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post Jul 15 2011, 05:53 PM

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[quote=G-17,Jul 15 2011, 05:46 PM]@Farkinid & Zai
It's actually "apt-get dist-upgrade" for when you upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy (Testing) or Sid (Unstable). apt-get upgrade alone won't cut it. Also note that the first time you dist-upgrade after changing sources, it's recommended you do it outside X, preferably inside an administrative init level (init 3 is usually enough)

Zai... Yup, all you have to do is change Squeeze to Testing in your sources.list
You can also have a hybrid of Stable, Testing and Unstable on the same install if you understand apt-pinning, but it might sound a bit too demanding to someone new to Debian.

Also note that a dist-upgrade after converting sources from Squeeze to Testing might not bring in a newer kernel. You might have to "apt-cache search linux-headers" and "apt-cache search linux-image" and manually install them the first time round. Not 100% sure since I haven't run Debian via a Stable netinstall image in a while (I prefer GRML)

Additional notes: Unstable has long since depreciated HAL in favour of Udev, but I'm not quite sure of Squeeze or Testing. Do pay attention to apt-output.


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post Jul 16 2011, 09:57 PM

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Is there any other way to increase it ?

Alsa is full sweat.gif
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post Jul 16 2011, 11:00 PM

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^Increase what? Volume?
Run "alsamixer" in terminal and first make sure your Master and PCM are both turned up. Maybe other options like Front and Headphone as well.

Also, your previous post? ... why just quote me without saying anything? o.O

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post Jul 17 2011, 04:05 AM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Jul 16 2011, 11:00 PM)
^Increase what? Volume?
Run "alsamixer" in terminal and first make sure your Master and PCM are both turned up. Maybe other options like Front and Headphone as well.

Also, your previous post? ... why just quote me without saying anything? o.O
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Nvm bout that laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2011, 08:58 PM

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Hmm , is there any terminal based web browser which shows images as well ?

Links2 doesn show images in my urxvt sad.gif

Or is there any configs that i have missed laugh.gif ?
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post Aug 1 2011, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(cocooh @ Aug 1 2011, 08:58 PM)
Hmm , is there any terminal based web browser which shows images as well ?

Links2 doesn show images in my urxvt sad.gif

Or is there any configs that i have missed laugh.gif ?
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Start it with "links2 -g" ... kinda ugly, though (Ive never bothered finding out whether it can be customized or not)

There also w3m, which you can compile with image support, though it's a bit weird sometimes.

user posted image

On Debian, just "apt-get install w3m w3m-img"

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 1 2011, 09:47 PM)
Start it with "links2 -g" ... kinda ugly, though (Ive never bothered finding out whether it can be customized or not)

There also w3m, which you can compile with image support, though it's a bit weird sometimes.

user posted image

On Debian, just "apt-get install w3m w3m-img"
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Ahh , looks weird with links2 (ugly actually sweat.gif )

But the thing is , links2 in urxvt does not support mouse clicking other than ESC menu's

Or its meant to be like that ?
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Aug 1 2011, 09:53 PM)
Ahh , looks weird with links2 (ugly actually  sweat.gif )

But the thing is , links2 in urxvt does not support mouse clicking other than ESC menu's

Or its meant to be like that ?
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Not sure. I haven't used it in a while. I mainly use elinks for my term www browser and uzbl or jumanji for my gui one, with aether chromium or ff as a fallback in case pages don't render properly.

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 1 2011, 10:04 PM)
Not sure. I haven't used it in a while. I mainly use elinks for my term www browser and uzbl or jumanji for my gui one, with aether chromium or ff as a fallback in case pages don't render properly.
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hmm jumanji hmm.gif

i'll stick to links2 for now laugh.gif quite easy to use nod.gif
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:06 AM

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I don't get it, why use terminal based browser? The "normal" browsers are really powerful. Its not just for websurfing.
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post Aug 2 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(farkinid @ Aug 2 2011, 11:06 AM)
I don't get it, why use terminal based browser? The "normal" browsers are really powerful. Its not just for websurfing.
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Finding alternative option to replace Chrome (just in case) tongue.gif

Now im eager to try evilwm blink.gif

But i need more studying bout this wm rclxub.gif
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post Aug 2 2011, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(farkinid @ Aug 2 2011, 11:06 AM)
I don't get it, why use terminal based browser? The "normal" browsers are really powerful. Its not just for websurfing.
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I agree. Most of the intrawebs is heavy on graphics. Using a curses browser is just too much of a compromise most of the time. They're great (better tha gui, in fact) for browsing mailing lists and text-heavy bbs or the ocassional streamlined news site, but that's about it, tbh.
You can have elinks/links2/links pipe images out to feh for image viewing, but most would probably find that cumbersome. Speaking of which, I hope someone at Google releases some source code for G+ so that we can get a lightweight CLI client for it. It's a great service, but I'm fed up of all those animated circles and bubbles. Way too heavy for a netbook.

@farkinid
Didn't have much luck yesterday with the ATI SDK, which was expected since I'm missing a lot of ATI/AMD related libraries, not to mention the actual ATI hardware. Will try on another rig later.




QUOTE(cocooh @ Aug 2 2011, 11:29 AM)
Finding alternative option to replace Chrome (just in case) tongue.gif

Now im eager to try evilwm  blink.gif

But i need more studying bout this wm  rclxub.gif
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If it's webkit, try Midori or Uzbl.
Uzbl is currently what I use nowadays on my Debian boxes (Jumanji on Arch boxes since AUR has it).
Tbh, if your hardware is recent, the new Firefox builds from the Mozilla Debian repo are excellent, particularly the Unstable, beta and Aurora daily snapshots.
http://mozilla.debian.net/

Regarding EvilWM, it's actually one of the simplest WMs around. Just install it, and the "man evilwm" in a term for all the info you need.
It's not for everyone, though. Some say it's too minimal.

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 2 2011, 01:53 PM)
I agree. Most of the intrawebs is heavy on graphics. Using a curses browser is just too much of a compromise most of the time. They're great (better tha gui, in fact) for browsing mailing lists and text-heavy bbs or the ocassional streamlined news site, but that's about it, tbh.
You can have elinks/links2/links pipe images out to feh for image viewing, but most would probably find that cumbersome. Speaking of which, I hope someone at Google releases some source code for G+ so that we can get a lightweight CLI client for it. It's a great service, but I'm fed up of all those animated circles and bubbles. Way too heavy for a netbook.

@farkinid
Didn't have much luck yesterday with the ATI SDK, which was expected since I'm missing a lot of ATI/AMD related libraries, not to mention the actual ATI hardware. Will try on another rig later.
If it's webkit, try Midori or Uzbl.
Uzbl is currently what I use nowadays on my Debian boxes (Jumanji on Arch boxes since AUR has it).
Tbh, if your hardware is recent, the new Firefox builds from the Mozilla Debian repo are excellent, particularly the Unstable, beta and Aurora daily snapshots.
http://mozilla.debian.net/

Regarding EvilWM, it's actually one of the simplest WMs around. Just install it, and the "man evilwm" in a term for all the info you need.
It's not for everyone, though. Some say it's too minimal.
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As minimal as possible laugh.gif

Gonna try to customize it when i got time for it
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post Aug 2 2011, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 2 2011, 01:53 PM)
@farkinid
Didn't have much luck yesterday with the ATI SDK, which was expected since I'm missing a lot of ATI/AMD related libraries, not to mention the actual ATI hardware. Will try on another rig later.
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Hey man, thanks alot. I really don't want you to waste your time on this though. I can power through it myself. Just gotta set aside some time. I asked here just to see if anybody has any experience thats all.

Also, the SDK won't work without the hardware because it needs to talk to non-free drivers. 1 of the really strange errors I got was when I had non-free drivers installed and working perfectly but the SDK refused to recognize my hardware.
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Hmm , about wm's

Evilwm vs Subtle

Which is much easier to be config and to use ?

hmm.gif
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post Aug 4 2011, 10:59 PM

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To make tiling even more fun and easy to be customize , i've compiled everything in this thread into one PDF file laugh.gif

Thx to G-17 n Farkinid laugh.gif

And also everyone else laugh.gif

Click me to download

And it is open source laugh.gif

Source file

I will update the pdf if there is any changes

Any mischief in the information written in the pdf do tell me ohmy.gif

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post Aug 5 2011, 12:34 PM

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^ +1 rep.. oh wait.. wrong forum.

btw, anyone managed to run scrotwm and OB with SLIM?. cry.gif
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post Aug 5 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Aug 5 2011, 12:34 PM)
^ +1 rep.. oh wait.. wrong forum.

btw, anyone managed to run scrotwm and OB with SLIM?.  cry.gif
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Here laugh.gif wad happened ?

How do you start with ? xinit or xsession ?

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post Aug 5 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Aug 5 2011, 12:34 PM)
^ +1 rep.. oh wait.. wrong forum.

btw, anyone managed to run scrotwm and OB with SLIM?.  cry.gif
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I'm running Scrot with SLIM... i can tell you, its a little nightmarish. But i finally got it to work on Debian.
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Aug 2 2011, 02:49 PM)
Hey man, thanks alot. I really don't want you to waste your time on this though. I can power through it myself. Just gotta set aside some time. I asked here just to see if anybody has any experience thats all.

Also, the SDK won't work without the hardware because it needs to talk to non-free drivers. 1 of the really strange errors I got was when I had non-free drivers installed and working perfectly but the SDK refused to recognize my hardware.
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I still haven't been able to get my hands on an AMD/ATI GFX based rig yet. Actually, I'm kinda curious on the SDKs as well, just for the sake of being up-to-date on the matter. it's embarassing how often I get asked about ATI stuff and have no answer for anyone. sad.gif
Sadly the only piace of hardware I have that has ATI gfx is this 7-8 yr old Acer Aspire laptop, and it seems the old proprietary drivers for that are all incompatible with the current Xorg as well as the SDK..... it only works with the open source driver, and with very limited functionality at that.

Your errors sound like a symlinking problem to me, btw. Can't help further as of right now, but that's my prelim assessment/guesstimate.


Added on August 5, 2011, 8:38 pm

QUOTE(cocooh @ Aug 2 2011, 03:58 PM)
@G-17

Hmm , about wm's

Evilwm vs Subtle

Which is much easier to be config and to use ?

hmm.gif
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Sorry for totally missing this question. Subtle and Evil are totally different beats. Evil, as you might realize by now, is extremely light and minimal, while Subtle is more full featured (though still pretty light).

Not quite sure how well Subtle works with the current Debian. It depends and is configured in Ruby, which was a bit of a mess on Debian when I last tried it (not surprising as it was the time all the branches came out of a frozen state right after the Squeeze official release). I personally have only tried Subtle with Arch and Slackware.

Subtle is heavily dependent on tagging, so unless you find the time to configure it to make use of tags and gravities, you might not get the best use out of it. Knowledge in Ruby (one of my fave languages, btw) definitely helps.I think it's a pretty decent WM, reason I don't use it now is because it's not minimal enough for me, and it's a bit too ... uhm ... widgety.

I have some old configs if you need em, though they'll probably require some level of editing to fit your workflow. I'll post a scrot in the desktop for you to take a look.

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