Dun think so. I think VISTA requires online registration to work...no more pirated stuff...

I just wonder how much does VISTA Home Premium cost? Maybe i should get the WIN MCE now and get a free upgrade later...hhmmm..

Hello guys, FYI, Vista Home Premium OEM is availabe from ur friendly neighbourhood computer store now already for a mere RM400. No need to wait for launch and pay a higher price for it...LOL.

If u r buying new PC and buying ori OS, buy VISTA ler, why buy XP when u can ahem ahem it...hee-hee. Anyway, no point buying license for old O/S anymore.

Anyway, VISTA also got evaluation version. I'm using it right now as i type...it's perfectly legal, but will deactivate in 30 days....there's "workaround" to it but i don't think it'll last for long as MS will surely find a way to defeat it.

Frankly, i don't suggest using VISTA right now as ur main PC. There's still tons of drivers problem. I just found out it won't work with my SB Live 5.1...and there's no driver planned for VISTA from Creative (curse them!!).

I suggest u use XP now, and install the VISTA later when it's more stable with more drivers and patches and service pack available.

btw, OEM only RM400 for Home Premium. So get the ori.

You're all so f***king gay....

I'll take some dumb blonde with huge boobs over Bill gates or Steve Jobs anytime...
like real men do...

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Added on January 29, 2007, 8:55 amYou're using the hacked MAC OSX on the PC platform?? Does it runs XP apps?? Using emulation?? How about games? What's the performance hit is like??

Maybe i wanna try also...


This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 29 2007, 08:55 AM

Yeah, my SB5.1 won't work. Minimum is SB Audigy Value...and i suspect a lot more hardware won't work either.

Why don't u just buy the evaluation version and test it out before decide to buy or not.

In case u don't know, you can install VISTA WITHOUT the CD-Key (during install time) and it'll allow u 30 days access...more than enuff to test.

btw, IMO, the difference between ULTIMATE and Home Premium is pretty negligible. Unless you want to connect to a domain or something, Home Premium is just fine.

Other significant feature included in ULTIMATE:
(1) Bit locker - encrypt ur HDD....do u really need this?? Unless u r storing Goverment OSA like those toll agreement...why bother??
(2) Complete PC Backup - ala Acronis true Image or Norton Ghost. Probably a very basic and crummy imaging solution with limited function.(i read their backup system dun even have compression!!!). Just get a copy of Acronis 10 and you'll probably be much better off.

In otherwords, i think ULTIMATE is an absolute waste of money for the average home user with crappy software thrown in to justifiy the extra price.



This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 29 2007, 02:15 PM

That's why i said [ "Average Home User".[/b} Wakarimasu?? This doesn't include geeks who have 10 PCs at home,cofigure what group policy yadda and tweak like tomorrow's never come.

Not everyone running what IIS servers and yadda. Remote desktop?? I'll rather have PC anywhere/netop or some other 3rd party software.

IMO, Ultimate is just MS excuse of ripping users off with low quality software.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 31 2007, 09:32 AM

-Blundered post-

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Added on January 31, 2007, 11:09 amWas i even talking to you???

And i guess you never read properly. I said "Average Home User" don't need UV. What the heck do you want the argue about???


Nobody is stopping you using UV and being geeky and so forth u know...

What r ya...Bill Gates groupie?? LOL.

I was merely voicing my opinion, if you cannot take it, then i suggest you take a cold shower.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Jan 31 2007, 11:13 AM

Wow, nice twist there. It mean when u buy the OEM, you're the MS support for yourself...LOL. This means MS will not entertain you if u call them up for support??

Well, i guess that won't be much of a problem for most people.

I use 768MB also good wor...

In VISTA, the sound has move to a new platform called OpenAL. Expect all new games to adhere to this standard in the future.

Even 32-bit VISTA got loads of problems with software compatibility and u wanna leap to 64-bit??

Another way of saving ur skin from MS.....Install VISTA, update latest patches, activate it, but don't install additional specific drivers.

Then use Acronis True image to backup this image and hopefully, it'll work when moving to another PC....it works with XP before.

Just cross yer fingers.

I got 4.9 for my main rig below. Previously on single core AMD 64 3000+ was 4.7...only 0.2 difference.

But compared to ur rig, which is so much more expensive, i think i'm qutie satisfied with 4.9 already...LOL.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 5 2007, 04:20 PM

That is correct. But there shouldn't be major drop for newer games, just a few fps less, which u won't notice. Older games will probably choke though.

There's a link somewhere up there from tomshardware. Go read.

Vista actually has been cracked about 1 month ago. Not a crack in the truest sense, as you can't activate your windows, but you also never need to activate it...
No need bt, just google...

btw, this is just for informational purpose, buy original!!!

Just be careful. The current batch of flashdrive is pretty slow. Read reviews that 2 of the fastest thumbdrive for VISTA is ADATA PD7(not found here, I think, never seen it in LYP pricelist) and a new Kingston thumbdrive which is especially enhanced for VISTA.

Don't just buy any thumbdrive or you'll be dissapointed. maybe wait a little while and get one that is fast enuff for VISTA.

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Added on February 7, 2007, 3:57 pm(1) I think you must understand how VISTA works. VISTA works very differently from XP. It'll try to grab everything for the O/S and then allocate accordingly. But i don't see any difference when i run BFME2, almost same amount used about 600+MB or so in VISTA and XP.

There's a parameter showing free blocks or memory, something like that in the Vista Task Manager and it always show very low free blocks. This doesn't mean ur PC is out of memory, VISTA is simply doing it's job and make sure your memory get used, not sitting there being "free" and goyang kaki.

(2) So far run only 3 games...so can't really comment got bug or not, but so far so good.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 7 2007, 03:57 PM

Read my sig.

EAX should work, but no idea. I use built-in-sound...

So far to me, the gaming experience is the same, but since i only played 3 games and i don't play FPS, take my comment with a grain of "garam".

But i can tell you the response is good, in fact loading my game is even faster than XP. I suspect VISTA load some of the game data into memory already while i'm not looking...LOL.

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Added on February 7, 2007, 5:26 pmWhere u heard such thing?? Weird... Even VISTA is ahem-ed already...cannot even save itself, how to save others??

Neway, buy ori!!! No pirated talk!!!


This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 7 2007, 05:26 PM

oh man...you're sure in hot soup. Run back to your supplier and change it pronto!!

btw, all those crap about Vista deleting files are nonsense. All my ripped MP3 (from my originals CDs) are still there safe and sound.

What i'm really annoyed is Nvidia who has NO VISTA DRIVERS for the NFORCE 500 series platform yet!!!

So much for the VISTA Ready logo plastered all over their website!!!!

Well, at least it still can run, but maybe not optimize.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 8 2007, 11:53 AM

No ler. Now there's a bunch of users in US planning to sue Nvidia for failing to provide drivers!!

thanks. Looks like just released on 5th Feb. I checked their website day before yesterday also tadak.

Hopefully, it's not a quickly hammered driver to avoid the wrath of the users and plagued with problems.

Will download and install tonight.

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Added on February 8, 2007, 3:15 pmFinally, more feedback from user with real application performance. As i said many times before, 1GB is just fine for Vista. Even 768MB also ok as long as ur not hardcore gamer or multiple-windows addict.

IMO, the hardware requirement for VISTA is even lower then from the transition from 98SE=>XP.




This post has been edited by Matrix: Feb 8 2007, 03:15 PM