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post Mar 26 2011, 11:26 PM, updated 15y ago

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My friend encourage me to open kopitiam with those hawkers food stall. I'm still planning on it to setup it like just sell drinks and rent out the stalls and another option is selling drink and own all the stall with hire people to cook. Thinking to invest for rm200k. If here got anyone running on this business will appreciate if you can give some opinion.
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:48 PM

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Thanks for reply. Still in planning and venue also haven't decided. Wanna collect the opinion from those are running this business and experience people like you. In my plan I will run the business in morning till afternoon not for nite shift. Will really plan for something really can earn for short time like those really famous chicken rice shop or pan mee shop they can finish by noon no need to open till nite unless your food really sucks. May be I will operate for few stall that I really confident that I can cook. The rest will rent out but with the term and condition the food must have some quality for me to attract for customer to the shop.
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post Mar 27 2011, 08:01 PM

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bro since you are so experience of doing this business may be we can be partner. My doubt here still are the capital is it enough to run the business with rm200k included reno and new setup with equipments. I think I will more selective if wanna rent out the stall. If not same vision as mine I rather not rent it out as my vision not just to open a normal kopitiam. I would like to open like franchise with lot of branches. If our vision is same why not we be partner.


Added on March 27, 2011, 8:13 pmI got 1 vision is open kopitiam to make more income then rather working as employee. If anybody have the same vision I don't see why not we be partner as long you can contribute and help to make profit to the business. I believe success not depend to 1 person only. Is like "Water Margin" all the warriors came from different place and different background but they have a same vision to upright justice thing for the people bully by the bad people.

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post Mar 28 2011, 08:58 AM

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Sound like you are moving to retire. I don't mind to rent out the free stall for you if your food stall can attract customer to my shop. I will more concern on the drink as the major business for the kopitiam. Cameron may be too far and out of my plan. What kind of food you run before or can cook may be I willing to pay if you can teach? I'm frankly speaking not familiar with this business and currently working in computer line.
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post Mar 28 2011, 10:34 AM

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Bro sound like you quite familiar what make you said not enough for rm200k to setup a kopitiam. Than how much do you think is enough?
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:14 PM

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I'm more prefer to setup new rather than take over from someone. I prefer more system and modern style not really like ah pak (uncle) those days just open and people come to eat without care about hygiene, shop environment and etc. I more like to have good environment, affordable price food, quality food, and good environment people will few comfortable when they come dine-in. Not like some shop go inside very crowded and surrounded by the stalls and feel very hot. I will like to have and alternative second floor where people can eat and few more comfortable with air-con. This is my plan and my view.
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post Mar 29 2011, 09:10 AM

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I will operate like typical kopitiam but with more systematic and modern management. Please sharing your experience in operating such typical kopitiam as I got none experience.
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post Mar 30 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 28 2011, 01:00 PM)
Let me know if you are interested in learning but I must warn you though, cooking is an art first and vocation second. Just like art, if you are you are and if you are not you are not! I can prepare the same ingredients and condiments and show you step by step and yet yours and mine will definately differ. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I'm seriously interested in learning and I can cook a bit. Please PM me with the course fee and venue as I don't have place to cook. Please let know when are the convenient time to start. Good for me to learn before really going to open the kopitiam. I'n not so worry about the licensing as I got runner to do it. The main concern are more on the food preparation if I wanna to fully operate by my own.
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post Mar 31 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 30 2011, 11:03 PM)
you dont have to have a state of the art facilities to learn how to cook, I am learning how to cook as well, since I stay in rented place and there is no kitchen facilities here(eat out everyday), so I bough a gas tong, a stove, few cooking equipments and thats it, I dont even have a fridge. and still these are some of the foods that I manage to cook.


there are still many more (30++) dishes that I manage to learn how to cook with simple equipments.
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Hey, bro don't waste your talent of cooking 30+ dishes may open mixed rice stall oledi. Are you interested to open up your own stall?
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post Mar 31 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Mar 31 2011, 12:02 PM)
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Do you know that even blanching noodle needs skill? It seems easy right, just take mee or beehon or kway teow, blanch it. Most hawker actually does it wrong but it does makes a difference if done correctly. This is why you see in some stalls, when the mother is blanching, it tasted differently when her son is blanching. This is especially true in wanton noodle but it does happened in other noodles. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Agree as what you said cause my mum make the Wonton noodle tasty than what I made at home.


Everyone are welcome to share your experience don't look down your own. Doesn't mean we must have experience wok in big big restaurant only can cook nice food. Small cook at home also can cook nice food. I believe more people can share here, we can gather and open our own kopitiam with successful result and long run in future not just limit to 1 shop it may be grow like mushroom this is what I wish and look for same idea people as me.



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post Mar 31 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 31 2011, 05:26 PM)
I use to work as cashier in a chinese take away shop while i was working in england...the chef cook our meal but for supper we cook ourself, so I got the chance to use the cannon stove..."wooofff wooooofff!!!!" the fire sound alone makes me scared..but after seeing the chef cook for few month...i know a little bit of dai chow skill also biggrin.gif

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Talent in cook la don't waste it can earn penny if you really got plan. May be we can be partner who know.
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post Apr 1 2011, 08:49 AM

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rclxms.gif Now like discussing skill before start up business. Interesting how I hope we can show it now like those days in the street lot of people surrounding in circle watching street kung fu acrobatic. flex.gif
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post Apr 1 2011, 02:07 PM

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I think you oledi calculated the amount rite and how come to KL to make big buck rather than at east coast. We can sit down and plan, more people can do big business. Just my 2 cent view. laugh.gif
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post Apr 1 2011, 10:01 PM

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More sharing are welcome.

Which do you think to be the priority in sequences?

1. Capital

2. Location for business

3. Cooking skill

4. Experience


5. None of above like me rclxms.gif


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post Apr 4 2011, 09:19 AM

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Bank is smart if you got nothing to give them like mortgage your house or car they will definitely wouldn't approve loan for you. I had try to apply loan to setup business long time ago but unsuccessful. I believe if you got a wish they is a way. Me also know nothing about cook and got limited capital but still wish that can open a kopitiam cause so far this the business I can foresee still can make money and demanding. A lot of things still need to be concern like the foods whether people will like it or not, location or people who you are targeting come to eat, capital, etc. I still believe the capital will be the last option for me cause if you know how to cook a nice food no matter how bad your stall or shop or how far the place is people will still can find and eat. May be we need to gather those are really interested to setup a kopitiam to brainstorm exchange some idea and lastly we can open up a perfectly kopitiam with sharing capital. The only main concern here is the trust.
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post Apr 6 2011, 10:19 AM

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We are sharing more on Old style kopitiam with some normal reno not that modern. Got some hawkers stall selling food type. Anyone here would like to share about making the coffee? May need to look for some sifu know how to make good coffee if setup the business.

 

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