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post Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM, updated 15y ago

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hi guys,

Juz want to share my feeling.I have been working in commercial firm for three month and just been confirmed.
But there is no increment for my salary.And their excuse is my performance is not good enough.
Actually sometime i work overtime for this company and their not even paid overtime money.
Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
It is a simple job actually and what I need to do is just copy and paste data from excel.
I really feel I no content with with job and i can't focus on doing it.
Should i resign from this company and find company that really suited me?Thanks
If i continue to do it i think my performance will also same..................
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post Feb 20 2011, 05:59 PM

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I think you already have the answer for yourself,right ?
all you need to do is first step...smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2011, 06:03 PM

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if u think u can't improve yourself working there...just find other place, make sure u got the place first before u leave...don't just follow your heart unless u don't hv any financial problem if u r jobless...

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QUOTE(lonely_dream @ Feb 20 2011, 05:59 PM)
I think you already have the answer for yourself,right ?
all you need to do is first step...smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM)

Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of  it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
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1) There is NO rules tat says u r entitled for increment during confirmation unless stipulated in employment letter/offer letter.

2) Ur excuse for making mistakes due to the "boring job" is a stupid one. Dun blame the boring job if you can't perform as required. It is UR fault

3) If it is not what you want to do, get out of the place. Nobody is stopping u.
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post Feb 20 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM)
hi guys,

Juz want to share my feeling.I have been working in commercial firm for three month and just been confirmed.
But there is no increment for my salary.And their excuse is my performance is not good enough.
Actually sometime i work overtime for this company and their not even paid overtime money.
Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of  it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
It is a simple job actually and what I need to do is just copy and paste data from excel.
I really feel I no content with with job and i can't focus on doing it.
Should i resign from this company and find company that really suited me?Thanks
If i continue to do it i think my performance will also same..................
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You have already answered yourself why your performance is not good enough. Do not blame on the company for not giving you a raise when you already admitted it yourself your shortcoming when doing the work. A simple job and yet you can make mistakes just because it is too boring. Giving excuses to justify yourself when you have not done your best is not what an employee or an individual should have. Before the start of a job make sure you be very clear of job scope and whether or not it's right for you. Good luck in finding another job if you choose to and please do not waste your time and your boss' for the next job.
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post Feb 20 2011, 09:18 PM

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Time to move on...
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post Feb 20 2011, 09:29 PM

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fresh grad?
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post Feb 20 2011, 10:06 PM

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Since your company is not willing to pay increment.... then you just don't need to pay extra effort on work... simple as that...


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post Feb 20 2011, 10:09 PM

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@derrick-c
Put yourself in your employer's shoes and tell me whether you deserve a raise.

Either way if your job is boring go look for another but do not be surprised if it is not too different from current one.
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Increment is not a necessity after confirmation... get use to it.
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post Feb 20 2011, 11:36 PM

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working itself is already boring. most important is what you think of the job. if you don't like the company and don't enjoy what you doing, then go ahead to find a more suitable one
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post Feb 20 2011, 11:46 PM

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really pity those who work at chinaman company.... after confirmation still no increment...even RM100 or RM200 is better than no increment at all...

no wonder motivation is so low at those company...
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@Mamulamoon
Its not only chinaman company that is like this. SOME MNC's also do not increase your salary upon confirmation.
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post Feb 21 2011, 01:28 AM

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Sorry to say, but this piece does not deserve much pity from me. Same goes for the rest of the public if this scenario were discussed openly. As the others have already pointed out rather clearly:

1. It has never been a global policy to increase one's wages, even after confirmation. Where do you get that assumption from?

2. Companies are not required to explain as to why your salary has not been increased, unless they have committed to some form of increment in black and white.

3. Mistakes are normal and all part of the job. It is the motivation behind these mistakes that make all of the difference. Approaching a job with a completely wrong set of attitudes will naturally hamper your progress in that company.

4. Accuracy is a primary requisite for Data Entry (as this task would be otherwise classified) type roles. No offense, but whatever gave you the idea that you could make mistakes "here and there" and get away with it? Very simple rationale - If you kill all of the plants that you have ever touched, should you be blaming others when they claim you're a bad farmer?


It is no wonder that you're not content with your job and cannot focus on it. I'd suggest that you move on and find a better fit. Hopefully, once you find a better fit, conditions will improve, both for yourself and the company. However, I would strongly suggest that you drop this externalization and projection coping mechanism you've got brooding over there. It is not only unhealthy, but only serves to demonstrate that you do not have what it takes to be a strong leader in the future.

REAL leaders find solutions to challenges and work around them with the resources that they have. Wherever necessary, leaders will innovate by creating new tools and solutions to complex problems. Followers will only complain that they are not equipped properly to solve problems to tasks that they are trained to do.
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post Feb 21 2011, 01:41 AM

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Making mistakes are normal to me. Unfortunately most employers don't think so (unless you're lucky enough to have a boss who's really down to earth)...
Anyway depends on what you want in life? is career a very important part of your life? if building a career matters to you, perhaps you should start looking for another job?
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post Feb 21 2011, 08:37 AM

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when i confirm, i also did not get increment, not all companies give increment after confirmed.
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post Feb 21 2011, 08:55 AM

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same like my colleague, the management even extended her probation period and in the end, confirmed her but no increment was given. imo, go for another job as you sound not so happy with the current one.
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:02 AM

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in the 2 jobs that i used to worked, employer stated clearly in contract, no increment upon confirmation
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:06 AM

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change job and change attitude.
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM)
hi guys,

Juz want to share my feeling.I have been working in commercial firm for three month and just been confirmed.
But there is no increment for my salary.And their excuse is my performance is not good enough.
Actually sometime i work overtime for this company and their not even paid overtime money.
Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of  it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
It is a simple job actually and what I need to do is just copy and paste data from excel.
I really feel I no content with with job and i can't focus on doing it.
Should i resign from this company and find company that really suited me?Thanks
If i continue to do it i think my performance will also same..................
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Based on your describe "Excel", look like you work in Finance or Account Dept... I won't hire you coz your mistake can make me loss a few million of $$$$.
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post Feb 21 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM)
hi guys,

Juz want to share my feeling.I have been working in commercial firm for three month and just been confirmed.
But there is no increment for my salary.And their excuse is my performance is not good enough.
Actually sometime i work overtime for this company and their not even paid overtime money.
Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of  it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
It is a simple job actually and what I need to do is just copy and paste data from excel.
I really feel I no content with with job and i can't focus on doing it.
Should i resign from this company and find company that really suited me?Thanks
If i continue to do it i think my performance will also same..................
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Copy paste also can make mistake? It's your problem.
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post Feb 21 2011, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Feb 21 2011, 09:06 AM)
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yep.

not all jobs give extra upon confirmation. its trendy for fresh grad jobs only.
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post Feb 21 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(TommyTan @ Feb 21 2011, 11:07 AM)
yep.

not all jobs give extra upon confirmation. its trendy for fresh grad jobs only.
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Second that. I didn't get a any raise after my confirmation even they verbally promise me that. No point unless there is black and white stated so. I believe if you are having fun with your work then you will have the motivation to work.
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post Feb 21 2011, 12:05 PM

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you are hired in at a certain rate on what the employer perceive you can do base on the job.

if you confirm, you dont get an increment, it means you are a perm and follow the appraisal cycle like all other perm staff, generally.

there are still company who will hire in at a lower rate, and your probation serve as a tryout period, but this is very less already.

reason is, they will lose out the candidates to competitor because they offer lower initial rate.
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Feb 20 2011, 11:46 PM)
really pity those who work at chinaman company.... after confirmation still no increment...even RM100 or RM200 is better than no increment at all...

no wonder motivation is so low at those company...
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Not only chinaman company no increment after confirmation, most of the company practice this method already... regardless of chinaman co or not...
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post Feb 21 2011, 12:19 PM

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there are many resign letters format on the net...
if u can start a tread here... i guess u know how to find the letter and resign....
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post Feb 21 2011, 03:21 PM

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i also dont have any increment during my confirmation...
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post Feb 21 2011, 06:17 PM

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You don't seem to enjoy your job. Have you tried discussing this with your boss? Perhaps there's more for you to do. If the boss still can't help you or see no point in letting you take on more responsibilities, you know what to do. Time to look for company which will give you more challenge.

I was once in your situation. It eats up so much of my mental energy, call it wastage. It sucks big time.
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Ahhh in my 2nd job there's no increment as well - it's not the company's practice to provide increment upon confirmation. Gotta wait till end of the year for appraisal then evaluated based on KPI.

As in your case... well yes, I understand that it sucks that you don't get the increment. But if you look back, did you play a part in it? You made numerous mistakes didn't you? So I suppose it's justifiable on the employer's part.

The other thing is that - you really don't like the job that it's causing you so much mental stress. Certainly doesn't look good... either you leave or talk to your boss to allocate some other tasks.
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QUOTE(derrick-c @ Feb 20 2011, 05:58 PM)
hi guys,

Juz want to share my feeling.I have been working in commercial firm for three month and just been confirmed.
But there is no increment for my salary.And their excuse is my performance is not good enough.
Actually sometime i work overtime for this company and their not even paid overtime money.
Yet I do make some mistakes in my job and all of  it because i think that this job is too boring and disturb me mentally.
It is a simple job actually and what I need to do is just copy and paste data from excel.
I really feel I no content with with job and i can't focus on doing it.
Should i resign from this company and find company that really suited me?Thanks
If i continue to do it i think my performance will also same..................
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it's so common that there is no increment after u being confirm la
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post Feb 23 2011, 10:56 AM

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Most jobs do not pay u an increment after confirmation.

 

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