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post Mar 17 2011, 06:34 PM, updated 7y ago

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As in the topic. Why the car is less people use? Is it hard to maintain? Expensive parts? Not good looking designs? blink.gif hmm.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(gotdamsg @ Mar 17 2011, 07:34 PM)
As in the topic. Why the car is less people use? Is it hard to maintain? Expensive parts? Not good looking designs?  blink.gif  hmm.gif
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Because it is recond model...
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:45 PM

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so all recond one isn't popular?
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:47 PM

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Because there are alot of choices at the price range
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post Mar 17 2011, 07:04 PM

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so the specs isn't quite nice? especially the engines.
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post Mar 17 2011, 07:15 PM

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somehow the look is not elegant enuff to me
i will prefer camry over markx
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post Mar 17 2011, 07:22 PM

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Some said, Mark-X is a sport version of Camry. Is it true?
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post Mar 17 2011, 07:46 PM

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No. They are two completely different cars. Mark X chassis & mechanicals shared with Toyota Crown & Lexus GS.
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post Mar 17 2011, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Mar 17 2011, 07:46 PM)
No. They are two completely different cars. Mark X chassis & mechanicals  shared with Toyota Crown & Lexus GS.
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indeed notworthy.gif .

mark x serves the purpose of buyers who like the size of the Camry, but prefer a front engine rear drive powertrain with the option to add all wheel drive. but the chasis and mechanicals aren't from camry smile.gif

tomato sauce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mark_X
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:11 PM

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good specs but because of it's recond and too many choices, make it less popular. so most people doesn't like the v6 engine or supercharged v6.
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:13 PM

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i like mark X over camry, more sporty look
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:20 PM

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It's suitable for people who like to stay in between Sport <---> Elegant
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:21 PM

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2 me, the trouble wit the mark x is not that its not a gud car.. its juz that, 1stly, it doesnt look expensive.. when i spend 150k on a car, i want people 2 know ive spent 150k on a car, not juz on some slightly sleeker version of the camry.. i know it bears no relation wit the camry watsoever apart from the badge, but thats juz how it looks.. 2ndly, its kinda carrying the wrong badge.. it may well costs oever 150k, but its juz still a toyota..
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:45 PM

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It doesn't cost as much as 150k nowadays for a Mark X.

Mark X only takes in RON97, the direct-injection engine won't do well RON95.
Higher fuel consumption, less power, and said to have affect the engine performance and reliability in long term (with RON95).

The EPS (electronic power steering) of it isn't that reliable after all, it failed after few years of usage.
I changed mine last year August, it costed me a bomb.....

The noise insulation of the vehicle isn't that great after all....
Better than Honda Civic not really that impressive for such an expensive car.

Stock Mark X looks ugly, with bodykit it shall looks pretty good.

Its a pretty good car for sub-100k. An used recond unit shall be available around 120k? for year 2004/2005 model.
Spare parts not really that expensive, most of the wear and tear parts share similiar price with Camry ACV40.

As CooShyRee said, its still a Toyota....

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post Mar 17 2011, 08:55 PM

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engine less power? v6 supposed to have a good power and they're also have a supercharged v6 version, if i am not mistaken.

Yes it still a Toyota smile.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:58 PM

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engine less power? are u joking? 4th gear ady reach 180, but due to limitation of ECS cant go further more.
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post Mar 17 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(gotdamsg @ Mar 17 2011, 08:55 PM)
engine less power? v6 supposed to have a good power and they're also have a supercharged v6 version, if i am not mistaken.

Yes it still a Toyota smile.gif
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Most of the Malaysia MarkX are 250G v6 engine.
So far I know a friend owned an X with supercharger + NOS.

Others, usually with HKS VAC or Piggyback.
Cosmetically wise, 18" and bumper lips. wink.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(gotdamsg @ Mar 17 2011, 06:45 PM)
so all recond one isn't popular?
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some recond popular..some not.


Added on March 17, 2011, 9:28 pmcan i say mark x is the cheaper version of lexus is250?


Added on March 17, 2011, 9:32 pm
QUOTE(garykam @ Mar 17 2011, 08:58 PM)
engine less power? are u joking? 4th gear ady reach 180, but due to limitation of ECS cant go further more.
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mark x is using the same engine as lexus is250. based on paper..they car can run up to 225kmh and 0-100kmh in 8.4 sec. tongue.gif

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post Mar 17 2011, 09:44 PM

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now lexus IS 250 recond 06 is selling about Rm 170k only. who gonna buy the outdated mark-x anymore? if i not mistaken markx 03-05 selling RM 150k.
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post Mar 17 2011, 10:14 PM

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Added on March 17, 2011, 9:32 pm

mark x is using the same engine as lexus is250. based on paper..they car can run up to 225kmh and 0-100kmh in 8.4 sec. tongue.gif
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Original mark x top speed only 180, cant go any further. i own 1 biggrin.gif for sure u can go further, but u need to unlock ECS. u can run until ur engine blow also no problem biggrin.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 10:31 PM

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lexus price toyota brand
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post Mar 17 2011, 11:37 PM

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FMHO, mostlly because its recond..everyone scare hard to get spare part for it
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post Mar 18 2011, 12:08 AM

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for one the car not suited to out climate, the rubbers get hard the plastics brittle.

engine not suited to run lower RON

spare parts expensive

i guess lots of electronic gadgets that no one really know how to fix

price not cheap also
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 18 2011, 12:08 AM)
for one the car not suited to out climate, the rubbers get hard the plastics brittle.

engine not suited to run lower RON

spare parts expensive

i guess lots of electronic gadgets that no one really know how to fix

price not cheap also
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check earlier posting, someone stated the spare parts cheaper.

The car not suit to our climate? care to explain hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gotdamsg @ Mar 17 2011, 05:27 PM)
check earlier posting, someone stated the spare parts cheaper.

The car not suit to our climate? care to explain  hmm.gif
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err no someone said he had to change the electric power steering and cost him his left nut.

yes th rubbers and plastics aren't fomulated for our constant heat and humidity which leads to it fading or cracking.

secondly the car most probably has heating system since overseas has winter, which if not used often can leak because it uses engine coolant to produce heat.

third, the a/c system is less powerful since their summers are no where near as hot as or humid as our weather which is constant, so again chances of leaks or not cold enough
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QUOTE(amduser @ Mar 17 2011, 08:13 PM)
i like mark X over camry, more sporty look
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(gotdamsg @ Mar 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
check earlier posting, someone stated the spare parts cheaper.

The car not suit to our climate? care to explain  hmm.gif
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I'm operating a workshop myself, thus cheaper in maintenance.
Some of the parts, I import from Singapore myself....

For normal end-user, it will cost a bomb...
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:58 AM

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Spare parts is definitely the problem, apart from the already expensive price for a recond car. The one that we see on the road here is X120 or 1st gen Mark X. Haven't seen the 2nd gen around. But I'd rather get a 1998 X100 Chaser instead. tongue.gif
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For the amount I'm paying to get a Mark X, I rather get a new Camry or Accord smile.gif
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post Mar 19 2011, 12:07 AM

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I saw one unit 2007 Modelista 300G Supercharged V6 on sale smile.gif Produced 320HP and 410NM/3600 rpm. 0-100KM/h in 5 sec..

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I feel not worth coz with that price i can get a new car already.
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post Mar 19 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(sfotsy @ Mar 19 2011, 12:38 AM)
I feel not worth coz with that price i can get a new car already.
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This will be subjective to everyone.

At 150k, some choose harrier acu30 recond. Some aiming brand new Sorento.

I feel camry seriously underpower for the 2.0l model. 2.4v is nothing either.
At used market, a year 2004 MarkX is around 120k. A year 2006 camry worth how much?

I do think now, a used markX is good buy. Definitely not sub150k unregistered units
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Mar 19 2011, 02:15 AM)
This will be subjective to everyone.

At 150k, some choose harrier acu30 recond. Some aiming brand new Sorento.

I feel camry seriously underpower for the 2.0l model. 2.4v is nothing either.
At used market, a year 2004 MarkX is around 120k. A year 2006 camry worth how much?

I do think now, a used markX is good buy. Definitely not sub150k unregistered units
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To me aftersales service is 2x more important than power,looks, handling etc.


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QUOTE(allenultra @ Mar 19 2011, 09:15 AM)
This will be subjective to everyone.

At 150k, some choose harrier acu30 recond. Some aiming brand new Sorento.

I feel camry seriously underpower for the 2.0l model. 2.4v is nothing either.
At used market, a year 2004 MarkX is around 120k. A year 2006 camry worth how much?

I do think now, a used markX is good buy. Definitely not sub150k unregistered units
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true indeed i did know that as i just give my opinion here. As usually it is common to have some choice to choose between a brand new car or recond car.

As once i accompany with a friend whom is interested to get this car, we went to have a look and seems he given a same remark as comparing with this price can buy a new car already especially Toyota camry. As we did not saying how is the car underpower or not? Just saying the " Value" here.

Does it worth it or not?

I will rather buy a brand new car which is hassle free of worrying when yr car will be Kong?
Recondition car i dare not think of it as depending on luck and it is almost same as old car or second hand car which i believe that will surely give problem later.
I will say no to recondition car!
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post Mar 21 2011, 01:46 AM

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I think the main reason Mark-x is not popular because there are too many rival in its class. To get an unresgisted Mark-X 07 is around 140k-150k, some may consider to buy new car like Camry, Accord, New Sonata. Most stock Mark-x without bodykit doesn't look that sporty.

Unless u took S Package or Modelista. Maybe some may consider Lexus IS250 which cost slightly higher.

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post Apr 14 2011, 10:40 PM

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Does it mean recon imported Japanese cars Rubber & Plastic won't last here? They do have hot summers in Japan though just not as humid.
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depends on the car

I am driving a first gen Honda CRV imported from Japan (grey import). Apart from fading paint, nothing is disintegrating yet.
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post Jun 7 2011, 11:14 PM

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Mainly is spare parts problem..its V6 also makan minyak thats why less popular
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becoz all of them is recond but not new from UMW...should put the blame on our government that makes the car super expensive and causes toyota not interested with our market and only imported few models to our country....since even if they import more models available here wont make them get more profit
same things happen to other car manufacturer in malaysia....
and we are also always the last to get their latest car model...pathetic malaysia, we pay much more to owns a car but having third world country customer services.... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Jun 8 2011, 11:26 AM

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The spare parts actually shared with Lexus IS so maintenance is not an issue just go to Lexus SC.

Main reason it's not popular because it's expensive compared to other alternatives. It's also quite an old model.
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firstly,for the price asked u can get a recond bimmer/mercs and brand new camry/accord/sonata/mazda6

secondly, it just a Toyota.
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between lexus is250 and mark x i choose lexus. damn nice! what i heard from car seller, mark x price increase already

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