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ozak
post Jul 2 2011, 10:13 AM

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Is it possible to lay the cable along with the electrical wire? Or share the conduit together? If not, how far should the cable lay from the electrical wire? Incase the cable have to lay along with the eletrical wire route.
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post Jul 3 2011, 09:36 AM

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After doing some research I found out that the technology of network now don't need anymore layout the LAN cable. Wireless or wired. It save some cost.

I think I exclude this network installation in my renovation list.
ozak
post Jul 3 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(wz3k @ Jul 3 2011, 09:53 AM)
ozak, not sure what u mean by "dont need anymore layout the lan cable". Can u share further? Thanks
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Sorry, I mean don't need to instal the network cable. There is already gigabit router in the market that fast enough to transfer wired or wireless. Specially for media. For wireless speed can go 300Mbps using 5ghz. While wired, you can use homeplug to link. All this cost below rm1k.
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post Jul 4 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 3 2011, 08:06 PM)
Yes, this is correct if you don't have many connection maybe good for 2 to 4 equipments if you want to achieve high speed. Wireless and Ethernet over Power/socket work in sharing a single band. The more equipments in wireless or Power plug the slower it will get.

It's not always guaranteed that you'll have the max wireless speed, and is all depend on the strength of signal.

The more equipments / computers using the network increases, the data transfer rate to each will be reduce.

If you plan to run cctv over IP, IPTV, Wireless, surfing and sharing to many device than you need to get more AP transmitter for better stability.
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My requirement is very minimum. My home have 2 person only. I think sufficient kua. hmm.gif

At the moment I m using N basic router which network to nas, media player, laptop and wireless. I able to stream from nas to media while the nas is uploading/downloading. And wifi to laptop too at the sametime. So I judge from here, it more than enough to run if I upgrade to more advance router.

The latest dual band router like linksys e series, dlink or belkin is tacker for this high wifi traffic. And if wifi is consent, you can plug a homeplug to use your existing power cable as LAN. That can run at the speed of 200Mbps.

But my bottleneck is always the ISP 2Mbps not the home network. sad.gif
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post Jul 4 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jul 4 2011, 11:04 AM)
highly doubt i need ap for the said items above as they are considered cables and accessories only. not network equipment.
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Custom tax cable for 40%. sweat.gif on top of that if your total value is over rm500, you will kena tax too.
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post Feb 23 2019, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(hayenadeblue @ Feb 23 2019, 03:24 PM)
Sorry guys for the late reply.

Below is my network rack from outside. Brand Grow, 9U, that costs me RM 535.30 (including a fan, a rack as you can see from inside).

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Inside, I'm using:
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1. Unmanaged Network Switch (TP-LINK 24P 1Gbps): RM 399.00
2. CAT6 Patch Panel, NuroMicron: RM 402.27
(the rest is not necessary as you can see I have Belkin extension and a simple NAS. You can also noticed the TM modem)

All over my house, I have 16 ports in total (6x2 ports and 4x1 port)

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My wireman charge me RM 4680.00 for the CAT6 wiring, including the piping, hacking and the wall plate, including the wiring up to the patch panel, as well as telephone line (from outside of my house to the rack, I don't think you can see it from the image).

My wireman used to do the LAN wiring. If you are hiring electrical wireman, make sure find someone for the patch panel connection. Even my wireman, they thought that the cable should be plugged in at the front of the patch panel. I asked them to redo; the cable should be terminated at the back of the panel. We as user can reconfigure simply by connecting a patch cable (CAT5e/CAT6 etc. for ethernet networking or CAT3 for telephone) to our switch or other devices. As you can see, some of ports at the patch panel I connect with RJ11 cables. That cables are connected to RJ11 splitter that connected to the phone port at the modem (I placed my router on top of the rack). This way I can connect telephones at the pre-configured ports. FYI, I hire different wireman for my 3-phase electrical wiring (as mentioned in my previous post). My point is, I want wireman that has experience in LAN wiring.

Please note that during the planning stage, I have tested Dintek brand CAT6 cable but the performance is similar to any other CAT6 cable. You need to make sure all the portion of the cable that is twisted remain twisted, not overly bent and insist that the cable must be inside of conduit. Do not simply hack your wall, lay the cable and then cover by cement. This will shorten your cable's life. Dintek is expensive that is not necessary.

My budget is just for CAT6 and CAT6a during the time is very expensive, not to mention CAT7 and I don't mind the unpopular brand for cables, patch panel (NuroMicron), wall plate (AMPNetconnect). For switch, right now unmanaged is enough for me. Just make sure it is gigabit.
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For home ? Look some serious stuff in office. blink.gif

I setup my giga network DIY. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 25 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(hayenadeblue @ Feb 24 2019, 12:34 AM)
Yup, for home. I DIY'ed my gigabit home networking since last 3 houses that I rented.

It is serious stuff. I don't like having cables at the edge of my living room connecting router to my streaming boxes in my other room, or Unifi cable from ceiling down to side of TV to connect to the modem. If in Malaysia we have houses with soft boards that easily hacked like in US, I'd DIY myself like them. And I also don't like to depends on WiFi (even AC/5.0 GHz) for my devices that capable of ethernet connectivity.
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My setup. Dump all into storeroom. Wired out to AV and pc. Phone and pad and others on wifi.

TP link 8port router, Maxis fiber, UPS and NAS.

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post Feb 25 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Nando's @ Feb 25 2019, 10:43 AM)
How's the average temperature, planning to setup CCTV recorded in store room.
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Probably 30°c-32°c. Right side have window with open door for airflow infront.

Router and modem are behind the NAS. Which the NAS have 2 running fan behind. I make use the fan to cool down.

Been running for 2yrs+.

For CCTV, makesure the recorder is not easy to take away. No use to record once the theft cart away.
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post Feb 25 2019, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hades76 @ Feb 25 2019, 11:10 AM)
So happy to see there are other people out there who decided to wire their houses. When I wired my house, my wife gave me an earful.

Now after 6 years, enjoying internet connectivity throughout the house with ease and no wifi instability even with only Cat5.
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Been wired my home for 10yrs.

But wifi is increasingly necessary in home. Home automation, phnoe and pad is on wifi without any choice.

Those high speed data transfer like AV and PC is compulsory wired. Even have wifi option.
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post Feb 26 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(hayenadeblue @ Feb 25 2019, 10:36 PM)
Nice for DIY level.  thumbup.gif Do you mind sharing how do you route the cables to your AV and PC? A picture maybe? Maybe someone browsing for "Home Renovations and Interior Design" can benefit?
Cable run in the trunking along the bottom wall. Drill the hole from the store room out to the hall.

At the AV cabinet, all the cable is behind. There is no wall LAN socket termination. All direct cable connect to the player. Player is place inside the cabinet. No wall socket or any cable visible ontop.

My PC at upper floor. So drill a hole on the ceiling and pass the cable to top floor room. Direct connect to PC.

Cost me few hundred for the trunking, drill bit, foam, pipe and the LAN cable.

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post Apr 14 2019, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 14 2019, 12:57 AM)
I am planning to network my new home which is currently still under construction. I contacted the electrical sub contractor and they are quoting me RM200 per cable (doesn't matter long or short) for Cat6. Cable brand is Legrand (haven't heard of it). I'm thinking if I were to do it myself after the key submission would it be cheaper?

I'm expected to have 10 Cat6 points.
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Pay for it. You don't want the mess after finish the work.

And it is stupid to chisel the wall again to conceal the cable after construction.
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post Apr 26 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(ular_king @ Apr 26 2019, 01:19 PM)
ozak, i thought Maxis broadband uses private IP.  How do you do ddns? remote from outside?
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Private IP?

Thought Dynamic or stastic IP ?

Anyway, I use synology provided ddns. Very easy setup and nothing change to Maxis bb.
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post Apr 26 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(ular_king @ Apr 26 2019, 02:37 PM)
What i read in the forum is MAXIS uses a private 10.x in their WAN IP.  So ddns would not work if like this.

If your synology works in ddns it means your MAXIS uses a Public WAN IP?  How long have you been using Maxis broadband?
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Been using Maxis BB since day 1. My area only have maxis BB.

I don't no what maxis IP they use. After install, it work fine till now.

What I do is register with synology for quickconnect. Than setup the quickconnect in the server.

I think after register and setup the server, server will send infor to synology server and keep track the IP.

This post has been edited by ozak: Apr 26 2019, 02:50 PM
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post Apr 27 2019, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(ular_king @ Apr 26 2019, 02:54 PM)
Easy to check, open command prompt and do a nslookup your ddns FQDN.  If its able to resolve then it means you are on a public IP.
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It said,

Default Server: Unknown
Address: fe80::b2be: 65fe:fa35:76f4
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post Apr 27 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 27 2019, 12:46 PM)
Just visit your router web portal (typically 192.168.1.254) and see what is the IP listed for IPV4 IP.
If its 10.xxx its private IP >> Call maxis req for public IP
If its 58.xxx its all good

Generally if that IP matches with the google search for "what is my IP" then its likely to be public IP; also if you can browse Lazada smoothly its likely to be public IP
If you encounter high failure rate loading lazada pages then you'd probably be on private IP
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In the router wan

Connection type : Dynamic IP
IP/mask: 10.182.x.x/x
gateway: 10.182.x.x
DNS: 58.71.x.x

Google search
our Public IPv6 is: 2001:d08:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx
Your IPv4 is: Not Detected

Everything is running fine. Server can communicate outside world. Lazada runing fine.

 

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