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Financial Are property prices going to drop? V2, The heated debate continues

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CKHong
post Jun 27 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 27 2011, 02:26 PM)
That wont happen in prime & matured areas. That is just wishful thinking. I think renting a property is always a waste as only the landlord profits. Anybody choosing to rent while waiting for the market to drop is just wasting their time and their money.

Just imagine this scenario. Say somebody rents an apartment for RM 1500 per month for 2 years hoping for the property prices to stabilise then. In that 2 years, the rental expenditure would have been RM 36,000. That is money out of his pocket and into the pocket of the landlord. But in 2 years time, does he actually think prime area property prices will be RM 36K or more lower??

Prime areas have not dropped in the pricing (generally). In bad times it would stagnate but waiting for a price drop in my opinion is just wishful thinking.
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it's either u pay the money to the investor/landlord or u pay the money to the bank.. its just the same.
let say u get a subsale, borrow 350k from the bank. BLR - 2.4 = 4.2%
350k * 4.2% = 14700. [just the interest charged by bank]

with the inflation rate in bolehland keep increasing > electric naik, diesel naik , fish naik
after election > confirm petrol naik, then macam macam naik..
properties also naik till so gila
veli hard eh...


Added on June 27, 2011, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(sampool @ Jun 27 2011, 02:33 PM)
that person must be rich man loh RM1500 rent a apartment... fully furnish (with frezeer/air-cond/washing machine)?
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lol agreed.. apartment RM1500 per month.. its kinda high end.. i read ur comment only realise it..
in my place.. can rent a decent condo liao smile.gif


Added on June 27, 2011, 2:45 pm
QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jun 27 2011, 02:36 PM)
general 2-storey terrace houses in PJ (old old old one) are renting at not less than 1700 per month. >.<"
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have around 5 rooms rite ? smile.gif
if divide the room and share among housemate..
still consider quite affordable for those who choose to rent rather than purchase a subsale

This post has been edited by CKHong: Jun 27 2011, 02:45 PM
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 27 2011, 03:25 PM)
Paying a bank is the same as paying landlord??? Why? At the end of the tenure, your landlord gonna give u his house or condo is it? Common la my friend. U pay the bank at least ure paying for something that can become yours.

I meant condo la. Focus on the main point not on a single word.  vmad.gif
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hmm.. sorry if i offended u.. as i calculated there, its just mainly the interest charged from bank.. if u really pay for it.. it will be >RM100~300 based on how long ur loan repayment period
If genuine buyers able to pay the bank repayment.. please go get ur dream house..
as for me.. renting currently cost me 420 .. included electric, water, internet, doesn't have to pay the maintenance fee's, currently nearer to my working place [condo]
after 3 years.. the prop i bought is built and i starts to pay the monthly installment...
i counted for worst case scenario.. [assume my electric bill is RM150, water RM50, internet RM100]
Solely on my part.. i have to pay 1600 [cover the loan + maintenance + water, electric , internet] - with the help of my gf paying as well..
but thats 3 years ahead.. which i think i can afford to pay it [trusting myself can get such increment in the next 3 years, job hopping]
So if you're able to tackle with the monthly $$... pls do get one for your own stay..
If for those who buy subsale , pls do some calculation as once u buy it.. u have to start pay the bank repayment..


QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 27 2011, 03:29 PM)
The only prices which are ridiculous are the prices of the new launches. Prime areas have been growing steadily for the past 10 years. Who asked u to buy new launches? I have always said this and im gonna say it again. FOCUS ON SUBSALE PROPERTIES NOT NEW LAUNCHES WHERE OWNER DOESN'T REQUEST FOR JACKUP PRICE TOO RIDICULOUS.

Buying a property in the right area will get you excellent capital appreciation. So dont be foolish and claim that to avoid paying banks interest so u gonna rent. You will always be renting and u wont have anything at the end of the day. The only person that benefits will be the landlord. Trust me.
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let me correct your statement.. it's correct that, new launch price is ridiculous.. thanks to those developers.. but as new launch price is high, subsale will try to sell higher than the market price [owner greed]
its like.. new launch at Area X .. RM360 per square feet.. developer X.. subsale near Area X.. same developer X.. owner request for RM340 per square feet where market value [evaluation from bank] RM300 per square feet.

Buying a property in the right area will get you excellent capital appreciation > let say investor bought a unit.. after VP.. it appreciate 80%.. he sells it.. how much more appreciation will the 2nd buyers get ? cause its quite near the peak already.. don't forget.. let say 2nd buyer gets it.. and then wait for 2~3 years and it appreciate 30%.. he sell it.. lawyer fee's, macam macam fee's he have to pay.. don't forget the first 2~3 years he paid the bank for the interest.. how much left for the 2nd buyers get to profit ? unless the appreciation is high.. else 2nd buyer doesn't get much profit..

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post Jun 27 2011, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jun 27 2011, 04:00 PM)
one of my friends is the opposite thinking..haha..

in 2010, he alone already bought 3 properties (all new condos; two undercon; one completed and rented out) worth a total of 1.5mil

prior to 2010, he owned 3 apartments (now these apartments are rented out)

Now, he ask me to look for him another one for investment. (anyway he is not in Malaysia now)
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he falls in the clever investor group smile.gif so nice.. by the time he paid all to the bank.. he can come back msia.. just collecting rental...
how nice.. rclxms.gif

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