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post Mar 14 2011, 01:47 PM

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Sorry G-17, I've been really swamped with work the past week. Haven't tried it yet. Will give it a go coming weekend.

Added on March 16, 2011, 11:29 amHi G-17,

I've tried rcconf... unfortunately it didn't work. It said unable to write to... uh... cna't remember what. Permission denied. And yes i did sudo when i ran it. Also, I don't dare delete xinitrc. I don't know whats gonna happen if i delete it.

Will try using pure CLI to run it. However, for the other things, there is a 'login' in /bin but its unreadable via nano. Its got alot of funky characters with a 'cat /bin/login'.

Running '/bin/bash -login /etc/X11/Xsession %session' results in Xsession: Unable to launch "%session" X session --- "xsession" not found; falling back to default session.

Conundrum

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post Mar 16 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 16 2011, 03:45 PM)
sorry for you  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

i've succesfully install arch into my usb and run scrotwm via slim.  drool.gif

but its bloated tho.. gonna spoil more and learn about arch then start again from scratch  laugh.gif
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But how do you get specific types of applications to run on boot? In arch, there is alot of documentation but for Debian, there doesn't seem to be much.

Seem like Debian + SLiM is rare combination
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:50 PM

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Just to update my adventures smile.gif

I've been reading about runlevels ALOT and I'm still not done yet. But I'm beginning to see the signs of why I can't load the mousetap script into my boot.

It might be because of rcS instead of rc.sysinit but I'm not too sure yet. But I won't change anything until I've got a decent grasp of runlevels.

Again, thanks guys. You all have been really helpful. Also my lappy smells of leet-ness now.
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post Apr 27 2011, 04:57 PM

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Ok, its been a while since I've updated this thread. Actually, I'm looking for help.

So I'm running MoC as my music player now and I've decided I want the name and some other details of the currently playing song on my scrotwm bar.

Unfortunately, my baraction.sh doesn't seem to be working. Can anybody (I mean you G-17) kindly show me a copy of their working baraction.sh? I'll rewrite mine based on yours.
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post Apr 29 2011, 10:51 AM

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Thanks man. I will look through this over the weekend.

One day I'll post a screenie of how my lappy looks now. I finally got urxvt to work with transparency. Bwhahaha... wasted a few company hours doing that. I am proud.
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post Jul 11 2011, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 11 2011, 06:31 PM)
Successfully installed Debian biggrin.gif

Configuring time
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Welcome to the club. I'm still running it on my lappy... with a little more colour though. Because G-17 insists
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post Jul 13 2011, 11:14 AM

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Just to note, you have to check if your wireless network uses WEP Passphrase or Preshared key. wicd differentiates it. If you set wicd to Passphrase but your router is set to Preshared, then you will get an authentication failure.
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post Jul 13 2011, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 13 2011, 02:02 PM)
^Aah ... I overlooked that bit.
Hope Zai's still around to try it. He's been quiet for a few hours now, I'm worried he ran back to Gnome and/or *buntu already. sweat.gif
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LOL worried....

At least its still linux. If he said he is going back to Windows or :gasp: OSX, then somebody better stop him quick.

But he might have messed up all the configs with all the codes being thrown around. I think its better to put everything to default 1st. Wireless is usually dynamic addresses (dhcp assigned). This is because if you assign it as static, you'll have problems at starbucks/coffeebeans/oldkopitiam for sure.
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post Jul 13 2011, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 13 2011, 04:25 PM)
@farkinid , Any how i can revert the settings back to normal ?  sweat.gif
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I assume that you are using a tiling WM. So everything is command line right?

I don't think there is a revert to default button, so you'll have to manually undo everything you have done so far. Once that is done you can check and see if you are having the authentication problem again. If you aren't but yet still can't get connected, I suggest d/l-ing aircrack-ng to get your wireless card associated with the wireless network.

Aircrack won't fix your problem but it might help testing if your wireless card has problems associating with the network. There might be an easier method to check for association problems but I've always just used aircrack. Also if it does get associated, you can try wireshark analysis to find out what packets are being thrown back and forth.
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jul 13 2011, 07:49 PM)
Static IP also failed?
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It doesn't sound like a problem in acquiring network address. The 3 main parts of connecting to a wireless network are
  1. Association
  2. Authentication
  3. Acquisition

At this point, the only thing we know is that Authentication already fails. Acquisition doesn't come into the picture yet. Therefore, need to check the 1st 2.
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post Jul 14 2011, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 14 2011, 05:00 PM)
@Zai.
Good to know you found a solution. Though I still don't understand why you people like Slim so much when a simple StartX or configuring XDM is so much easier (and nicer... I find Slim a tad ugly, tbh)

Anyways, congrats on your first Debian + TilingWM install.
Now lets see how long you can survive without a systray laugh.gif
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Can't be that bad. I've been using Debian + Tiling WM since this thread began and I don't miss the systray.
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post Jul 15 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 15 2011, 02:50 PM)
Im back with more questions laugh.gif

Debian as i understand now has 3 fork , stable , testing and unstable

Im running Debian stable right now  nod.gif but if i wanted to upgrade to testing , i need to change my source list from squeeze - stable to wheezy - testing only ?

Any other things to be done ?

And i've heard that i need to upgrade my kernel as well , some even have problem loading X after upgrading Squeeze to Wheezy  shocking.gif
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I can't remember what its called but all debian testing has the same codename. (Just a nice "did you know?" kinda thing).

Anyways, after you change your /etc/apt/sources.list just run
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sudo apt-get upgrade

It should change everything for you automatically and break just about everything too tongue.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 15 2011, 03:16 PM)
sweat.gif worried about breaking though , especially the kernel part
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Uh , well... I was exaggerating. The kernel itself should break but you might have some library mismatches. I've never actually moved to testing before so I can't comment too much.

However, I have done a kernel upgrade using the method i mentioned. No problems.
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post Jul 15 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jul 15 2011, 03:23 PM)
Hmm , might wanna stay tight if so  sweat.gif Ive done so much to configure and im too scared to just break it off like that  shakehead.gif
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I say go for it. Just image your drive/partition 1st. Then if it really goes bad, just put back the image. I do that with my servers actually.
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post Jul 15 2011, 04:42 PM

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Ok drive imaging is cloning the drive. I've used a couple before but clonezilla is definitely 1 of the better ones imho. Its pretty fast. 7 hours to clone 1.5TB

Also, its based on debian so you should have no problems adapting to it in case anything goes wrong (not that anything has ever gone wrong). Just burn the ISO into CD or put it into a pendrive (which is what I do) and boot from it. Then follow the menus and you'll be fine. Also, prepare 1 external drive.

http://clonezilla.org/
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:06 AM

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I don't get it, why use terminal based browser? The "normal" browsers are really powerful. Its not just for websurfing.
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post Aug 2 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 2 2011, 01:53 PM)
@farkinid
Didn't have much luck yesterday with the ATI SDK, which was expected since I'm missing a lot of ATI/AMD related libraries, not to mention the actual ATI hardware. Will try on another rig later.
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Hey man, thanks alot. I really don't want you to waste your time on this though. I can power through it myself. Just gotta set aside some time. I asked here just to see if anybody has any experience thats all.

Also, the SDK won't work without the hardware because it needs to talk to non-free drivers. 1 of the really strange errors I got was when I had non-free drivers installed and working perfectly but the SDK refused to recognize my hardware.
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post Aug 5 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Aug 5 2011, 12:34 PM)
^ +1 rep.. oh wait.. wrong forum.

btw, anyone managed to run scrotwm and OB with SLIM?.  cry.gif
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I'm running Scrot with SLIM... i can tell you, its a little nightmarish. But i finally got it to work on Debian.
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:23 PM

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Guys, I can't remember (and for some reason my google-fu has failed me today) but how do i configure an application to load in a specific workspace.

Eg. Alt + f starts firefox but i want it to start in workspace number 4.

I did this when I 1st started this adventure but I forgot how now.
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post Aug 11 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 11 2011, 05:50 PM)
@Farkinid

You didn't mention what WM you're on. I assume ScrotWM?

FYI, you need to be using at least 0.9.32 to be able to initiate Autorun functions (see man page of the  latest version)

I'm afraid the version in the Debian repos is a few versions older (stability = geezer-old apps), and no maintainer seems to want to add the newer versions to Unstable or Experimental.

THe only way is to sync with CVS or compile from source. If you do intend to take that path, then it's best you quit X and totally purge scrotwm first (remember, purge, not just a simple remove... and remember to backup your ~/.scrotwm.conf first), before compiling the source version (get 0.9.33). Reason is because apt, as you might realize by now) puts executables in /usr/bin while make-install puts it in /usr/local/bin, so it's best not to confuse your symlinks. After you do that, just cp the new included /etc/scrotwm.conf to ~/.scrotwm.conf and make the necessary changes. Do not paste your old config, as that will break some of the functionality and possibly cause scrot to crash. Just use it as reference while editing the new config.

If you just want to use the current version, then the only way is to open FF in workspace 4 when you first start Scrotwm. That way, it'll open there again until you quit Scrotwm.

Did I misunderstand your question?
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Yeah I'm using ScrotWM. I read a long time ago that in the scrotwm.conf, its possible to put the following :-
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program[Fireforx]=firefox
bind[Firefox]= MOD+f <insert additional switches here>

So when I press mod+f, firefox opens in anohter workspace. Not in the workspace im at.
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