Hi there,

Would like to ask if anyone here surrently using their iPad with gps profs like tomtom or Papago? I read from the web that this can be done, some say cannot... Got problem detecting iPad gps chip.. Yada yada yada.....

Currently i don't have tomtom or Papago for iPad. Is it worth trying ? Very keen on having a 9.7 inch gps iPad so that navigation is very very easy to c while driving..

Believe me if you cant mount it while driving it is not easy and very dangerous

It's not meant to be used fir this purpose. Just get a garmin or Tom Tom, they are very cheap now.

im using it and mount on my dashboard. for me i like it because its a big GPS and batt life seems good.
Im using Papago 8.1 and its very fast lock the satellite.

Thanks for the info guys, even though the screen is big and troublesome, it's a good contingency gps system... Will try soon.

hi, it can be done, i had tomtom with my ipad. just download and install. normal procedure.

I know that ipad is using aGPS. How accurate can it be through the cell tower triangulation? 10 metres radius?

I have Papago, it works very well. Locks on even faster than my Garmin!

I've tried Papago on iPad 3G, it works well. Very accurate.

This post has been edited by crash_override: Apr 21 2011, 06:42 PM

some times it feels like 20meter accuracy

how to get papago onto ipad?how much?

using cap palang garmin RM299 only

not cheap weii..

wondering did u backup a copy if one day ur pc con.

i kena once. luckily itunes still allow me re-download free.

unless the software is no longer on iTunes.

gps work on the plane meh?

i mean why on earth u still gps on the plane. the pilot is not u ler.

I also want...

lost in the temptation of iPad2.

ok. can't wait the news... arrrrgggggggggghhhhhhh apple pls annouce.

one question can GPS works without activate 3G ?

Good question. I want to know too.


Anyway no sim card insert GPS can work?
If not, it's mean GPS positioning using our 3g data plan?

I use it when I was at sabah and on way to Kinabalu park and to the my hotel and it working fine .....
another experience is going to mid valley and pj digital mall

strongly suggest to put in sim card not airplane mode !!!

Thanks for your suggest.

GPS works without activating 3G but locking with satellite will be slower and you need to be in open and stationary to get the initial lock. It will be almost instant when 3G activated.

The other thing most ppl dont know is that GPS actually works even on the wifi-only version of iPad if you use iPhone 4 Personal Hotspot feature. Its not using the old cell tower triangulation method but actually sharing and utilizing the actual GPS chip from iPhone itself. You can try doing the GPS tracking while driving using the wifi-only iPad after tethered with iPhone. Only works with iPhone 4 though. That's the reason I bought the wifi-only iPad

This post has been edited by sunyen: Apr 30 2011, 05:40 PM

Untrue if you are using the 3G version because the iPad will first use the GPS chip, just the locking is slower. I tested this while in Paris last week where I turn off cellular entirely but still manage to track using Map2go

This post has been edited by sunyen: Apr 30 2011, 05:45 PM

Can you do this experiment:

turn off wifi and turn off 3g.

WIthout both data, it'll not have data location from wifi or 3g.

Now, try to track using gps offline map.

DOn't use google map la. Coz u no data mah.

i'm not tech savvy, it is my best guess Ipad 2 intergrated 3G cellular radio and GPS satelite radio in one chipset. So if disable the 3G means also diabling the satelite radio. which left only A-GPS where can be access by WIFI

try taking out your SIM and turn off WIFI, download an offline map app like Maps2Go, leave it stationary with open clear sky outdoor for minutes (sometimes up to 15min!), you will see no halo but a blue point

the cellular radio is on or off?

cellular is off because no more sim

when you turn off cellular, GPS is still active eventhough it is built in the same chip because of separate circuit.

but do note the iPad's gps is practically useless when you turn off cellular because of the long 15min cold initial lock.

you can read more about this here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/11982...sageID=11982527

thanks for ur kind explanation. Tat means without sim card, the radio signal receive chipset still can operate and it receive the satelite signal only. And u mention it take 15 min for initial is really a long duration even without AGPS
Seems like Ipad 2 did not using a good GPS chipset...

sifu,

based on your information, does an ipad1 without 3g can only use GPS with wifi connection on iphone4 hotspot??
mean i cant use GPS with the ipad1(wifi version only)??

simply download... how about map??? include??

We all know the fact that iPad comes in 2 flavors which is:
1- Wifi only (do not have GPS chip)
2- Wifi + 3G (have GPS chip in 3G module in separate circuit)


So, my question is how often do you use GPS with your iPad? Is it on par with standalone GPS unit or so-so?

Nope. Its too big so it blocks my view & hard to attach to a holder. Besides I don't want to drop my iPad2. I use my iPhone for navigation and it works without any problem.

Well not worthed it as you need to invest in a GPS app which cost a lot also..

Most ppl don't care about the GPS I guess? 3G connection is still the main point..

Not really cost a lot. I just bought SyGic for USD14.99 and its works on both iPhone4 and iPad.

I do care about GPS because I can walk around Hong Kong discussing where we should head to
with my wife looking at 10" screen instead of tiny 3.5" iPhone 4.

wah walk also use gps? respecT @@

I only use GPS when I need to go somewhere I've never been - and that's usually when someone's sitting next to me so I don't have to attach the ipad.

Very different from those ppl who seem to keep their gps turned on even when just going home from office

aiya, coz lost in Hong KOng mah...lol...

hehe I use google map when lost when walking too, it's more like GPS for street. Those GPS for car etc. can't really see wide area and no real satellite view which is useful to identify landmark

In that case I did the right thing buying wifi only version

Not really. You made the wrong decision. Majority normally is right. 3G version sold out fast.

RM400 for GPS and 3G is worth it brah.

Hi, actually iPhone3GS *does* have Personal Hotspot too, but only Bluetooth and cable mode. So, you can try to tether the iPad to iPhone 3GS with Bluetooth connection. I am able to do Personal Hotspot this way, but cannot confirm if iPhone 3GS will share GPS location to iPad as mine is the 3G version.

Hope that helps

dayum, ipad 2 GPS is very accurate, im using 3g

WOW! Thanks for sharing I DID NOT know that! Another reason to be happy with my wifi-only ipad married with iphone 4.

does anybody happened to stumble upon this device in malaysia?

http://bad-elf.com/products/gps/

Nah, still felt like I did the right decision.
1- iPad was bought as a present to my wife not that she will bring it everywhere.
2- Already got garmin 3790v
3- Already got Android

What i know is only IPAD with 3G only able to use the aGPS service since you need data plan to locate your location. Only use it in malaysia unless you are rich to pay for roaming data plan in oversea with 3G. Another way i think if you have WIFi then you can be located via WIFI service. But that will be problem when you walk away from one AP to another AP that isnt belongs to the same SSID.

This post has been edited by tailesley: May 4 2011, 11:45 AM

I use Papago hd and work flawlessly wherever I go.
The gps in iPad stronger than any other gps device i've tried !
No gps device or even iPhone work in my v-kool installed car but iPad does work !

Bro, can you confirm the Papago HD is design for the HD resolution. Not upscale from the iPhone version.

I understand Papago supports Malfreemaps. Is that easy to update map from Malfreemaps?

Hd and full screen support no upscale !
I have both iPhone version and iPad version in my iPad.
Nice and neat view too .......
You get update once you access to apps store if there is update available.

Thx Bro.

Can you copy and paste the map from malfreemaps into Ipad? I mean not thru Papago software update.

Apple listed the ipad as Assisted GPS. Does this Ipad really have a built in Satelite GPS receiver? I don't think so, much like 3GS or iphone4 it does not.

Hello, GPS apps like tomtom and papago have the full maps downloaded into the iPad, so there is no need for internet / data connection when using it on the road (different from google maps).

You are also partially right; only the wifi+3G version has GPS chip (the wifi only version does not have this chip).

If you have a downloaded map app like tom tom or papago in your wifi+3g ipad, will you still get a satellite lock even when you do not have the 3g switched on (ie no sim card inserted)?

This post has been edited by cksia: May 14 2011, 11:39 PM

anyone tried this sygic gps?it covers the SEA.on sale,previously around 50usd,now 12usd.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sygic-south...d319359565?mt=8

Even if there is no sim card inserted? If no sim card inserted how to do triangulation to determine location?
I tried doing the same thing on my iphone 3gs by going into airplane mode (same as having no sim card right?), cannot get satellite to lock in la..

i am planning to buy gps apps..any recommendation what's the best gps apps for malaysia and singapore maps?

oh yeah it does!!!!
Hahahahaha...thanks dude..i m certainly going for a wifi+3g version ipad 2 now

just in case someone missed out on my question.anyone tried it before?

great price. I bought this at USD14.99.

I try it and it works great.

really?maybe i should get this one.thanks.

sygic or papago..which is good for the malaysia maps?
i dont mean only good for KL but works perfectly entire malaysia..

yes, USD12.99 is very very good price

sygic the best currently

so how is the resolution?the enlarged-iphone-to-ipad resolution that we have to click the 2x or it is actually big that covers the whole ipad screen?

sorry, I haven't try it on iPad 2. Though I will get it this Wednesday (apple store delivery)

it covers 79% of the road in Malaysia based on this http://www.sygic.com/en/iphone:maps so maybe that is good enough?

should i go for SE maps or MY&SG maps?

same price,might as well get the SEA map.

if i get the SEA map is it affecting the MY map like incomplete map?

so MY maps is great rather than SEA maps?

i'm using Papago for iPhone. map from Malfreemaps. more customize to m'sia & s'pore with lots of POI and updated roads. i'm a food lover, so POI is very important to me.

not sure if Sygic's map/POI as comprehensive as Papago. hope to see more comments from Sygic user.

no doubt that price-wise Sygic is cheaper now (USD12.99) vs Papago (USD29.99). if Papago drops their price to the same, will sapu straight away

papago is not retina display. It cannot be used with ipon4/ipad display

got papago HD.

http://itunes.apple.com/my/app/papago-sing...d396059845?mt=8

wah, have to buy it separately. Sygic just need to buy once.

IPad 2 wifi version support GPS function?

This post has been edited by jiant: May 15 2011, 04:39 PM

no, unless teether with iphone4

any other different except GPS for both WIFI and 3G+WIFI version?

nope, besides 1 can put in sim card

I tehter with my xm5800 so easy... No need to add rm400 for 3g version

woah can tether with nokia phone?

Just installed Sygic (SG & MY). Here is my short review. In summary, reasonably good Nav system on iPad. If you need details MY map and POI, look for Papago HD that support Malfreemap.

Still figure how to put my iPad on the car dash

(+)
cheaper than Papago HD SG & MY (USD29.99)
nice GUI
great resolution on iPad, no pixelated. love the big screen
fast GPS locking
Nav mode: fast routing
Nav mode: reasonably fast rerouting (approx 4-5s)
Nav mode: turn on map very fast (<1s). my Papago on iPhone takes about 2s.
Nav mode: clear Nav turn by turn voice


(-)
cannot support Malfreemap now
POI is less superior than Papago's Malfreemap. Not that bad actually.
few of my taman roads not in the map. Malfreemap rules.
POI icons cannot display info when touch on it. (on Sygic website, next software Rev should include this feature)
no junction view

This post has been edited by gocitygo: May 17 2011, 10:39 AM

its cheap as backup map.

If Papago HD drop price, can buy again.

And u can use Sygic to iPhone. Awesome.

can i use gps on ipad wifi? i seriously dont want to pay for 3g version just to have gps nav

No

mean i have to get the 3g version, oh well...

another way is to buy bluetooth gps module and connect to the iPad via bluetooth connection.

it should be cheaper a bit

i done that on my iPhone 2G.

Marfan

agree... whats the point if it's just cheaper abit?

aiya. give him another option lo.

Wifi version got gps ? ...

papago is recommended on ipad

can anyone show your iPad's GPS on your car dash? do you use any car kit?

i set my forum to show 40 post per page

and in my this page, before you already got 2 person ask the same question and both of the time it was answer

not this time though

Why? I thought sygic is the best..