observations.

- FC
- Car still in breaking-in, first re-fueling is RM0.208 / km. Mostly stop-and-go traffic.

- handling
- Nice! Little body roll (compare to altis)

- back passenger seat space enough for a 170cm adult?
- mb need to sit lower a bit, but is not a problem to seat 5 comfortably. Leg space is reasonable, not a lot.

- air cond power ?
- ok gua...

- car reliability, any breakdowns so far?
- can't ans you.

- bumpy ride?
- yes, quite bumpy, the suspension is firm. Compare to saga / myvi la (fail).



ernie ball
post Apr 9 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(cloner @ Apr 6 2012, 09:48 PM)
went to Kia sales n service centre at my area today, but only 1.6 avail for test drive... sob sob

not even 2.0 forte

taikors know where in KV which sales office got koup for test drive ?


Added on April 7, 2012, 6:11 pma question to all dai gors here where did u buy ur koup from? where did u test drive? what is the package offered? did u get cash rebate or freebies? do pm me if cant post here I'm very close to buying 1.
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Think you need to go find third party sellers (not naza kia, they don't offer test drive last time, damn lansi). I buy from third party, rebate RM2k, 2 years ( 30 months) free maintenance for 2011 stock. Don't bother about 2012 stock, they will only probably finish selling the 2011 stock by 2020. No one wants to buy this car lol. I'm not from KV so can't help you locate dealers =)
Btw, my observations is from last time when i buy.. early this year.

QUOTE(figure8 @ Apr 8 2012, 07:37 PM)
guys. what color available currently?. is there any variant in dashboard/interior?. i see sporty interior with red/black compilation which is not to my liking. is there any normal black/grey dashboard?

i'm leaning to get this car instead of elantra which i hear a lot of negative review especially in handling. wait 1 year for that car n then not as i expected... so i'm planning to get forte koup for replacement.

btw, how this car compare to altis?
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Body colour white, black, red, get 2-tone fugly interior. Body colour blue, orange, get 1-tone "normal" interior. Go get a sales brochure. (IIRC)
I test drove an altis 1.8G and koup before making decision to buy a Koup, so I can comment you on this.

1) Handling: Altis suspension is quite firm ( ahpek car category, but suspension is less firm than koup) , lots of body roll (probably firm suspension to compensate for body roll) .
Koup suspension is lagi firm, kinda uncomfortable if you're fetching your mum when you go over anything on the road. ( ear uncomfortable, not butt)

2) Interior: Altis steering feels like a toy. the wood part don't join with plastic part properly. Dashboard feels kinda empty, stock audio is about as good as Myvi. Comes with 2 airbags. Inside "feels" somewhat more cramped compare to Koup. Personal feeling only, don't shoot me an excel sheet explaining the interior space.
Koup interior feels more welcoming. A steering that actually feels better, audio is excellent, you can save a lot, no need to install amp + woofer + change HU. ( non-DVD version la, heard new stock forte comes with DVD, but personally i hate touch screen players, too glaring at nite, and ugly interface when play audio ) Rear leg space is surprisingly adequate ( not limo adequate, but enough for an average 170cm guy to sit comfortably with room to spare ). Comes with 6 airbags, don't know Altis or Koup airbag more comfortable, never tested any yet.

3) Transmission... I prefer conventional auto compare to CVT. Altis have CVT, Koup have torque converter auto. With CVT you can't feel the "rush".

4) Engine: I heard Altis is extremely frugal, I know Koup drink fuel like no tomorrow. For Koup, Town driving FC is terrible, but on the highway, you can get 6-8L / 100km, which is like <RM0.15 / km? Power wise... think don't need to say.

6) Chick factor: Some chicks prefer Altis, chicks not worth marrying likes Koup. So if one night stand is your thing, then buy a Koup. Or a Scirocco, if you can afford.
Seriously though, chicks around me likes my Koup, but can't imagine they need to pull the seat back to put the babies we'll be producing onto the rear seat. Oh well..



Bottom line: I can probably summarize Koup vs Altis in this way: If you're looking for a (probably) reliable car to travel from A to B, RM50 fuel to get you a million miles, get an Altis. Else, get a Koup. You'll feel the urge to burn extra fuel in it. I'm serious.

... and you'll be burning a lot of fuel for the FC you'll be getting =D

ernie ball
post Apr 9 2012, 10:34 PM

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Hi, anyone know if forte grill will fit into Koup? I am planning to change the grille to roadruns grille, but the dealer don't know if it fits..
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post Apr 11 2012, 11:25 PM

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Sigh... if grille won't fit.. zz...

Where can get koup modded grille... =S
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post Apr 12 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Apr 12 2012, 09:39 AM)
This car was on my list of cars to consider for by year end. But, I test drove it at the KIA test drive centre in Bangsar yesterday and I was disappointed. Perhaps my opinions below can help give some insight to potential buyers.

I'm 180cm tall and my hair was touching the roof, felt extremely claustrophobic. Interior is acceptable, looks and feels pretty good for its price. Although materials used are plastics, they don't feel as cheap as say, the interior of a Fiesta?

The biggest let down for me has to be the engine, it is too noisy, and underpowered. I currently drive a 1995 Honda Civic 1600cc, non VTEC. What was going through my head was "how can this be a 2.0 engine?". It is because the torque is simply not there at all when I floor it, not to mention there was also a very noticeable lag when I floor the pedal. All noise and no pull. I do not mean to insult but the old generation 1.8 Altis had more torque. Perhaps it has a better mid range torque but the test drive route didn't give me a chance to go above 60km/h.

The ride is rather harsh but that is because it is a sport coupe after all. As for the handling and cornering, no chance to test it out for higher speed cornering due to the test drive route.

My conclusion for this car after one test drive is that it looks great, it really does, but it doesn't feel great and it unfortunately doesn't drive great too. I do plan to go for another test drive at another KIA showroom before I strike this off my list.

Hope I do not offend any owners here as these are my honest views!
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Hmm strange, my complaint about the car is the engine / exhaust is too quiet for a coupe... =/
I even think about modifying the exhaust for some time, but in the end decide not to ruin the car..

Underpowered? Compare to Altis? =/ so weird. I tested both cars before buy, and i found the exact opposite.. altis will downshift to >3500 rpm and the engine strains terribly when i slightly press the pedal :S

And how can you conclude a car is underpowered when you can only go to 60kph? The 1st gear alone takes you to 50kph iinm.... done in a test car last time, i'll never do that to my own car tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Apr 12 2012, 09:55 PM)
That is the problem with the test drive route really. But when I say underpowered, I do emphasize more on the torque during lower speeds. Perhaps it's the gear ratios' problem so it could have a better pull at higher speeds(higher gears)?

Anyhow, those were just my views after one test drive, so it may be rather unfair. I need to test this car up to speeds of 100+ km/h before concluding anything =/
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2100rpm at 110kph.... sweet car for cruising away your weekend =)

 

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