That's what I tot. To reduce till so low, just ask them piss off. even championship player already cost as much

Both were seen as kinda luxury players which are not required to defend. Cant see him has a Red future

Aqua & Lucas play in totally different position. To say Aqua is threatening Meireles/Gerrard position is more apt.
See why Kenny wanna brought in Adam even he's a CM by trade? Its to bring in more creativity to the side. Frankly cant see both Aqua & Adam in the same team, reckon it'll be one or the other.
About youngsters, the ones I can see playing in the same position as Aqua are Suso or Coady, which both of them are not even 18, which means plenty of time for them to blend in without rushing their growth.

Adam as left wing? Left MF yes, but not left wing. Even he's playing left, doubt its long term measure since we need traditional wing to stretch play as Adam also runs like a tank
Just because he have a sweet left foot doesn't mean he'll be in wing. As well known, his strength is his distribution, not only crosses, he can ping the ball 40 yards ala Alonso, so u put him in wing position is akin to putting Alonso in RM/RW position.
Its well known Kenny is looking at him as Alonso type player, as his distribution is crucial in the centre. How do Kenny wanna integrate him in centre? not really sure since we seems to well stock in the centre though none of them have his distribution prowess.

El Zhar is on loan at a French club IIRC. but all in dont think the players stated have any future at the club.
Good thing there's already some action started which is only good for the club. Hope the wont have to wait the holy grail for too long

are u sure Tevez32 is a Citeh fan? Me tot he's Man U ....or both

What for???Its not like CBP is someone important enough to score points off him. For me its more like the TS joining in due to numerous spats that came in his way even here in this thread. Whatever goes ard comes ard, no.

Still remembered there's a MUST member that post here in arrogant manner & calling all Reds roaches & expect no retaliation

Seems like Fabs kinda like Torres which when chips are down, keep their head down as well instead of rallying the troops. No offense to Gunners but there seems to lack a real leader ala Vieira, Petit etc at the moment.
As for Lucas or Reina, me always prefer outfield, esp midfield players to be captain for they can see & dictate the play better. For me after Stevie & Carra, it should be Kuyt to be next inline. But hoping in future it can be inherited by one of the Academy boys

Agger injury record will defo count against him, just like Redknapp. Towards the end of his career, he captain the club only in name with Hyypia & Fowler carrying the mantle. Though a fit Agger will be a good candidate.

No... when Gerrard comes back, corners, freekicks & penos will defo be taken by him as demanded by him.
Collectively, Lucas, Spearing, Meireles + Adam definitely better than Gerrard. It's really time to look at future formation without him. Of cos for now its better with him in the side, though I prefer him out wide since no more vacancy in the middle, as u said his crosses are much better than most, so utilise it for Carroll to head in.
But I'd disagree in selling him. Just put him out wide & as CM if & when is necessary, at the same time put Coady under his wing to learn a trick or two or three
I'm having reservation abt Adam though, his distribution is good but he seemed easy to crowd out as well hence nullifying his threat.

But to spend 2mil on a backup will most definitely stunted the growth & limiting chances for Robinson or Wilson. From what I see he doesnt offer much difference to both the youngsters.

Hence he should be backup. Else how to expose him to high level matches when we're buying a 1st team LB & with Warnock as backup.
I did not see Robinson as future international, its not even in the equation on this debate.
Point is to get Warnock in will limit the exposure of them. To see Robinson have the consistency, the club must have a platform for him to express the consistency, by bringing in Warnock as backup it severely hindering their progress.
Furthermore we all know how little backup fare in matches, by putting in Warnock in front of them, they'll see no action for years.

Considering that there'll be a first choice LB that'll be bought & we're talking abt backup plan here, Warnock in for you might be a good plan.
As for my point of view, even if its 2mil (exclusive signing on fees & salary) but you already have decent back ups which cost nothing, why bother spending? Johnson, Carra or even Agger can operate there if there's emergency that required exp personnel to defend only.

yeah, thats exactly my point of view. No point spending when already have decent or similar player.
We definitely need a class LB not backup, unless that LB is as injury prone as Aurelio which I doubt since Commolli nowadays using all sorts of stats.

I'm sure both of them will be shipped out sooner rather than later. Kenny doesnt even consider calling back Insua when there's emergency, preferring to call up Robinson, even if Insua not playing much at Galatasaray.

Forgotten about loan part though. Read somewhere that Robinson is hot prospects which was fast track to Melwood. Maybe loan to fellow BPL team will do him good like Wilshire & Sturridge. Or maybe Kenny has other plan for this generation

Heard Pacheco is doing well in Norwich now, seems good as he kinda stagnant when languishing in reserves.

This post has been edited by vreis: Apr 28 2011, 03:32 PM

Think its him, demanding to play in first team or rather questioning his exclusion in first team

thats their prize assets. But just swap with Milos Krasic, since we lack winger & he's good during the first half of the year. Other than that the whole squad is almost past their sell by date

Actually he did make up his mind to stay with the Old Lady, the hold up is the actual fees to be agreed.
But being Italian or not, since he has a contract, he dont have a choice but to come back when the loan expired.
IF he does come back, bet he'll need new no since Meireles already stated that he adored Liv no 4 because of Hyypia.

oh wait, rushmode u mean din know?
Now's the season to bash Benitez, tra-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la
Seriously, 2008? Gimme a break, might as well blame him for not paying 12mil for Daniel Alves when we offered 10mil