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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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keith_hjinhoh
post Apr 6 2011, 11:42 AM

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My view:

China, Australia and Asian country will increase the interest rates in this month or next quarter in order to curb the ever increase pressure of inflation. The increase in the interest rates will directly increase the cost of borrowings. Buyer who do not have the capability to serve the ever increase housing installment will forced to sell off their unit at discount. Hopefully by the end of the year, we will be able to see the bubble softened (but not break completely).

Hints :
1. CIMB increase interest rates but subsequently reversed. (In other words: interest rates will increase in this or next quarter, it won't be prolonged)

2. Companies that have high gearing actively proposing right issues. (Prevent the increasing borrowing cost impact the company's financial position and cash flows)

Feel free to comment!
keith_hjinhoh
post Apr 6 2011, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(airline @ Apr 6 2011, 11:42 AM)
Serdang property also can goreng from 180k to rm350k
Have to work harder to find hidden gems
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Haha, broker and loan agent find most money in these two years brows.gif brows.gif

I've seen many of them changing cars and so on.

Have you save any money for rainy days?

I see government is under pressure to increase interest rates and curb the high household debts to prevent the party from game over.

Mind to share your view?


Added on April 6, 2011, 11:50 am
QUOTE(jib3000 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:14 AM)
yup.. but the figure reported does not reflect the overall market sentiment in addition the property price are still not coming down to more sensible figure..
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It doesn't happen over night. It takes at least 6 month to a year in order to come down. Most people still have the holding power. But not until they lost their capacity to serve the installment.

It will come down end of this year. But bear in mind, my view is on general property market.

There still maybe some speculations on the property around the proposed MRT areas. Prices around these areas maybe still stubborn by the end of this year.

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post Apr 7 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(belialjo @ Apr 7 2011, 11:20 AM)
i believe in order for price drop of 30-50% to happen, there would have to be a pretty big crisis like 97, which will result in recession in the country. and recession will impact all across the board, those that cannot afford to buy a home pre-recession, would they be able to during recession? with the risk of job loss during recession so much higher, even if the prices drop by 50%, i believe it would b a much scarier time than now. how would make it any better to buy a home later?
the other scenario to result in a 50% drop in price is a riot after GE, in which everyone stand to lose from it. hmmm....pretty complicated
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Not for those home buyer that has been saving for all these years to own these unit. I'm preety sure there many cash rich buyer out there.
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post Apr 7 2011, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 7 2011, 01:49 PM)
Who were the voters? If people from the property industry or developers then of course the answer will be 'price gonna increase'. Typical!
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nod.gif nod.gif Exactly, none of them were house buyer tongue.gif

But these maybe true for proposed MRT area.

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post Apr 7 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:47 PM)
One thing we need to rethink.....if property prices heading south, how far it will go from current level? 1km=10%, 2km=20%, and so on so.

For references, from 2008 till 2011 April, property prices in the selected prime location already hit up 30% - 60%.

so are we expecting it will go down to 50% or more? or 5% down from the current level and then shooting up again 10%/20% or more?

kekeke..who got crystal balls?
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A drop 50% is almost impossible, period. Unless our economy is hampered by great depression.

I'd say a gradual drop of 10%-20% from now till end of the year is more realistic.

Those who are hoping for 50% drop, you can continue to dream on. Or Bukit Beruntung perhaps? hmm.gif


Added on April 7, 2011, 8:04 pm
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:52 PM)
Hmm...not a good example la....if you do not want to eat durian, you still got plenty of choices e.g manggo/apple/peach/etc to fill your stomach.

if you did not want to buy house/apartment/condo/flat/lcflat because of expensive, then you might need to consider buying sleeping bag/camping shelters to cover your head.

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You don't need to buy. You can always rent it icon_rolleyes.gif

When property is booming, it's always cheaper to rent instead of buy icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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post Apr 7 2011, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:35 PM)
exactly
if the buyer's requirement are:
- MUST be DSL,
- MUST be located in prime location
- MUST be 20 min from KL city
- MUST be freehold
- MUST be NEW
- and the MUST list continues...

the buyer can always continue to pray and wait for property price to drop, while there are people who are not so picky already buying, flipping, receiving rental income
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Haha... No wonder the price of the property is up, up and up...

I wonder what would happened when the game is over..

Property broker and banker has been taking a lot of advantage from the bubble currently.. brows.gif brows.gif
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post Apr 8 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 8 2011, 08:13 AM)
But on the basis of capital appreciation, established & mature areas like TTDI, Bandar Utama, Bangsar, etc will always hold their prices.
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This statement is flaw. They maybe able hold their price (capital guaranteed) but not capital appreciate tongue.gif
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post Apr 9 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Apr 9 2011, 03:46 PM)
Factors that will cause property prices to depreciate: war, calamity and shrinking population (not in my lifetime). I don't see any of these factors happening anytime soon.
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Is this absolute factor?

We have seen 60% drops of housing prices in the states, but neither these were true..
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post Apr 9 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 9 2011, 04:39 PM)
US property theory cannot be applied in local mkt.
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Why?

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post Apr 11 2011, 10:22 PM

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Well most of the inflated property price nowadays have rental yield <5%.

This is utmost unreasonable return, with large capital outlay required, low liquidity and high maintenance.

Bear in mind, the +-5% rental yield doesn't even take in the maintenance cost of condo / maintenance cost of the property.
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post Apr 11 2011, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Veda @ Apr 11 2011, 10:28 PM)
Properties in Singapore and Penang island have much lower rental yield compared to Klang Valley for many years before the recent price surge. But property prices there did not crash, did they?
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I'm not familiar with property in Sg or Penang, therefore, I would not want to comment on that.

But having said that, rent is better than buy outright atm IMHO.
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post May 9 2011, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ May 9 2011, 03:07 PM)
I have same thought like when I bought my first house with my gf. But in few years your salary will increase, properly double or triple or quadruple of you earn now. It is not going to be a problem, I believe probably in one or two years time you gonna enjoy same lifestyle again ...
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LOL! What if shits happened? We will see foreclosure sooner or later...

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