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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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cybermaster98
post Aug 10 2011, 07:44 AM

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Does anybody know why UOB's gold savings account spread is only RM2 while Maybank & Public Bank is about RM 7.20? Are there any hidden charges for UOB?
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:54 PM

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I would say this. When i invested in Maybank GSPA in May 2010, many ppl (some on this forum) mentioned that the price is too high, bla bla bla. I bought at RM 131.55 per gram then. Latest current price is RM 172.34 (buying RM164.34).

So im saying this again. Dont waste time analysing gold performances. Just start investing. The longer you waste time commenting in here without investing, the lesser your long term income is gonna be. But go over to UOB as the spread there is only RM2 not RM 7 like in Maybank.

There is no best time to buy gold. Just get on the band wagon and make money. Everything is a risk. Nobody can predict what will happen in the future but gold is worth taking the risk.
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 10 2011, 02:27 PM)
i disagree with this.

It took me 3 years to study abour gold way back in 1999. Bought my first in 2002.
Its always good to know what you are getting into AND
its also the Knowledge to know

WHEN TO GET OUT.

btw i bought  PBB gold a/c in 2009 at the reversal at Rm90  tongue.gif


Added on August 10, 2011, 2:35 pmHad a look at the title of thread
Wheres oil now?  Total disconnect!  rclxms.gif
Of course you need to do your own research. I didnt mean dont analise. Just look at some of the comments here. These are not ppl who are analysing. These are doubters. These are ppl who are waiting for all the indicators to look perfectly good before moving into it. Yes i too analysed but i surely didnt spend a few years doing that. Sometimes we wait too long for the perfect chance and when it comes, we end up waiting for something even better.

Many of those who said that buying at 131.55 at that point in time was a mistake are also those who are saying that 172.34 today is also too high. Believe me, they will also say the same thing when the price hits RM 180 and above. In the end, they just wont buy but they will continue 'analysing' repeatedly.

Ppl must realise that gold investment is highly volotile. There is no such thing as a perfect time. You may get a better time than others but there's a certain element of luck involved. When i bought mine in May last year, the following week it dropped to below RM 130 so yes that was a better time but the only thing that means is less income compared to those who bought at the later price. But what 'irritates' me are ppl who continue to doubt and dont bother investing and then as the price goes up they keep saying its too high. vmad.gif

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post Aug 10 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Aug 10 2011, 02:10 PM)
yea same here but i tot 131.55 was something like early this yr or so?
cuz i got it around 135+ in feb 2011
Gold hit the RM 131 mark a few times in the past year. Example, 11/06/10, 24/09/10 and 28/01/11.
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:27 PM

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Since we're on the topic, based on the current run that gold is having, what do you think will be the max price it will hit in the next month or so? Today the prices stagnated and hovered around RM 172.
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:05 AM

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Gold prices just hit US$ 1,787. US stock market falls again. Waiting to see impact on Malaysia in the morning.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:05 AM)
Gold prices just hit US$ 1,787. US stock market falls again. Waiting to see impact on Malaysia in the morning.
Gold is on another bull run. It has crossed the US$ 1,800 barrier per ounce for the 1st time in history. Lets see Malaysian prices when banks open in 1 hour.

For those of you still doubting, stop and get on the bandwagon before its too late.

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post Aug 11 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 11 2011, 08:28 AM)
Those who are interested in Fibonacci projections

GOLD (print this)

* MAJOR ONE up from $256 to $1,015
(actually 4 times the $255 low)
= FINISHED
*MAJOR TWO down from $1,015 to $699, say $700
(a decline of 31% Fibonacci)
= FINISHED
* MAJOR THREE up from $700 to $3,500
(a Fibonacci 5 times the $500 low prior)
= IN PROGRESS
* MAJOR FOUR down from $3,500 to $2,500
( a 29% decline)
= LATER
*MAJOR FIVE up from $2,500 to $10,000
(also a four fold increase, same as ONE)
= SUPER LATER
What time frames are we talking about here?
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QUOTE(Superdude @ Aug 11 2011, 09:36 AM)
Public Bank Gold Investment Account as at 11/08/11 9:15 AM

Selling Price
RM 179.2600

Buying Price
RM 172.3400

wow...
Yes Maybank is selling at RM 178.91. Spread roughly the same between the both.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 11 2011, 11:08 AM)
Why crazy? $2000 is only $200 from $1800 and only 11% to go.....no big deal.

Gold has climbed from $220 in 2002 to $1800 in 2011

and was $1309 in Feb2011. 

People are talking $5,000. $2,000 is olde story  biggrin.gif
Yes US$ 2,000 per ounce is only the next target barrier but something that's very possible to achieve. But gold is very volotile. 1 hour ago it was trading at RM 5,473 per ounce and now its dropped to RM 5,360. But as long as the trend is upwards, the price will keep going up.

But the question is: Do we still continue to invest or just be contend with current investments? Im thinking of going into UOB now since the spread is only RM2 compared to Maybank with RM 7.20
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QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:38 PM)
Should be 2% vs 7+% spread right?
No its RM 2 vs RM7. UOB seems fixed but Maybank fluctuates as the price increases.
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Aug 11 2011, 12:47 PM)
did those who got the GSPA/maybank letter to buy 150g below the rated pricing frm their website?
how attractive is it?
What letter? I didnt get any letter. Do provide more details please.
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QUOTE(mar_soff @ Aug 11 2011, 04:27 PM)
Thanks..will go to Maybank tomorrow for buying..got limited budget..This is the best time to buy right? Or should wait..
Buy at UOB. The spread is only RM2. Maybank will charge you RM 7+.

Plus if ure investing in gold, make sure you buy at least 20-50g. Anything smaller than that is pointless. The profits even if the price increases, will be minimal.

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post Aug 12 2011, 08:54 AM

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Maybank selling at RM 171.72 this morning. UOB hasnt updated yet. Gold now trading at US$1,755 per ounce. Question is will the gold drop further? What you guys think? Im seriously considering going into UOB today.
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2 interesting articles on CNN Money:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/11/markets/gold/index.htm

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/11/news/inter..._debt/index.htm


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 12 2011, 09:03 AM)
NOBODY will know how gold will behave in the short term.

Plan yer buying.......if $1755 is your 1st target buy some.....avrage in over a few
price targets......IF gold is your major investment asset

Otherwise any price is okie
No gold surely isnt my major investment. Mine still is property and ASB. But still nobody wants to experience losses on any investments. biggrin.gif

The problem i see with gold is the rise over the past week was too drastic. When something rises so drastically, its bound to drop the same. Gold has been so volotile this week which makes it more risky. Thats why i would prefer UOB as the spread is only RM2. High chance of profit and lower chances of major losses as compared to banks with higher spreads.

Whats your view?
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QUOTE(ikram.adi @ Aug 12 2011, 09:19 AM)
Try KFH gold account. http://www.kfh.com.my/. You can open account, take physicals out or let them store it
I just saw KFH. The spread is so damn high! RM 10 per gram. Crazy! shocking.gif


Added on August 12, 2011, 9:31 am
QUOTE(ikram.adi @ Aug 12 2011, 09:19 AM)
Try KFH gold account. http://www.kfh.com.my/. You can open account, take physicals out or let them store it
I just saw KFH. The spread is so damn high! RM 10 per gram. Crazy! shocking.gif

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QUOTE(lustman @ Aug 13 2011, 05:39 AM)
Finally, I've closed my gold account with Maybank @ 165  rclxm9.gif
SHould have just kept it and opened separate accounts with other banks if u wish.
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QUOTE(megabyte @ Aug 14 2011, 02:01 AM)
I bought 20 grams @ RM174.60 oh. quite high eh?

serious about correction to $1600-ish per ounce? i wonder is it true what the analysts say about gold will rise to $2000 by year end?

how does gold relate to the stock market? Is it that those people sell off their gold to buy stock and then the price will go up?

Like I said, I still have a lot to learn.. Hmm..
Gold investment is not for short term gains. Look to the future. Gold will rise but maybe it might hit rock bottom before that but 20g is nothing much to gain or lose. So dont worry. Sit back and just observe.
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QUOTE(megabyte @ Aug 14 2011, 02:13 AM)
That is true. One more thing I have been struggling to answer myself is that should I withdraw the money and buy physical gold instead? A friend of mine told me that getting physical gold is more profitable. How true is that compared to paper golds?

I wonder how to see if the price already at rock bottom? For the price of gold as of now, is it $1600 a rock bottom price? I think I should reserve some money to buy more if it hits $1600 per oz. But the problem is, not much cash flow already.  cry.gif
Forget physical gold. The extra premiums you have to pay during purchase and sale isnt worth it. Just stick to paper gold. We just want the profits not the gold itself.


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