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Apr 12 2011, 10:14 PM
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Apr 13 2011, 08:03 AM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Apr 12 2011, 10:14 PM) Cyloh, nice meeting you just now! I agree that the gripper shape you have is weird.. I dont like it, my pinkie hurt (I have a weak pinkie). Seeing how you grip the CoC #2 (which is same as my level), I think maybe either you need to work on your last gap grip strength for closing (because you have early grip power same as me) or you have a same case like Mark Felix. Nice meeting you too!Some person just cant close the last gap which is why I saw how you grip CoC #2, you actually have a good grip... but then again, try to do parallel set as the youtube video way above (same as how I demonstrated to you just now also). I really think that with proper technique, you have greater change closing the gripper you have... I know it feel weird, but once you found your "sweet spot", you will experience improvement in gripping power, and you'll like it. Anyway, nice meeting you! Mark Felix closed the #3 a week later from that video by repositioning the gripper. As for me, the weird gripper that you tested, I manage to close it fully, from no set to full close. Unfortunately I have to back down to 20kg for testing. I think it wont take me long to have 40kg under my belt, and soon the #1 and #1.5. I start by trying to have a firm grip with my middle finger and fourth finger on the gripper. These two finger starts the crush. When about to reach parallel, the pointer finger comes in as support and my pinkie now hooks the gripper too. To full close the final 1cm, its just depends how strong I am with my fourth and pinkie finger only. With that said, it is still a retarded gripper lol, so I won't know for sure how it will be when I get the #1 and #1.5. |
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Apr 13 2011, 09:05 AM
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Apr 13 2011, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Apr 13 2011, 09:05 AM) OK since Mark Felix solve his problem, I think eventually you will manage to fully close your gripper too. Please let me know once you get your CoC gripper... I want to test out CoC #1.5 After surveying around I decided to get something else, not as original(or hardcore) as CoCs but has its own merits.![]() This thing is only RM200 all in. Have to import in. On to technique, I have some ideas(brainfart). Tonight will go home try. A twist/curl of the wrist might aid in fully closing harder resistance. |
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Apr 13 2011, 08:55 PM
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Apr 15 2011, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ Apr 13 2011, 08:55 PM) cyloh, go for it! Up until now I've read comments that people who dont like the gripper because they dont like the handle. I've seen people taping the handle in youtube video too. Yeap confirm buy. But will take roughly a month to arrive. I think at that time you will be beyond #1 and conquering #2 ![]() Even my CoC gripper, one of my friend complain about the metal knurling too hard on the skin. Everyone have different oppinion... Anyway, it looks like Ivanko ratings can go adjusted from 45lb all the way to 345.11lb! CoC #3.5 is only 322.5 lb. I understand that the rating standard for both may not be the same, but even if consider the delta in calculation, Ivanko gripper serve as a perfect tool for continuous progress! http://www.ivanko.com/Ivanko-Super-Gripper-Info.html I'm happy too because if you confirm buy, we can meet up again and again and again and I can try this gripper too... Anyway, today I tried for the first time weighted towel commando chin up (two hand), I used <50% of my 1RM normal weighted chin up at 15kg (42% 1RM) ~5rep, and it works my grip pretty bad... I also did tried 5rep towel grip RDL at 60kg (>60% 1RM) before that for comparison. I think even though the ratio I used for towel chin up is below RDL ratio, towel chin up work my grip more. Thinking of it again, it make real sense, my grip has to carry more weights by virtue of having me hanging, so my grip is being worked out at a greater weight (full bodyweight 52kg + weight of 15kg = 67kg vs deadlift weight of 60kg). Now it make sense... I think! I'd probably buy those badminton grip wrap to wrap around the handle like in the picture. |
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Apr 22 2011, 10:47 PM
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May 18 2011, 04:43 PM
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May 18 2011, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ May 18 2011, 04:43 PM) Good news! I have broken my PR for deadlift... now my 1RM is 100kg at BW 52kg (1.66m height)! My max previously was only 97.5kg but it was very choppy, I lifted it and during descend already lost my grip, like a freefall, lol. It was not under controlled and not to my liking at all! Yeah its in Msia. Just that I don't have time anytime soon to go pick it up. Will contact you once I have it in hand.Today, it was under control, I already started to lose my grip, but I can manage to grip the bar even more (I'm surprised myself, ahaks) and make it firm. It was under controlled. I have consistently doing towel RDL at 75kg. So I dont really train my back with high weight deadlift all this while... but still, once I have the grip, I just ramp up to high weight to my target PR and it just happen. I always know my back can sustain more... just that my grip is the limiting factor. Verdict: Hook grip, pronated grip, raw... new PR 100kg rclxm9.gif . This plateau has been for quite a while (months)...!!! This will motivate me moving forward and upon reaching my next new plateau in future... I'm now looking into 100kg++ region... I'm so excited. It is like a barrier. Wow, still excited... haha. As for my CoC #1... my right hand is getting stronger. My left hand is catching up now, still cannot crush it even using parallel set... 1~2cm to go... big improvement already on my left hand. This is just an example of how grip training will carry forward to your other lift. Hope you guys become more interested in grip training... Cyloh, did you manage to get your Ivanko gripper already? Grip training lately is a hit and miss for me. Some days I breeze through crushing 40kg like nothing. Certain days it felt like my grip/wrist is too lazy to even want to crush 10kg |
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May 18 2011, 08:18 PM
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May 22 2011, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(hoxy @ May 18 2011, 08:18 PM) Well, I know you... last time you cant even fully close those 40kg gripper. Now you can, so congratulations! It take me quite a while to close CoC #1 for second time (even after rest for so long time). Sometime after crushing the gripper 1 time for the day, I just rest and found that even the other day... I cant close it, my forearm are so worked up I have to abandon anything that involve hand (chin up, deadlift, etc2). It is an on-off thing for me.... Obviously, now I have improved... Take your time... the gripper is not going anywhere... Congratulation again on your success. Aha, not much time and energy spared for grip training since I'm occupied training my push/pull ups to acceptable levels.Cant wait to get my hand on the Ivanko gripper. Looks like I'm more excited than the owner... haha. I hope you stay motivated, you just spend your money buying quite an expensive gripper. Well if you are not interested, let sell to me half the price... deal? Every so slightly the pull ups help with my grip strength too. Going very slow with the grip strength progression. |
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