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Hello there!

I would like to know, has anyone here taken the MCAT before?

I'm interested in applying to liberal art colleges in the States. I'm currently sitting for SPM.

May I know do people go for liberal art colleges after SPM or do they normally go after having pre-u?

It's a little confusing cause I've seen people go right after SPM.

Hey thanks for the quick reply. 

I guess I will have to start preparing for SAT and TOEFL then.  But I guess I won't be able to make it cause some of the application closes in Jan/Feb.

So what do people usually do after their undergrad years? after graduating, going after Masters or working already?

in a nutshell,

US - 4 years undergrad
UK - 3 years undergrad

US - a lot of subjects
UK - maybe 3 or 4

US - more focus on extra curricular
UK - more focus on exam results

okay. for US, u need either SATs, ADP, or exchange program right?
but since SAT results and SPM results need to wait for results to arrive, probably won't be in time to apply for application right? SO will need to waste one year waiting for the results?

If not, do we usually use SPM trial results in the portfolio?

I heard something of a one-and-a-half-year intensive course for undergrad, anyone heard anything of it or something similar?

Haha thanks for all the great advice thus far

Hey there it's me again with more questions, hope you don't mind answering ...

Currently I have a decent SAT score(slightly >2000), and haven't take SAT II yet, I considered applying for EA / ED however more of those schools who have these offers are on CommonApp and typically the deadline for application is Nov 1 ... Any recommendation for me if I don't wanna do SAT II at all? Can I still get into one of the good unis ?

In another thread I didn't list what's my major gonna be, erm it's actually Economics I really admire people like Robert Schiller / Paul Krugman / Joseph Stiglitz reading their work and from reading many other titles written by economics journalist I find this subject way more deeper and interesting than what I learn in A-level currently.

The thing is most good unis(Yale, UChicago) are private ones and they are so expensive to attend  To begin with I don't have any scholarships yet, and my budget is likely to be around 350k for the entire study. I've been thinking about cheaper ways to go to US - 1) Go to a community college and transfer 2) Go to public unis (Wisconsin-Madison or Minnesota Twins) either directly or via transfer from another public u - and try to finish the study within 3 years if I cannot secure any scholarship next year.

Any suggestions for me who wants to save n' still go into a nice econs school? Also is A-level grades generally available for credit transfer in universities, try looking it up but to no avail.(Kinda regret doing A-levels instead of ADTP ) Next thing of course is how to look for a scholarship when public unis are relatively more stingy than their private counterparts? My friend is trying Stanford's ED and he requested no financial aid, presumably to have a higher chance of getting in, but is it advisable to place such a huge bet, since there's a legal bind on his admission ?

Well I have done my research and I knew that's the low end too, that's why I wasn't really aiming for Ivies but rather public unis. What I wanna confirm is whether that transfer from one public uni to another is simple n has higher chance than going to a community college firstly ?

The thing is my friend only thinks about getting offer first and hunting scholarship later but do you see all the stanford freshman getting corporate scholarships/ JPA? Frankly speaking I think he hasn't thought of the consequence of choosing ED thoroughly enough even though I told him the risk at stake. On the other hand, is expecting corporate scholarship/ JPA to cover the tuition fees a realistic approach?

Anyway can pls u brief me those cheaper routes to US  Or post any links here.

PS : Do you volunteer for USAPPS before ? Just curious.

There's this Southern Illinois Uni which offers in-state tuition fee to existing Sunway students, so I'm considering it. Have heard about the community colleges being overcrowded and experiencing decline in students successfully transferred. Getting in a 4-year uni is going to be hard isn't it  ? Still gotta hear more about that when the school rep comes on the following Monday for presentation @@

Again thanks a lot on your comment above. Definitely will dig up all the useful info here page by page.

thought freshmen meant 15 year olds in the US ? hehe

Nope, it is called GMMF, they promote moderation through activities and deal with social issues locally and internationally.

Great! You have the spirit! Try to convince some of your college friends to apply there as well, it is good to have people on the same boat as you. Well, I haven't heard anyone say that about the US, to each of our own I guess.

I am taking the November seating if that is what you meant.
Yeah, I never heard of it till I started college, but after a bit of digging it seems pretty popular as it is time and cost efficient.

It was more of an influence than a one-advice thing, so I don't think I can give you any insight on that.
Well, it depends. If I get my top choices it is a no-brainer, but if its UT Austin vs Uni of Melbourne, sigh, I don't know. 

All the more reason why people don't return....

As much as it pains my America-loving heart, you are right. People here in Malaysia know more about Australian and UK universities, not so for the US, unless you go to Harvard then you are fine, but if you went to Harvard there is no reason to come back here =-=
I hate people here sometimes!

I get it, I think its really sad. Those are really world class universities that bring amazing work opportunities, especially UPenn and Columbia (NYC Wall Street) UCLA (Silicon Valley). So unfair they are not getting the attention they so rightfully deserved But well, Malaysians do tend to go to UK and Aus, unless th trend breaks, it'll be like that for the longest time.

So what are your choices now at the moment?

Alright, noted! Everyone seem to have similar time frames to study for the SAT's, I hope I do get at least 2100 

My first choice is NYU Stern School of Business, sir!
I am praying to all the gods available in this world that I do get in to NYU!

Stern is amazing at networking, which would really help me when I look for summer interns and all that.
What do you mean pre-admit?

Yes, I am sure. I have done extensive research on it.

Well yes, but first of all, most west coasters would opt for Silicon Valley, next is that the abundance of investment bankers are from east coast schools. It makes a huge difference.

Yes, they are called Wall Street Target Schools.
While the location is one of my many reasons of picking NYU, it only serves a small percentage. The other school that is in NYC is Columbia, which is an Ivy, and that one is hard.

First and last men on the moon were Boilermakers, b****es!! School pride! XD

Bro, can elaborate a little more about this school pride above ? Thanks.