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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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post Mar 6 2011, 06:16 PM

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For those who want to buy property, please pull handbrake first. C wat will going to happen on 11/03 & 20/03 of Arab Saudi. If Saudi government cannot handle the case properly....it will possible to cause economic crisis happen again......

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/195584?tid=2
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post Mar 6 2011, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 6 2011, 07:16 PM)
He..he sounds very familiar, when US crisis, some people gave same advise brows.gif
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Haha...i am not frighten everyone....since there is the chance to cause the property drop....why not wait 4 few more month to c the trend. tongue.gif

Jz a few min ago.....news said BN win the 2 elections.....this will speed up the general election for the country, because gomen will try to avoid uncertain situation...where the oil price will shoot to the history high.

As we know after the election, gomen can do many things.....petrol, electric and etc will up....up.....up....somemore dun forget the GST ....coming soon oso....


Added on March 6, 2011, 9:04 pmSorry want to ask is the "gomen" = government ?

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post Mar 7 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Mar 7 2011, 09:49 AM)
haha
u tot i am rich like those investors / speculators here meh?
i also a salary earner only
and also doing part time jobzzzzz
if price really drop
then i rugi my hard earn $$$, which earn with sweat and blood...

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Haha......since the property start to move since mid 2009 until end 2010, major of KV property already up 30 to 70%. I think this few months will be stagnant stage.

Normally the market needed sometime to adsorb the high price, before go to another high. As long as no buyer to follow the high price who set by speculators....the price will remain in stagnant until some buyers make transaction on the high price and price will continue to move.

Actually, the market price is not decided by seller......eventually is buyer him/herself. When we are scolded all speculators, better ask yourself first lah.

Since it is fall to stagnant stage, wat 4 not wait 4 few more month....maybe the magic of "Arab Saudi" will help u save 10-20% of your money...neh biggrin.gif

jz blak-blak only.... tongue.gif
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post Mar 8 2011, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 8 2011, 09:55 PM)
Only for price between Rm100K to RM220k
Little on overall, except properties below Rm220k may be snapped up by speculators.  tongue.gif

For prime area, or any prime adjacent, I can't see any property with RM250K below.
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There are a lot of house/apartment at many state still below 220k.....

This program is not 4 us who stay in KV or Penang or JB.
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post Mar 11 2011, 05:19 PM

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Do you think 2012 end of the world??? No point to discuss property up/down anymore....haha.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/world/a...agnitude-quake/
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post Mar 15 2011, 12:26 PM

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Nikkei down 13% today.....do you think property will follow...haha?
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post Mar 16 2011, 05:04 PM

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I help my friend looking a property, Jz flip through Iproperty site and filter KL area and within 3 days post.....amazing that 5725 were responded...
let say average selling 800k per unit...

5725 * 800k = 4.58B

Wooo.... r we malaysian hv this buying power to absord all this property???

Dun forget is only KL wt 3 days post...how about a week, a month & 3 months or another place like selangor? rclxub.gif



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post Mar 17 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Mar 17 2011, 10:49 AM)
election.. faster come..
after election.. there will be alot of super project and everything increase/decrease...
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Election for Sarawak will happen on April... tongue.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 17 2011, 06:02 PM)
japan, a 3rd largest world econ will definitely need to reconstruction the township within 2-3 years. (jsut like kobe town). japan construction is dead in the past 10-20 years. now will be a big pull for the building  materials. it is unlike Aus flood, Indonesia and China ulu ulu 's quake etc
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how to build, the land was contaminated. sad.gif
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post Mar 18 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Mar 18 2011, 09:15 AM)
no matter how the radiation will subside/(isotop will decap very fast) after  a short time period. all buildings including factory need to rebuild again. all business need to back to usual, dun forget Japan is no2  largest global economy , they cant afford to stall eg mitsubishi, sumitomo etc. the demand of building materials will shot up this 1-3 years and force materials price to go up. so be prepare house price will not come down within 3 years. strong yen is good for them as they need to import lot of materials within this rebuild period.
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Haha, r u sure the radiation will subside and land can be reused very fast?

I dun know how is the radiation control and how is going to clear it off, but as ppl like me born in bukit merah area, i know very well that is no so easy to clear it off.

The case of Bukit Merah happen in 198+, and factory close down at 1994 as ppl win the case at high court. Initial gomen claim that all under control, but a lot of expect from japan & german give the different answer, it is exist the comfort level.

From the factory close down until today around 25+ yrs, the clearing of the bahan kimia still in progress, some area still isolate no around ppl to go in.
So i very clear that the japan area which was contaminated cannot be so fast rebuild unless they move to another area.


Yes, definitely the materials price will go up and cause cost of property go up too, but it doesn't mean that property price will go up crazy. The property price is very depending of market demand. If the demand going down due to ppl not afford to purchase high price property, if will cause the property market slow down - stagnant - go down, and property recession will be happen and u will c a lot of abandoned project anywhere, especially the new launched project with sky price.

That's y recently why gomen still maintain the BLR rate and implement the 220k scheme to keep the power to market to continue rolling, even our inflation is high.
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post Mar 21 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ivanachang @ Mar 21 2011, 02:13 PM)
millions homes are usually brought by those not working in Malaysia, so there are omitted for census, tax or statistic records

mostly are people who is working in US,UK,AUS,HK,SG where the property and currency is much higher then at home

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Yup...totally agreed.

There is a certain group of ppl earning million yearly (but not work in malaysia). smile.gif

Just talk about my friend sister, work in US company based on singapore. The whole package of offer is S$720k/year, contract 2 year.

Recently, just buy a subsale house for her family in desa pack city double story 1.28m.

For me.....sad to say loh.... cry.gif

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post Mar 21 2011, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ivanachang @ Mar 21 2011, 04:18 PM)
i heard more stories like this again and again ...

some is work and buy million homes for self / parents ...

some work and married rich and buy homes back as vacation home ...

some make a lot in oversea and buy home back in Penang, Melaka or KL for retirement ...

one two million after conversion is like nothing for these people  tongue.gif
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Haha....it is not a story....it real happen....i been her house b4, decoration amazing ......not like double story house.......350k renovation cost + furniture .

Buy thing like eat vegetable.....1 thing i cannot tahan.....buy 2 basikal at 50k.....crazy lah......siao....
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post Mar 24 2011, 03:23 PM

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Do you think that implement new leading rules for banks in Q3 2011 will impact property market?

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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post Mar 25 2011, 02:32 PM

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國行強調通膨和熱錢是經濟兩大隱憂,但經濟學家認為,預料國行維持升息步調,並讓馬幣持續有序趨強,不會過度干預。

國行認為,下半年經濟增速加快,可能令通膨壓力加大,預計全年通膨將介於3至3.5%,但基於經濟成長放緩局勢將延續,大馬研究預見短期利率上調可能性不大,料利率截至今年9月將維持2.75%水平。

“但是,今年經濟活動可能嚮往穩定利率環境,我們不排除國行在下半年上調利率25個基點。”

豐隆研究指出,國行在成長和通膨問題上,以經濟成長為優先考量,料將透過溫和調整利率方式管理通膨風險,全年利率僅上調25基點,其中7月升息機會最高,除非中東動亂和日本地震海嘯對經濟帶來影響而提前在5月升息。

“同時,國行嘗試向市場傳遞強勁馬幣未必是壞事的訊息,我們相信強勢馬幣趨勢將獲得經常賬盈餘龐大、利率和成長差異,以及中東短期資金流轉向大馬等回教國避險,預計馬幣兌美元今年將升值至2.95到3.05之間。”

但益資利研究認為,雖然國行透露“寬鬆程度可能需要進行調整”,卻對升息守口如瓶,但以現有2.75%隔夜政策利率(OPR)來看,可能在下半年邁入負利率時代,相信下半年將兩度升息25個基點,將利率升至3.25%。

達證券表示,基於良好經濟活動將支撐就業市場,相信全年勞工市場將延續“全面就業”榮景,2011年失業率維持在3至3.5%,料下半年通膨壓力將隨強勁內需升溫,預見國行將三度升息,將利率升至3.5%水平。

與此同時,聯昌研究指出,國行在未來6個月也可能再度調高法定儲備金率(SRR),從2%提高至4%,以積極管理游資過剩風險問題。1%的SRR可吸納游資70億令吉。


Added on March 25, 2011, 2:45 pmWoww......OPR will hike to 3.25 end of this year....prepare urself


Bank Negara may raise inflation forecast to 3pc-4pc

Credit Suisse says the new forecast would be around 3 per cent to 4 per cent, assuming the government hikes fuel prices two more times - in June and November


Bank Negara Malaysia may announce a higher inflation forecast for 2011 when it releases its latest annual report today.

Credit Suisse economist Wu Kun Lung said the new forecast would be around 3 per cent to 4 per cent, up from 1.7 per cent in 2010.

He expects the Consumer Price Index, the inflation barometer, to rise to 3 per cent by mid-2011 and hover between 3 per cent and 3.5 per cent in the second half of the year.

"This is assuming the government hikes fuel prices two more times - in June and November, by a similar magnitude as last year's hikes."

Bank Negara appeared to be more concerned about inflation in its monetary policy statement in March, noting that "the degree of monetary accommodation may be reviewed given the sustained growth in the economy and risks to inflation".

However, given industrial production and exports remain well below pre-crisis levels, he expects the central bank to only resume rate hikes in the second half of the year.

"We expect BNM to resume its rate hikes in the third quarter, but it could be earlier (in May) if the government hikes retail fuel prices in the first half amidst a strong pick-up in domestic growth."

Malaysian consumers are less affected by higher global commodity prices as fuel and essential food items are subsidised.

He expects the Overnight Policy Rate (OPR), now at 2.75 per cent, to be hiked to 3.25 per cent by the end of 2011 and 3.5 per cent by the end of 2012.

The statutory reserve requirement ratio, which was raised to 2 per cent in March, could also be incrased further.

Credit Suisse is keeping its 5.6 per cent economic expansion target for 2011.

Higher commodity prices should boost incomes for farmers and companies in the plantation and oil and gas sectors, which should in turn lead to increased consumption and investment.

A 10 per cent rise in palm oil prices would add about 0.3 percentage points to Malaysia's real gross domestic product (GDP) growth, while a 10 per cent rise in oil prices or rubber prices would add around 0.2 percentage points to growth.

"Although some commodity prices, namely palm oil and rubber, have softened in recent weeks, their prices remain well above the average in 2010. Barring a sharp drop, we think the overall impact on 2011 growth should remain positive."

The agricultural and mining sectors together accounted for about a quarter of Malaysia's GDP in 2010.



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post Mar 25 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Mar 25 2011, 03:17 PM)
according to many sifu here
no matter tsunami, earthquake, 70% LTV, GE, war, crude oil price surge...
nothing will make property price down but up up up
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Haha, maybe for u and me only few property not much impact, but for the speculators who have 20 ~ 50 units are different story.

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Current
Laon amount 400k
interest : blr -2.3
tenure : 30
monthly : RM2444

When blr hike to 7, monthly 2677, different is around RM200

For you maybe 3 units only extra 600/month still can tahan, but for 30units is around 6000/month....u think they will tahan how long.

Normally, they will review their capability to cut down financial burden, they will start to sell the property below 5% to 20% below market price to let go their unit fast (eventually, they didn't lost in the property game, only less profit). So, because of lower price selling, u will c wat will call property correction/adjustment happen in the market.

What i mentioned "prepare urself" is not mean ask urs run away from property, is mean who are waiting the property to drop please prepare urself to buy lor. With the property 500k with -15% discount is a lot oh....

If Blr really hike on 7% end of this year.....next year is a good time for urs to grab ......

just 2 remimbi. tongue.gif

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post Mar 29 2011, 09:41 AM

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Our housing deputy minister said that Government is no way to control property price, how is your think?

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/159919
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post Mar 29 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 29 2011, 10:05 AM)
Of coursi, our dear ministers, Datuk-datuk & politicians are the giant speculators, they are not like you and me, owning 0-10 properties, but hundreds, they are the group who worry the most on price dropping brows.gif
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Yaloh so sad to all poor malaysian, later oni can rent "room" for them......i think is the time to let them "fall from the horse".

Boycott to buy condo/Service apartment > 250k, single storey > 300k, Dbl story > 500k, Superlink House > 750k, Semi D > 1m and bungalo > 2.5m laugh.gif
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post Apr 5 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Apr 5 2011, 02:31 PM)
if not too far i'm ok geh.. like last time i'm eyeing z resident..
too bad newly launched also sky rocketing.. haaaih...  daaaaaam those developer..
and blame myself for not having high salary  cry.gif
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Bro, Wat is ur budget....ah...
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post Apr 5 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Apr 5 2011, 04:09 PM)
350~400 Max.. 400 is kinda susah for me liao.. if can i plan get around 350k++ alil bit more   T_T
my sqrft must around 1200  .. tats why susah for me  T_T  too small i dun like..
haih.. was aiming residence 8..  z .. sutera maya.. all out of my budget  :'(
all cheap one kena sapu.. dang.. blame i tak kenal insider for developer or dun have any relatives in construction..
so freakin unfair.. 1st day launch.. all nice one kena sapu liao..  haaaaaaaaaaaaaaih
meng fuuuu ahhh ~~~~
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Haha...nowadays 350k...oso cannot kenot buy property...so sad... cry.gif

Y u didn't consider OUG Parklane....still can get below 300k.....

or OG height....Bukit OUG Condo....all around that area.....

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post Apr 5 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(CKHong @ Apr 5 2011, 04:26 PM)
OUR parklane..  my own fault.. i dun like it.. 4k units..  sad.gif
bukit OUG is subsale rite ?
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Yes, Bukit OUG Condo is subsale......same location with KR1, ZR and Rainz

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