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TSLoneWolfz
post Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM, updated 15y ago

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Now, I am waiting for my SPM results to release. So, I want to study a Mathematics Degree. What should I do after I get my SPM result ? Look for a College which offers Mathematics Degree or a Pre-U program or ?

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post Feb 22 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(LoneWolfz @ Feb 22 2011, 08:42 PM)
Now, I am waiting for my SPM results to release. So, I want to study a Mathematics Degree. What should I do after I get my SPM result ? Look for a College which offers Mathematics Degree or a Pre-U program or ?

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Decide where you want to study the Degree than look for appropriate ways to get there.
Eg. IPTA go apply for the IPTA's Asasi/Diploma or go Matrikulai or STPM
Overseas go take A-Levels,SAM,CPU,IBDP,STPM etc.
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:53 PM

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How about if I want to study the Degree in local and maybe further study abroad, say Singapore ?
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(LoneWolfz @ Feb 22 2011, 08:53 PM)
How about if I want to study the Degree in local and maybe further study abroad, say Singapore ?
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Going for Form 6 is the best then. It's cheap, accepted by IPTAs and STPM is recognized in a lot of countries as an equivalent to A-Levels.

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TSLoneWolfz
post Feb 22 2011, 08:59 PM

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If it is not Form 6, I should go for A-levels ?
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:06 PM

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if u're bumi, ask for jpa den fly oversea like me...if ure not, A-lvl is another option(but more expensive, not if u're rich)...most impotnt thing is u shud qualified enough to do dis...
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:11 PM

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Do you mean you want to complete your undergrad here, then do postgrad overseas, e.g. in Singapore? Or, do you mean you wish to transfer to a university overseas having only partially completed your undergrad degree here?

The first option is quite simple to achieve. It would be best if you could enter one of the best public universities (i.e. the University of Malaya) as it would expedite and ease your admission into a good school overseas for your graduate studies. To do so, I think you need to do STPM.

For universities overseas, you can do either STPM or A Levels for undergraduate entry. Its excepted in most major institutions in English-speaking countries and most English-medium universities.

For the second option, this is difficult to achieve as it is less likely you can transfer (as a continuing undergraduate student) from a much lesser school to a much better one, unless you are studying a specific degree transfer-programme or external programme which allows transfer.

Normally, before all of that comes STPM/A Levels/IB.

However, certain courses (like ADP/ADTP) can facilitate transfer using pre-university credits in specific cases.
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(LoneWolfz @ Feb 22 2011, 08:59 PM)
If it is not Form 6, I should go for A-levels ?
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If your trying to get in an IPTA as a Malaysian, chances with A-Levels is quite slim. Otherwise A-Levels is good ^^
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Feb 22 2011, 09:11 PM)
Do you mean you want to complete your undergrad here, then do postgrad overseas, e.g. in Singapore? Or, do you mean you wish to transfer to a university overseas having only partially completed your undergrad degree here?

The first option is quite simple to achieve. It would be best if you could enter one of the best public universities (i.e. the University of Malaya) as it would expedite and ease your admission into a good school overseas for your graduate studies. To do so, I think you need to do STPM.

For universities overseas, you can do either STPM or A Levels for undergraduate entry. Its excepted in most major institutions in English-speaking countries and most English-medium universities.

For the second option, this is difficult to achieve as it is less likely you can transfer (as a continuing undergraduate student) from a much lesser school to a much better one, unless you are studying a specific degree transfer-programme or external programme which allows transfer.

Normally, before all of that comes STPM/A Levels/IB.

However, certain courses (like ADP/ADTP) can facilitate transfer using pre-university credits in specific cases.
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Thank you so much !! You made things clearer to me now. God bless you ! So, I have to do A-levels before I can go for a degree right ?

If I am planning to study a Mathematics Degree, is it better to take Further Mathematics too ?
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(LoneWolfz @ Feb 22 2011, 09:22 PM)
Thank you so much !! You made things clearer to me now. God bless you ! So, I have to do A-levels before I can go for a degree right ?

If I am planning to study a Mathematics Degree, is it better to take Further Mathematics too ?
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taking Further Math is not a requirement but if you want to have a taste of it why not XD see if you really love math
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:27 PM

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if im in ur shoe. form 6 would be the best choice
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post Feb 22 2011, 09:29 PM

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uhh tumpang thread, a few quick question.

1. how many years does a degree in pure mathematics take? 3-4 years?

2. Which is the more appropriate place to study this, UK/Australia/Singapore? I am pretty sure that local private universities do not offer degree in pure mathematics.

3. Is there a Master in Mathematics? Or must we branch out into other field such as applied maths or what?


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post Feb 22 2011, 09:30 PM

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I know form 6 is good but you don't know how much i hate SEJARAH !!!!! !!@%@#$@%#$%@$ and also the school life.

Yes, Hikari exactly.
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post Feb 22 2011, 10:26 PM

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Well, taking A Levels/IB/STPM means you will (with good results) be eligible for consideration for entry to many universities overseas, and be accepted to some of the best of them. Of course, other things you could do are, like I mentioned, ADP, or other Pre-Us (CPU, SAM etc, not recommended), or Foundations (not recommended), or Diplomas (not recommended).

It is much easier to gain admission into a good university in Singapore or Britain, Ireland, Australia, Hong Kong, Canada etc (I mean a good one, at least top 300 in the world or better, maybe in the top 100 in some rankings) using a recognised Pre-U such as A Levels/IB/STPM as compared to a less accepted (or less favourable) Pre-U/Diploma. Foundations are often specific and highly limiting. Since you have high aspirations, avoid these restrictive courses. Transfer Programmes are more flexible than Foundations, but they are only good if you know where you could and/or want to go (i.e. the specific school or group of schools).

Like some people said (but this I know nothing about), you need STPM to enter local public universities - so take A Levels if you believe you'll head overseas for your degree.

You should take Further Mathematics. Mind you, the only undergraduate degrees I have ever seen that require A Level Further Mathematics or equivalent are Mathematics and joint/mixed degrees with Mathematics (i.e. Mathematics and Statistics or Mathematics with Statistics, Mathematics and Statistics for Finance, Mathematics with Computing etc, but not Statistics or Computing on their own). Although, I have only ever seen this requirement at less than 4 schools.
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post Feb 22 2011, 11:36 PM

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Alright, LightningFist. Seriously thank you so much !
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QUOTE(LoneWolfz @ Feb 22 2011, 09:30 PM)
I know form 6 is good but you don't know how much i hate SEJARAH !!!!! !!@%@#$@%#$%@$ and also the school life.

Yes, Hikari exactly.
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Form 6 have sejarah? or you mean pengajian am?
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post Feb 22 2011, 11:48 PM

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Just curious, what job can you get from mathematics degree?
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post Feb 23 2011, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(zeeyang @ Feb 22 2011, 09:29 PM)
uhh tumpang thread, a few quick question.

1. how many years does a degree in pure mathematics take? 3-4 years?

2. Which is the more appropriate place to study this, UK/Australia/Singapore? I am pretty sure that local private universities do not offer degree in pure mathematics.

3. Is there a Master in Mathematics? Or must we branch out into other field such as applied maths or what?
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1. Depends on the university.

2. Indeed local private uni doesnt offer pure math because there is no demand for it. However, in most major IPTA, you get to study pure math from B.Sc. to Ph.D. If you ask for the appropriate place, i would suggest Cambridge or MIT. But it is also quite obvious you dont get into these uni easily.

3. Yes. You get to do Masters, Doctorates in maths. Maths itself consists of a very huge research area. In pure math, you get to do research in partial differential equation, number theory, group theory, statistics, geometry and many many many many many more. Make sure you are really interested, else you are going to suffer later on.


Added on February 23, 2011, 12:14 am
QUOTE(VengenZ @ Feb 22 2011, 11:48 PM)
Just curious, what job can you get from mathematics degree?
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most math graduate did learn programming so some of them became programmer.
you can work in bank, logistics and other finance related industry as well.
Or, you can just go on and study for masters and phd and do research in math!

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post Feb 23 2011, 12:37 AM

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Be sure to have the budget of your studies drafted out, both Pre-U and subsequently degree.
Look up how much does it cost for a Pre-U, how much does it cost for a degree in <insert college/country name>.

One needs to know that STPM is a lot cheaper than other Pre-U offered in IPTS, and the tuition fee of a degree in IPTA is a lot cheaper than IPTS as well. One should assume he/she fails every scholarships applied and yet still have enough finance to cover their studies, from Pre-U to the end of degree. PTPTN might be a viable option for local private studies, but to have about 10% of your salary sucked off by PTPTN right after you start your first job would be very discouraging as well.
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post Feb 28 2011, 09:14 PM

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Alright. thank you for all the replies ! I am no longer lost !

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