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Bobby C
post Apr 25 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 25 2011, 05:09 PM)
That's just an example of tax evasion though, not that Malaysians are poor. I don't think Malaysians in the Klang valley are poor. Many are businessmen and almost everyone has side income that isn't taxed.
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You are quite right, even if kena near max 27% tax also nothing much to shout if u ever see how businessmen wallop properties aft properties. Typical employees like to shout in forum but sky is actually limit. In fact, employees are all just kulis, if you can see how your tax money kena wallop by conment sad.gif

Just wonder percentage of self-employed vs employed. 5%? 2%?

Yup, else where got RM40 mil palace of Dtk Z, RM15 mil place of formal MB?..

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post Apr 26 2011, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 25 2011, 11:35 PM)
What we must choose to be either bull or bear?
It is about personal level only, it did not mention the corporate level.
Lot of wealthy person has wealth under company level.
In fact, corporate/company tax rate is lower than personal tax rate.
Corporate tax - 25%
Personal max tax - 26%

Eg.
You can be a company CEO that own 99.9% of the company, you can have 50k annual remuneration, but company is earning millions of profit.

While holding properties under company potential has more advantage compared to individual holding, in term of expenses incurred, tax relief etc.

Has you seen an apartment or a project, a company bought 8-10 unit or almost whole floor or 2?
I had seen before.
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Yup, tat's what some experts do when the elevate to the next level, form a Sdn Bhd. Main purpose to be eligible for tax relieve. Check v our Pai Sifu if he his around lah. Heard he was trying to acquire the entire block .. hehe tongue.gif

Personal 26%? You are right for 2010, ref to:- http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11

Again, question is what is the percentage of CEO vs average jones. 1 vs 500? So your are focus on the top 0.01%. Micro Minority vs majority.

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post Apr 26 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Apr 26 2011, 06:31 PM)
doh.gif our household debt level worst than US shocking.gif
Our economy is heading the portal of HELL
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Bet most of the debt arise from buying new cars.

Buying properties at least you can assure over 5-10yrs, value worst case stagnant usually appreciate.

Buying car, when you drive out of showroom, you already lose easily 5-10%. Drive a BM & MB for 10 yrs you probably left 10% of the value, 90% guarantee lost excl. expenses/repair/insurance/road tax/toll etc etc.

Australia such an affluent nation rich with mineral, population less than M'sia, currency 3x, you see more Hyundai on the road, hardly and MB or BM to show off.

People here too immune to high price, unaware kena con by the stupid policies started in the '80.

Again, thks to this visionary Dr M and his Potong, AP, NAP etc etc. Now we are screwed, like this cannot, like tat cannot shakehead.gif


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post Apr 26 2011, 07:39 PM

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Tat why, a lot of people still thinking the old man is god like Sai baba.

You don't know how much damage the old man did to the country because of own ego.

Things chance 20-30 yrs policies cannot pakai lagi. Still want to hold on to Potong. All kena potong already lah.

Apanama Kasut dalam mulut.

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post Apr 27 2011, 11:05 AM

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Proposed MRT walking distance from my condo. Am I happy? Sort off.

But I still want every single penny of our hard earned money accountable! vmad.gif


Cut and paste from email:-


Subject: FW: MRT Sungai - Buloh 150km


Would you believe it?

It cost #&^@% ,,!,, to build the Sungai Buloh MRT a distance of
ONLY 150km a walloping USD17B (RM53B) or a cost of
USD $133M per km

verses

China's Bejing - Shanghai (Fastest train in the World @350km per hour)
a distance of 1,318km ONLY USD22B or USD $16M per km ??????

Check the web below

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...32&sec=business

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing%E2%80...h-Speed_Railway

Another ploy to BANKRUPT the country!



ps:- the other day read in the news half the amount goes to land acquisition. Ok, tat works out to be around USD $133/2 = USD66.6M/km compares with China USD16M/km, assuming land in China is FOC, heard it FOC land in China!

Conment boleh lah. You win, we loss. rclxms.gif

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post Apr 29 2011, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Apr 28 2011, 06:30 PM)
i just cant understand how come rental never increased  hmm.gif
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Professional foreign expats have dropped from 40k in the 90' to ~25k now. Currently what we have are mostly low cost middle eastern consisting family, students here for short term basis. Just wonder the actual working foreign expats that can contribute higher rental.

Anyway, have to thank those middle easterns too. Some good tenants, some unfortunately lousy tenants, depend on your selection and luck. Thank them for taking up my unit after mat salleh left for cheap bargain in Mont Kiara, rot bottom price suppose.

People still going after $500-600psf hoping for 7% return, even an old bird agent said these people must be mad. rclxub.gif


Added on April 29, 2011, 9:24 am
QUOTE(KLsooner @ Apr 28 2011, 10:07 PM)
today demand is >>>>>> supply but 90% are goreng kaki. My ex business partner bought 70 units of condo and whole street of shop lot for goreng, release all in 6 months and repeat again.
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Before Asia Financial crisis heard the same, Sporeans came here to wallop 10 units, only then crisis came and they got stuck, deposit got burned.

Your ex-partner certainly got some link v the developer/banker to stir the whole market. Typical prior launched already all sold. Then Phase 2/3/4 launched at higher price making all buyers as suckers. Hope these greedy people burn their fingers.


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post Apr 29 2011, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(property101 @ Apr 29 2011, 09:53 AM)
yes, number of expats has drop - they are the high end tenants.
how about our local tenant who rent a 3 rooms apartment? apart from the income didn't increase accordance to (the actual) inflation, what could be the other reasons
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Rich and Famous, Extravagant Lifestyle loh. biggrin.gif

Looking at the cars they drive will tell u the same loh. rclxm9.gif
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post May 6 2011, 02:56 PM

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NEP suppose for the poor, valid for only 10yrs expire in the 80' now extended till 2011, covers the rich and famous too. Wat a policy. notworthy.gif

Not enough, here you too got NAP to protect Potong. For those car lovers prefer to rent house and buy new cars, good luck. Just check MAA website for the taxes that you had paid and going to pay.

http://www.maa.org.my/info_duty.htm

We are living in a strange country indeed. blink.gif

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post May 6 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ May 6 2011, 03:10 PM)
NEP is something like robin hood, rob the rich (oppurtunities etc) subsidy the poor (ppl or company). so everyone somehow are equally poor now. (unless u go work/invest oversea withno such policy )

NAP/NEP is to help cronies to become richer.
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Think should rephrase the sentence. These policies complete opp of robin hood story.

NEP/NAP rob the poor and middle class, use the money subsidizing the rich and famous.

Many are unaware, even those enjoying bit of NEP, not thinking deep enough how much they subsidizing the cronies.

End of the day, not this generation going to suffer. It is the next and next next generations that are going to taste the stupid 'medicine' prescribe by the father of all corrupt aka Dr Tun.

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post May 6 2011, 03:31 PM

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Cheap loan cum abolishment of RPGT. Formula for mega speculative market, created for the benefit of developers, bankers and gomen(stamp duty blah blah, cukai-cukai) lah.

Who are these top guns? Ans: Cronies lah

Who are home buyers, speculators? Ans: Succkers lah biggrin.gif

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post May 6 2011, 06:45 PM

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Bubble will pop only if crisis came and everybody started losing jobs. Hope nothing happen in 2012 else ...

Having say tat, mini bubbles likely to pop in 2012-2013 upon VP when all new properties at the same time flooding the market; looking for new tenants. Those with no holding power have to dispose below market value to cut monthly loses.

For those old properties handed over before 2009, we are not so worry. The most paper value drop 5-10%. Tat too does not effect our monthly repayment. So old properties price will stay.

New ones will be a challenge to fetch expected ROI.

If they impose RPGT tomorrow, can almost guarantee BBB mode will stop.

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QUOTE(PeterChai288 @ May 6 2011, 11:31 PM)
Yup...if lucky, we normal employee still can survive with low salary but unfortunately,younger generation find it hard to do so coz by the time they come out this cruel n competitive society,they barely can catch up...maybe can get 600sqf n stuck together lo.tat time hkg ppl will laugh at us!!!so big place country n full of resources,at the end bcome like them... rclxms.gif
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Years ago, when my HK friend came for family vacation, when he first stepped out from the bus, he looked into my eyes and said, 'hey, you live in the middle of jungle' LOL.. (bus station happened to be in the industrial park of a 2nd largest town up north). Ok, in my heart said, 'you don't know how comfortable and fortunate we Malaysians are' (best if without the corrupted politicians).

HK people need 2-3 jobs to survive, fresh graduate got max 7k-8k tat time, even that houses above a mil. Work your life for a 600sqft flat. Cars are luxuries.

Malaysians are why too pampered. We don't know how fortunate are we compares with Hongki and Sgprean (of course best without the politicians). All shelter in the cocoon, no money just go back to kampung can survive. Just imagine if you a Hongki or Sgprean where you want to run if no money?

When push comes to shove, 500-600sqft or 300-400sqft apartments shall be trendy in the future. You will survive.

If I was a developer, I'll target these group of homeowners with these small trendy apartments. Selling below $250k and let the politicians do free advertising and earn some credit. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(property101 @ May 7 2011, 09:48 AM)
sungai buloh will be the place to build the affordable houses  icon_idea.gif
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No longer call sungai buloh by then lah.

May be Sungai Damansara, Bulu Height, Sungai Utama, Utama Damansara Buluh, MRT Height etc etc ... OM Goodness, just drop the Sungai Buloh for your own sake laugh.gif

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post May 11 2011, 10:56 AM

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Though not into REITs, actually don't really believe in REITs (why give others your money and pay them management fees, why dont own and manage yourself?), heard from BFM this morning Parvilion going into REIT this yr.

May be time to consider sharing one small chunk of one of the most valuable property in the country.
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QUOTE(CKHong @ May 25 2011, 12:47 AM)
RM3 for RON95 will impact alot.. ahhhhhhhhhh
i hope we don't have to pay for RM3
as we're petrol importer...
what happen to those money gained by PETRONAS as for now the fuel per barrel is so expensive.. masuk poket kah.. keep on burdening rakyat... damit
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By right, petrol should follow market rate. We are producing oil doesn't mean we are free to abuse cheap petrol cause this natural resource does not reproduce, you can't plant it like fruits. Matter of time we will run out of oil.

Younger generations now get to taste sins of past generation. Stupid policies implemented in the 80' still carry out today screwing the entire nation.

Discovery of crude oil in the 70' ---> production of Potong, Twin Tower, highways, Putrajaya, KLIA etc etc.

Some of these projects are good of course. But a lot of them were over built, wastage, should have done in stages. Not yet mentioned inflated exploded budget.

Cheap oil ---> Potong cannot export ----> encourge local to buy more, cannot raise oil else cannot sell ---> forget about public transportation ---> buy more Potong ----> choke up the roads/highways ----> no choice Potong cannot export locals pls buy buy ----> built more highways for Potong ----> oh sh8T ----> oil high Usd100 ----> we are running out of oil cum Potong cannot sell cum highway jam out cum public transportation in sorry state, continue talk kok for yrs everything in wonderland blah blah

You get what I mean?

The other day spoke to a retired uncle in his fifties. He too saying we are screwed, many unaware who started this. Mentioned who else but the legendary dr. Those who live thru the 60', 70' era will able to see the rapid changes in the 80'

Yup, many think this old man is great. Don't forget with oil money you can do wonder. See how Dubai transform for nothing, a dessert to a wonderland. But story never end yet. How is Dubai now? Just bare empty buildings.

With oil money, any leaders with some intellegent can do wonders.

Question:- can the leader use the oil money to development the nation and the people who can self sustain with or without the oil money in the future. Obviously not. Instead, giving freebies and tongkats so politicians can stay in power as long as they can. In turn, going into self destruction mode. Many unaware how much damages to the mindset, policies and future of the country cause by a leader in the 80'.

Certainly NO thks to this Tun.

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ May 25 2011, 03:56 PM)
You can't build a reliable bus system that earns money mostly from fares. That just forces bus operators to maximize their income by sticking to the most heavy volume routes only and to wait for the maximum number of passengers before moving. This also encourages drivers to be creative about their route to make more money. Instead, you need a subsidy system that rewards bus drivers for being reliable. You need a timetable such that the bus should appear at each stop on the indicated route at a specific time. You'd need some electronics to monitor all this but the idea is that bus drivers get rewarded for sticking to the schedule as closely as possible.

You probably can't build an efficient public transport system based on usage fees alone. You always need a subsidy from car users. The trade-off is that buses use the road infrastructure more efficiently so it's justifiable to tax car users more heavily on road / petrol taxes and the like to fund public transport.
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Yup, money from petrol should use to fund a good & reliable public transportation. Should have done it in the 80' not now. Anyway, no point to cry over spill milk. Now, rakyat must question what are they going to do with the saving from subsidies cutting. We dont want to hear another White Elephants or Satu Lagi RM10 bil projek that inflated to RM50 bil due to leakages. So what for ask rakyat to pay more in turn overspend using rakyat money?!

For those who takes public transport, you will understand the plight. LRT understand has improved only recently. Gave up 3 yrs ago. 4-5 yrs ago it is a norm people got fainted esp in KL Sentral due to big crowd. Took them how many donkey yrs to solve the simple problem. Problem now is there still lack of parking space. Yup you want people stay far far use public transport, where to park? Parking cost also keep increasing?

Monorail among the more reliable one. Tat too subject to criticism esp during morning and evening rush hour. How come only 2 carriages going to CBD area? Operate monorail like mini bus mindset, pack like sardine. Some time wonder if emergency happen, how to escape with the seats blocking walk way? There was a time train came late near KL Sentral, platform so pack but guards sleeping, escalators keep moving, you have to push your way right when reaching the platform. Imagine a pregnant lady got caught between a move escalator and a crowded platform. Monorail boleh!

Come to think of it if MRT were to start running, have check yourself the safety expect every time before boarding. How the design the seats(blocking walk way), whether enough escape routing and whether locked/working, ventilation working or not. 3rd world mindset trying to operate mass rapid tranport. No play play joke like PCK. You life is in their hand.

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When Mark speaks, I listen.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.c...ius-derivatives

But over in My, stupid local politics will be the main factor how it going to swing. Oh, they play v your money and my money mah. biggrin.gif

Go some wind things might not look so good after GE 2012-2013. 2014 beyond? Nobody knows even Oxford Business school understand reduce they previous teaching from 10yr planning to 5 yr planning and now down 3 yrs planning. Thing changes too quickly.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 27 2011, 04:35 PM)
Buy a new condo, totally blank one.
Renovation, furniture stuff, even only renovate the most simpler, basic, 50-100k is norm.

A sofa cost you >Rm2k, bed >1k, cabinet, table, especially nowadays wooden stuff is very expensive.
Those furniture alone >10-20k on the most basic.
If customised even costly.

Not yet count the kitchen stuff, another 10-20k.

Electrical wiring >5-10k.
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What, you must be referring to condo above 1 mil, spend additional 10% to make into showroom. rclxms.gif

This is not overvalue but overspending if your NEW condo below 500k.

That's the kind of peer pressure that get many into financial trouble incl. own sibling. Hope Singapore 'reno freak' culture not spreading into M'sia. biggrin.gif

Certainly you don't want to work for the bank for the rest of your working life, do you? smile.gif

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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Jun 1 2011, 05:10 PM)

http://valuestockplus.net/2007/07/15/inves...by-mark-mobius/

“Do not be afraid of taking risks. Without risk there is no way your portfolio can achieve superior investment returns. Risk is everywhere, it is something that appears dangerous not only to you but to everyone around you. But, at the same time, risk-taking must be carefully planned and researched so that your chances are better than 50/50. This is not roulette.
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The same article also said:-

“Make volatility your friend. All markets are volatile. They are like a combustible material. You can warm up gasoline to a certain temperature but once it reaches its combustion point all hell breaks loose. The market is a little lik e that. The difference is that the market survives to see another day. But these market explosions give us an opportunity to sell high and buy low since the manic-depressive nature of markets means that they will rise a heck of a lot more than they should and fall a heck of a lot more than they should too.”


I met one smart alec entered in early 2009 bought 6 units, sold all in late 2010 making cool >1 mil hard cash. These are the champ. Glad didn't take the bite from her in 2010. Stay cool, opportunities always around. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(sunzi69 @ Jun 5 2011, 05:06 PM)
i'm 25..a fresh graduate graduated from UK majoring in finance just landed on a Management associate job in 1 of the MNC in Malaysia...

starting pay- RM2300 (to be revised after completion of the 2 years training program)

feel like freaking stressful when talking about this property prices..

For others may perceive that Foreign grad that got a MTP job in MNC seems to have a lot of bright prospect but i seem myself very gloomy future down the road....

I am local and my great grandfather follow Yap Ah Low to develop the KL raw land ...but now seems like i can't even have my own 5 feet place to sleep( to own a house) *those speculate jerks who didn't contribute to the economy but everyday just going to new launch development site to sign a few S&P documents ,few more months back pass back the title to freshie like us and earn the "jackpot" with appreciation gain out of nothing...

People like us work like hell from 9am to 9pm in MNC just able to fork out few hundreds to save in a month...

But people like those freaking rich auntie just buying properties like buying vegetables ,5 units in 1 new lauching project, b4 get CF, gain 50k appreciate, Sell... 50k x 5 = 250k

we freshie only managed to save RM300 per month, it will take how long to reach RM250k... but auntie just put few thousands for downpayment to developer, few months later, magic show starts, RM250k cash in ..wink ^_* ( definately she will sing the Rihanna's song .. don't stop the music.. come ..young man..keep buying.. agent asking buy now ..if not few months back increase again... developer asking.. no bubble.. buy buy buy ..so that they can sell to u more more more at HIGHER and SKY HIGH Price) i knew i ady have written in a very emotional way ady... haha..but i just can't help it...

ok..after emo from my right brain.. it's to use my left brain to analyse..

According to Property Price to income ratio, Malaysia seems quite low compared to Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, China ,Taiwan, Korea (see any similarities ??)

1. They are all Chinese origin, we Chinese custom from 5000 years back, die die must have a house to start a family)

2. They are all very developed country in economic sense...but Malaysia?? hehe..are we??

this is what I object what the agent said about Malaysia property price is much cheaper now compared to Hong kong and Singapore...
but ahem..excuse me...do we earn as much as HongKee and Singaporen or Japanese?? what are their GDP per capita???

World Ranking (by USD) GDP per Capita as at 2010 (sources from IMF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...l%29_per_capita

15  Singapore  43,117
16  Japan          42,820
24  Hong Kong  31,591
25  Brunei          31,239 (surprise me, Brunei.wow)
33  South Korea  20,591
37  Taiwan      18,458
50  Libya          11,314 (lol..even Libya just got attack also doing  better than Malaysia by far percentage..are we ashamed or not?? )

65  Malaysia            8,423
94  China                4,382 (dun forget PRC has 1.3billion ppl)

(comment a bit above)
Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan,Korea needs not to say..They ady get rid of medium income trap.. their economy can producing high value add on products and rakyat enjoy high income so that high property price still can sustainable...

moreover, Singapore and Hong Kong do have a protective security net for low income group, they can't buy private house, still have "HIGH QUALITY HDB Flats" for the citizen.. but What About Malaysia???

Our Goverment said RM3k is considered HIGH INCOME group?? but bloody hell..do u think RM3k alone can afford to buy a house??? say cheers to urself in tat particular month if u no need borrow RM300 from ur parents or cash advance from credit card if u r living in KL...

so.. I earning 3k ,Gov said i ady high income group, suppose I should not have the problem to own a property ,rite? since I am so "success".. but the fact is ???

what about those low income group below 3k??? what about the new generation future?? yeah.. 18 years education n training in Malaysia... Singapore Gov get it all talents for free.. TQ very much for ur highly productive workforce n cheap as well...

okay..come to an article on Household debt in Malaysia – Is it sustainable? — S.M.Mohamed Idris
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/breakin....mohamed-idris/

According to Bank Negara’s Annual Report 2010, Malaysia’s household debt at end of 2010 was RM 581 billion or 76 per cent of GDP (Gross Domestic Product). The Bank claimed that the household debt is still manageable because of income growth, high levels of savings and favourable employment opportunities.

Malaysian household debt service ratio
39.1 per cent in 2006
49.0 per cent in 2009
47.8 per cent in 2010.

(Meaning to say earning RM100, almost half of paying off housing, car instalment, credit card)
left RM50, then what else?? not to say
1)insurance (getting more n more expensive due to medical inflation)
2) daily meal allowance ( food price hike like hell, sugar,what else?)
3) utilities ( TNB naik lagi)
4) transportation (no more subsidy, transporter said wanna increase again)
5) ptptn fee
6) children tuition fee
7) grocery
8)internet
9)mobile
10) basic entertainment (movie..etc)
11)parents allowance
12) car maintenance
13) gf maintenance
*take note, item 12 or 13 could be very expensive too ..hehe ^^ depend on individual
14) savings (Masih ada meh???? sudah negative lor ....)

n Please pray to God or Allah or Buddha or whatever, that no1 in ur family fall sick or need emergency treatment, as 1 minor surgery could cost you nearly bankrupt....

and Answer to BNM item 2)high levels of savings
1)we young generation will have no money to save
2) Old generation save becoz they don't see any productive economy opportunity to invest, or worried for the future, only thing, goreng stock and goreng property la..is it health to an economy??

and BNM item 1) income growth and 3)employment opportunities are in certain correlation from my point of view..

as what Najib is proposing ..ETP (yes, Economic Transformation Program)...sounds glamorous and  shed a light to a gloomy gen-y youngster like me..

What I only know..Mr.Prime MInister.. sebelum kita jadi HIgh Income Country, sekarang ni sudah High Burden la...apa pun naik, gaji tak naik...
have a look on the latest http://www.statistics.gov.my/portal/index....emid=89&lang=en

my lecturer said , he earns RM2300 in Standard Charted Bank also once he graduated back in 20 years ago...
but now , I also earning RM2300 after graduated from UK..

at that time, he bought a bangsar landed property just cost him around RM30k..
i just check on bangsar landed property just now, it shows Bangsar,RM13,2Million (RM380.00 psf)

Bangsar Property price increased by 440 x
Fresh Grad Salary increased by          0 x (stagnant )

once again- well done.. Bolehland!!!

let's talk about Income growth and Employment Opportunities...
definately we Malaysia ady fall into Middle income trap countries..
To producing high quality services and products like Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea and Japan (Can we or Do we able to fight??)
(Singapore and Hong Kong have a world class financial centre, logistic port, free corruption n busines friendly environment, do we have tat???)
(Japan can made high quality and cheap Toyota or Korea can made hyundai or LG)
What We Malaysian proud of ?? Making Proton cars ?? but still need protection??? and cost we Malaysian paying so high instalment for a ok ok proton for such a high price and sacrifice our quality of life...

To achieve a high income country > to able produce high value of services or product n efficient > can we product high tech or value product services > (do we have tat talents?? or able to attract the talents or could we have the efficient and skillful workforce???) > to attract those talent > what is our gov policy or our current environment??

write till here...my paid is freaking low(RM2300 for junior)..but the same equivalent job i could earn about SGD3500 in senior position (about RM7500).. about 3x what i earn in Malaysia...

so don't say we young generation not loyalty or to serve our country ...(but i dunno why i still serve my contribution in Malaysia becoz my family is here .. n I still love KL n it's my root)

btw,1 last sentence..
Looking at the problem from the ratio of household debt to disposable income, this ratio is 140.4  per cent for Malaysia, one of the highest in the world; above that of Singapore at 105.3  per cent, USA at 123.3  per cent and Thailand at 52.7 per cent in 2009. This means that the loans taken by each household in Malaysia is on average 1.4 times more than its household income. 

yes.. no.1 in the world 140.4 percent for household debt to disposable income ...yes..we r more serious than sub-prime buyers in U.S and yet ppl say we Malaysia will not happen that what happened in U.S...

i just wondering if ppl stop repaying their repayment n go bust, Banks surely are the one whose get affected drastically....if bank no money channeling out money out...surely tighten of credit supply...a mere property price bubble burst could trigger the stock marke collapse hence the hit into the real economy....it just like what happened in 1997..

perhaps 1 big event i believed which might started in China will initiate a contagion effect on the Asian region and sweep away all the excess liquidity in the market and once again 1997 Asian financial Crisis will once ..the history repeat itself again.. it's a circle anyway driven by human greedy n fear...

so.. the music chair ..see when the music stops la...

n i think very soon .....
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Good write up. Old folks too hard to understand, still in wonderland. Tat's for your generation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJl6brFT-RQ...player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxgiz6T17RU...player_embedded



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