@G-17 hmm , apt based or pacman

Still can't decide

If let's say I choose to install via netinstall , what are packages that is necessary to be installed but at the same time , maintaining the lightweightness to it ?

Kinda worry I've missed some important packages

@Zai

Well, it all depends on your needs and hardware

For starters, to build ScrotWM after you do a netinstall, you basically need;


Note: I use su for root operations. If you prefer sudo, I trust you know how to install and configure sudo and a sudoers list. I'll also use nano for the editor since it already comes with a minimal netnstall (I think) and I'm not sure if ou know how to use Vim or not.

As root:
First, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and make it something like this. This is almost a "bare minimum" list of sources.




Have it look something like this;

I added the Google sources for you just in case you want Chromium. I recommend Testing for you since you're coming from Ubuntu, but if you want something even more cutting-edge, change all the "testing" words to "unstable"

Then

After this, you should have an official Debian Testing/Wheezy basic installation.

Assuming all updates are successful, reboot from console with


After the restart, we'll install the basic xorg headers and stuff you'll need for ScrotWM
Go back to root user again;


Then;


To start ScrotWM, you must create a .xinitrc file.
exit root (Ctrl+D), then


you should have a bare minimum of this to launch scrotwm;

Note: You'll see a lot of lines commented out (has a # in the beginning of line). That's because these lines are optional for an installation, and require the related apps. You're free to install them if desired. For example, if you decide to install gnome-power-manager, then remove the # from the related line in the .xinitrc.

Then you just do this to start X


For a better explanation, check out the Debian and Arch wiki's pages on Xinitrc and Scrotwm
http://wiki.debian.org/Xinitrc
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xinitrc
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Scrotwm

Achtung!!
Remember, this is just a very basic setup. I didn't include instructions on wireless drivers cos I dunno what hardware you have. In any case, since you're using ScrotWM and don't have a systray, you're probably better of with wicd (wicd-curses in terminal) to handle your wireless connections after you've installed your necessary wireless drivers (if required) Also note that you'll need to install gtk2-engines for GUI apps like Firefox or Thunar/PCmanFM (file managers). I recommend you don't install Nautilus as a file manager cos it likes to take over many system tasks for you and will unecessarily bloat up your gconf.

This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 10 2011, 07:55 PM

F**k-ing hell Ubuntu , suddenly prompt out and list down the partition errors , probably sectors problem

Not gonna go back again

Gonna go for Arch first and then another install of Debian Squeeze

Wish me luck

Lucky i did not store anything important on my Ubuntu partition

Just so you know cocooh: You can choose to install a base Ubuntu CLI installation and start from there. Kind of how you do an Arch Linux installation.

All you need is the *buntu Alternate CDs.

... Only to find myself installing the basic KDE workspace of all things. It's OK but somehow I feel I need the liquorix kernels because for some reason fglrx performs poorly on Ubuntu's default kernels.

This post has been edited by FlameReaper: Jul 10 2011, 11:24 PM

Successfully installed Debian

Configuring time

Welcome to the club. I'm still running it on my lappy... with a little more colour though. Because G-17 insists

Hmm , Thunar or Pcmanfm ?

I guess both are lightweight enough

If it's lightweight you want, the correct question should be;



But if you insist on GUI bloat, try PCManFM-Mod. The guy should have a trusted Debian PPA (with keyring) up somewhere.
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/downloads/mod-pcmanfm/

Also, in case you need it;
http://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/

This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 11 2011, 08:56 PM

Installed normal PCManFM

Actually , how can i set .xinitrc to run on scrotwm start up ? It doesnt seems to budge

It's documented in ArchWiki right?

scrotwm - ArchWiki

Nop , doesnt explain how to solve it

Did you remember to make it executable?


Sorry if I forgot to include this previously.

If you still have problems,
Post your ~/.xinitrc here.

Also, what are you invoking to run xinitrc? ... startx?

This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 11 2011, 10:54 PM

=_= its already executable

Well i'm not good at anything , inside my xinitrc is empty , so i just added these :

exec /home/willeosoeurs/.scrotwm.sh

And what is inside your .scrotwm.sh?

You shouldn't need to use a script to launch scrotwm, since .xinitrc is already a script in itself.
Look at the past long post I made for you with the .xinitrc section?

Technically, if you installed the scrotwm executable to a folder in your $PATH (which is most likely if you got scrotwm via apt), all you need to launch it is a "exec scrotwm" in your xinitrc.

Again, look at the long post above (or previous page) ... the example ~/.xinitrc I put for you there should give you a clue on what you need inside.

These :

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Added on July 11, 2011, 11:16 pmUpdate : damn == i tot it was meant for another sh file , it seems to be included in xinitrc ?

This post has been edited by cocooh: Jul 11 2011, 11:16 PM

@zai
Waah!! ... you just copy-pasted the past example I put for farkinid?! ... that was just an example, bro!!

Okay, nvm

make sure your ~/.xinitrc contains this;



Try to start it first (startx) and see if you can successfully launch ScrotWM ... if scotwm launches, try to open a terminal with Mod + Shift + Enter (Mod key is either Alt or Windows key, depending on your conf), and try Mod + P to launch dmenu (a small menu on top, which can launch other apps) ..

This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 11 2011, 11:20 PM

hmm , scrotwm launches beautifully now im gonna try whether the xinitrc works

Btw , the configuration from that evilwm , the bold window border looks nice I wonder if scrotwm can do that

Can, but not your version. The one in the Debian repos (even Unstable repos) is a bit old, but considered stable. You can specify phat borders in the newer version built from source of synched from CVS. I suggest you avoid that until you're familiar with basic ScrotWM/tiling behaviour.

As for .xinitrc, you see the xsetroot3 blah-blah #333333 thing I put for you? that basically gives you a 20% grey background. If you want your own wallpaper, you'll need to install feh (apt-get), then comment out the xsetroot bg line (put a # in the beginning) and then replace a line with the feh variable (see the feh line in your scrotwm.sh... something like that). The synclient lines control your touchpad behaviour (twofinger scroll only works on touchpads that support multitouch) ... see here for more = http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad (only if your touchpad is Synaptics). other stuff like power managers, you have to decide yourself what you prefer and install it (xfce4-power-manager is lighter, though I'm not sure if HAL still has problems with it or not)) and then uncomment the corresponding line in the .xinitrc.

Everything works fine there , ive tried and run the script , but weird is

xinitrc wont even load when i login to scrotwm

Not only that , my mocp theme wont save revert back to default

No, if you manage to start scrotwm, then your xinitrc is loading it just fine. What script are you talking about? ... you don't need the scrotwm.sh if you already use xinitrc.

Also, you need to specify the mocp theme you want in the mocp config file.... Do "man mocp" in terminal for a man page, or go here = http://moc.daper.net/node/87

I need to sleep... we continue tomorrow after work... if I survive.

This post has been edited by G-17: Jul 11 2011, 11:49 PM