i just heard the intrauterine fertilization. thanks for the info bro..

i though people only do in vitro fertilization only..

also what u mean by 'it needs about 3 cycles for a successful pregnancy' ?

I mean the success rate of IVF is about 30%. That means that the first time u try, u got a 30% chance of being successful. If you try twice about 60%.

So in order to guarantee success, most ppl will have a successful pregnancy in the most 3 times. Some are lucky enough to get it the first time

ic, so whent the third time, the success rate have become to 90%..

yeah.....but some ppl are lucky to get it on the first time. Depends on how lucky you are i suppose.

all in GOD hand..

If you're over 30+ ... Its kinda hard for you to be pregnant . Due to various reasons ... So have baby before your wife / you turns 30

actually no. to a certain extent fertility declines when u age but this probably applies when u are above 35, below that should be fine.

yeah, 30 is still good for breed..

Ohh okay ... I think this is an old news ... nowadays more fertile perhaps ?

hehe..no offence bro, we re just discussing here..

definitely!
abstinence is the best way hehe

one of my fren works as a health officer..
he told me..he hve seen bodies of people died terribly becoz of STDs..

due to AIDS??

I don't think is AIDS ... STD , AIDS all these can be pass on from making love . Wanna be safe ? Just make love to the person you love

usually std's do not mutilate your body....lolz. thats just some scary stories ppl make up to stop young ppl form having sex. But you can die from an STD no doubt about that, so be safe.

AIDS can be a scary thing because it reduces your body's immunity and thus make you susceptible to infections or cancers that normal people would be immune or less susceptible to. This includes some rare skin cancers, which probably is the disfigurement u are talking about.

and also make sure that the person you love is free from STD, AIDS

You've got the first part right, but the next part absolutely wrong.

I've done studies in this field so let me explain a little.

First and foremost, you do realise that there are millions of sperms which are ejaculated into the vagina which travels up to the ovum which is in the uterus. Along the way, many of them fail to reach because they are weaker and may be problematic. So this is the natural filter that God placed to ensure only the BEST sperm will survive and fertilize the egg. Now, if you were to get a semen sample and pick your sperm, no human would ever know which is the best and which are problematic. This is a big problem of the field. And this is where you get risk of putting a weak sperm which may have congenital abnormalities into the ovum.

Now next thing is "it needs about 3 cycles for a successful pregnancy" is nonsence. In the past, people mixed the ovum with 3 sperms and hope the best will form a succesful child. However, because of the recent advancement, there is increased outcome and risk of triplets and twins, so now they only inject with 1 sperm because there is a high success rate. There is no need for doing this "aboue 3 times" to get a successful pregnancy.

Hope this helps, no offence to lynxs

dude, for 1, you are right about the natural selection process, but even still, in IUI, that still does happen. Thats why its called intra uterine fertilization. Its not IVF where you select a sperm and an ovum and allow them to mix on a petri dish. Adequate amounts of semen and sperm are injected into the uterus and it travels towards the fallopian tube to fertilize the ovum in the body of the famale. So the weak ones do die off, the ones that swim backwards or swim sideways never get there and only the fittest survive. There is no evidence that IUI increases the rate of congenital abnormalities. It is probably that women who attempt IUI may already be in advanced age and thus may already be subject to an increased risk, whatever the method used.

Second, 3 cycles for a successful pregnancy is not absolutely rubbish. This is for IVF not IUI as above, because in IUI you have no problems with regards to implanting an embryo, nature takes its course. By the way. If your read carefully, i did not ever mention placing 3 fertilized embryos into the woman at once. And you do not insert 3 sperm into one ovum. Thats just weird. NO. You allow sperm and ova to mix on plenty of petri dishes and only one sperm will fertilize one ova. Then three to four fertilized embryo's are extracted. Only one is implanted into the woman at any one time. If you implant more than one, there is a risk of multiple pregnancy, but responsible docs only implants one at any one time, the rest are frozen for future use.

The woman is primed with hormones prior to implantation and then the fertilized embryo is implanted. However, per embryo implanted, the chance that it will complete gestation and come out as a baby is only 30%. In 60% of cases it may abort. Thus mathematical sense would tell you that if you want to guarantee successful pregnancy, you would have to have 3 cycles, but like i said, some people get it right the first time. If it fails the first time, the woman would again have to undergo the same process of priming and implantation of the second embryo, again the chance is 30%. and so on. It is time consuming and may take up many months.

So you need about 3 cycles and each cycle only implants one embryo so you cant get a twin or a triplet, unless the initial embryo itself splits to form identical twins, the rate of which is similar to a natural pregnancy.

Gosh, you've got the basics wrong and you dont even know what you're talking about, albeit the confidence you have. It's such a waste of time explaning to you, but for the benefits of others reading, I shall just leave a few important point for others to pick up.

IUI & IVF, this basics are clearly misunderstood by you.

Quote from you:
"Thats why its called intra uterine fertilization. Its not IVF where you select a sperm and an ovum and allow them to mix on a petri dish."

IUF? Intra uterine fertilization? That's new. Anyway, it's IUI, Intra uterine insemination. And IUI is injecting sperms into the uterus and hope they fertilize. So obviously this has an extremely high failure rate because that's the natural process of males ejaculating inside and still fail to get the women pregnant.

Therefore, the shift is towards IVF. NO way people mix the sperms and ovum in dishes anymore. They inject the sperm into the ovum! And that's called ICSI (Intracytoplasmic sperm injection). The conventional way is not WEIRD. It has been practise and is still practised by many hospitals whereby they inject 2-3 sperms into the ovum. That increases the chance of pregnancy because 1-2 might fail to fertilize the ovum. Nowadays, this is minimize and injecting only 1 will do. This is a fact that has been going on, and for you to not know this means your basic is -poof-, non existance.

From where I come, we have CME with video presentations and international speakers briefing us through this. From where you come, it's all textbook and undergrad knowledge. Ego is a point, which I'm sure you'll have more to say. However, go read in more detail before you reply. Then at least I'll have things to agree with you, and it'll benefit readers here!

Plus, these stuff are not really related to STD. So be careful what the moderators might say! Adios

i agree!

the worst thing is that a lot of people who carry STDs don't even know it. there is no test for HPV in men so even if there test results are clean, the woman they have sex with can still get HPV from them.

Hehe, correct

Well, just to let you who loves to visit ayam2 and itik2 out there, better watch out.

1. No such thing as safe sex, HIV/STDs can be passed even through condoms due to the micron nature.
2. Pubic hair to pubic hair cross
3. Oral sex and kisses (Herpes, warts, TB, and why not HIV? A prostitute were to perform oral sex on an AIDS carrier, and then later to you via her lung and throat, inner molar and palate tissue)

Imagine now the number 1 AIDS population in the world, africa's african black (no racist ok) now pop out in KL especially and have sex with the local ayam2 and itik2. Imagine the chain reaction? If you guys were to find out the real statistics of the AIDS carrier on a DAILY BASIS, regret or proud? XD

Best way is to get a steady mate or love