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 Buying Gold As Investment V2, 2011 Gold Rush From Oil Hype

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cybermaster98
post Aug 19 2011, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Aug 19 2011, 08:10 AM)
my cheque still need 1 more working days to clear...only then i could buy another set of golds  cry.gif  cry.gif
i think gold price will raise till RM178/g on monday.i could be wrong  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
The price now is RM 179.93. World price at US$1,834. Gold is really skyrocketing. Wall Street and Europe are down.
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post Aug 19 2011, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Dackson @ Aug 19 2011, 02:42 AM)
nor wander i keep calculate wrong ...
ppl said long term gold can go RM195 it's too high ?

Anyone hv chart Nexus for GOLD in MYR ?
Just use the www.xe.com historical charts for gold in any currency. You can see prices from the past 10 years on display. But the amount is for gold ounces and not grams.
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post Aug 19 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Aug 19 2011, 09:52 AM)
uob is 177.50  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

and maybank is 179.93  mad.gif  mad.gif  sell off price is 172.60!!! rm7.33 spread  shocking.gif rclxub.gif
Yes i think we should spread the word about how Maybank is ripping ppl off and remind them not to invest with them. This is daylight robbery! vmad.gif

Thats why for my subsequent investments, im going for UOB. Never again for Maybank.
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post Aug 19 2011, 04:28 PM

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Gold keeps rising and rising. Its now trading at US$1,862/ounce and RM 182.85/g. Really crazy jump in prices!
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QUOTE(GoldChan @ Aug 19 2011, 04:27 PM)
RSI-14 indicate that it already overbrought. RSI-14 > 70, now it 80++,

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD  look at weekly chart.
U can see prices peak whenever RSI-14 > 70.
according to technical the price is too high already, if you still want to buy then buy a bit, reserve some for correction.
But then again, its clear now that gold isnt performing to any of the preset technical calculations as was the case in the past. Right now, gold has got a life of its own. Its drastic increase in prices is astounding. Many ppl expected a downward correction when prices crossed the US$1,700 barrier last week but now gold is trading at US$ 1,860.

My guess is that gold is gonna keep increasing at least till the end of the year. Economic conditions in US and Europe are getting worse by the day. Today Bank of America (largest bank in US) announced a retrenchment of more than 10,000 employees with many other banks expected to follow suit. This means that the banking sector is already bracing for the worst.
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post Aug 19 2011, 06:07 PM

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Whats the best place to buy solid gold? Which bank and what price now?
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QUOTE(jun16 @ Aug 19 2011, 06:21 PM)
what is uob price at 5.00pm?? rclxub.gif
they website only show 1.54pm price
Dont bother bout the closing prices in Malaysia today. Gold has gone parabolic! Unless something 'good' happens on Wall Street today, gold prices will be much higher on Monday. European markets are already down in trading so US is expected to go down further when it opens in 3 hrs.

If market sentiments remain, i expect gold to hit RM 185 on Monday. Its currently trading at US$1,877.

http://www.bloomberg.com/



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post Aug 20 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Dackson @ Aug 20 2011, 09:44 PM)
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Where can i buy silver? Or trade in silver just like how gold is being traded? I think we need to look at silver as the next gold.
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QUOTE(old_and_slow @ Aug 21 2011, 08:52 PM)
hmmm, after lurking in this topic for some time, i think its time for me to start to invest in gold also.

does maybank gold investment account good for complete starter like me?
Go for UOB. Spread only RM2. Maybank spread is RM7+. We should boycott Maybank. Really ripping us off! vmad.gif
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post Aug 21 2011, 11:38 PM

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Read this article well. This is the same guy who correctly predicted the 2008 slump:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-05/e...in-half-1-.html

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post Aug 22 2011, 09:42 AM

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Gold today at RM183.25 up from RM 182.85 last Friday.
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post Aug 22 2011, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(zaizu @ Aug 22 2011, 10:55 AM)
gold is gold is gold and on annd on infinitely - just branding only
by right you can and sell gold anywhere

BUT branding and advertising costs money and u have to pay for it when u buy gold at a higher price per gram and then when u sell it back at even lower price because u sell back you are selling gold - not the branding

also different shops got so many conditions - just buy gold coin or bar but cannot open and touch the gold - otherwise they will deduct a massive price on sell back

for example poh kong gold that u buy - if u sell back to poh kong they will deduct a certain percentage depending on the condition of the pacakge
- there will be terms and conditons

but if you take the same gold to habib or tomei  or other gold shops they will usually deduct a much larger percentage

so whatever brand u buy there will be a susut or buyback price or spread which is lesser than the sell price  you can see it on the website - 6%

BUT if u buy jewellery then the spread is so much more when u want to sell back

i hope this explains your query
But the problem with all these physical gold is the certification of purity. In many cases, the cirtificate given is not valid with other jewellers. So even if they accept the gold, the price is much lower.

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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Aug 22 2011, 04:12 PM)
Gold price nearing 1900.. Where u get ur info bro?
Its still at US$ 1,887 now.

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Aug 22 2011, 05:12 PM)
lol.. it reaches 1894 just now at 2pm, but come back to 188X range..lol..
European stock markets are doing well now. It will have a positive impact on Wall Street but only question would be will it be enough to erase previous losses? Read the following article.

http://money.cnn.com/

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post Aug 24 2011, 09:55 AM

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Gold dropping further! Now at US$1,850. Maybank rates also dropped to RM 179.72 from a high of RM 184.95 two days ago. Hope it goes down further then ill top up. If the price continues to drop over the next 2 days, more investors will start to get jittery and start dumping gold.
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QUOTE(nick.woocs @ Aug 25 2011, 08:48 AM)
how much lower you think it will get? RM15+?
As expected, the gold bubble has burst. I think it will drop further. Its now trading at US$1,755. Maybank price now at RM 171.83
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QUOTE(lee90 @ Aug 25 2011, 09:11 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  agree! but i think after this correction the price will goes up to $2000  biggrin.gif
so im going to UOB later on  tongue.gif
I was refering to the short term bubble which happened for the past 2 weeks. I wasnt refering to the overall long term pricing of gold. Everybody knows that gold has been on an uptrend since the past 11 years so even with this dip, there's still a general uptrend.

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QUOTE(trencher10 @ Aug 25 2011, 09:18 AM)
Don't look like a 'teeny' correction,  smile.gif  but a correction nonetheless. Dang, didn't expect the correction to go as low as this USD 1740!
Well gold investment was never meant to be short term. U cannot go into gold expecting short term gains. U may be lucky to get it at some point but dont expect the same always.

My advise now would be to wait for the gold to drop further and then load up again. I dont think the price will drop to the prices we saw at end July (RM157 per gram). So its still a rise nevertheless.
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Interesting article and associated graphs:
http://www.bullionbaron.com/2011/08/goldoi...it-heading.html

(The following article was written in Nov 2010 when gold prices were at RM 140 per gram)

Reading Dr. Jean Paul Rodrigue's Chart

Stealth Phase - "Smart money" gets in often quietly and cautiously. Prices gradually increase, but often go completely unnoticed by the general population. Larger positions are established as smart money investors start to understand the well-grounded fundamentals and realize that this asset is likely to experience significant future valuations.

Awareness Phase - Realizing the momentum many investors start bringing in additional money in and pushing prices higher. There can be a short lived sell off phase taking place as few investors cash in their first profits (there could also be several sell off phases each beginning at a higher level than the previous one). In the later stages of this phase the media starts to notice.

Mania Phase - Price rise catches everyone's attention and the public jumps in for this "investment opportunity of a lifetime". Floods of money come in creating even greater expectations and pushing prices to stratospheric levels. Fairly unnoticed from the general public caught in this new frenzy the smart money as well as many institutional investors are quietly pulling out and selling their assets to eager future bag holders. The market gradually becomes more exuberant as "paper fortunes" are made and greed sets in. At some point statements are made about entirely new fundamentals implying that a "permanent high plateau" has been reached to justify future price increases the bubble is about to collapse.

Blow-off Phase - A trigger arrives and everyone roughly at the same time realizes that the situation has changed. Confidence and expectations encounter a paradigm shift. Many try to unload their asses to a greater fool but there are few takers; everyone now expects further price declines. Prices plummet at a rate much faster than the one that inflated the bubble. Many over-leveraged bag holders go bankrupt, triggering additional waves of sales. The general public at this point considers this sector as "the worst possible investment one can ever make". This is the time when the smart money starts acquiring assets at bargain bottom prices.

So, in the rarest of rare likelihoods that gold is pursuing the path of turning into a bubble, using Dr.Rodrigue's chart, we could be staring at only the "Awareness Stage" in future.

Earlier, we noticed some smart money enter the gold market, creating big positions and using much of the declines to increase allocations. This current stage we are in looks like the Stealth Stage.

Currently, trends observed reveal a lot of institutional participation coming in - central banks are adding gold to their reserves, while institutional participants like pension funds, wealth funds are considering allocations to gold.

The interest in gold doesn't yet qualify for the mania stage, since public participation hasn't been much to speak about, and nor has the media gone gung-ho about gold being the only asset one should invest in. And contrary to bubble behavior, the increase in price has been a gradual and steady appreciation over a number of years. At the most, we just have seen some smart retail money allocate to gold considering its strong fundamentals.

If at all, this bull market is following course of being a bubble then we still are way off from reaching the new paradigm. Gold investors can continue to sing as strong fundamentals suggest that we are in a bull market which is currently nowhere close to being a bubble.



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So based on the above, i would say wait till the price drops more before loading up. This would ensure you stand a chance of a bigger profit later. Gold investment is all about timing.

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