okok..tat means ecu will auto retune if i keep always rey high the rpm,rite??
Yeah.. If u drive aggressively then ur car the ECU will become more power tune..
QUOTE(loong2020 @ Feb 22 2011, 12:29 PM)
woots....never know that oil shocks will foam if trash hard.....so not much differences..la....how about the price?...you change last time??..normally how much a normal standard gas shocks will costs for gen2/persona?....
for Entry level shocks it will lah.. Those performance monotube ones wont lah.. But monotube oil shocks gila expensive.
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Feb 22 2011, 02:22 PM)
i'm found tat power of campro reali different when u on the aircond..totali power loss much..b4 tis i drove wira,when aircond kick in,wont feel too much like persona..sure,when off aircond of both car,sure the campro more powerful than my previous wira se..
Yeah aircon compressor do take up a lot of power.. I always go to federal from usj1 using the tall tall bridge.. Normally if i were to enter the foot of the bridge at 80kmh@2k rpm, by midway sure have to drop gear to maintain speed. But if off aircon then can maintain same speed and gear.. But cant accelerate though..
QUOTE(mafarizan @ Feb 22 2011, 02:26 PM)
my car will rev till 5.5k rpm b4 change to 4th gear at 150kmh with aircond ...4th gear RPM drop to 4.3k+- and the speed increase near to 170kmh easy.... but have to release accelerate pedal due to traffic after using VS & GC (eric), autolite iridium plug, dcarbo, use platinum engine oil and PDT..... btw mine is IAFM auto 2008. Overall very satisfy with current performance ..... heheheee.,.. scared already .....
AWESOME!!! But mine 4k rpm at top gear is 160kmh lah..
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 22 2011, 03:41 PM)
Wah... My FC.. 7.9-8.2 L/100 KMs on highway doing 130 KM/H..
Im getting 7.1-7.5L at that speed constant.
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Feb 22 2011, 03:49 PM)
change extractor can save petrol oh..reali wanna save moey to modify..hehe
Can. Buang bini, save money.
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 22 2011, 03:52 PM)
I think if it's just extractor then straight pipe go to muffler will save more petrol XD
Then u wud either have to be deaf or waiting for brain damage from the sound only.
QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 22 2011, 04:25 PM)
My ecu was tune to cut off the aircond during rev.. finally I just bought castrol edge at rm205 from castrol dealer.. [attachmentid=2056084]
Like that also can ah.. Then i also want lah.. Instead of me turning it on and off all the time only.. haha..
for example.. I traveling at 80km/h at 2k rpm.. once I step on the pedal.. the aircond will auto cut off.. after 5-8second the aircond will auto turn back on
Awesome shit. haha.. I also can feel a lot of difference if off aircon.. Guess i shd go ask the fella to tune. Btw how he tune it? using PDT?
QUOTE(fubs @ Feb 22 2011, 09:55 PM)
guys, got a question:
anyone has details for the persona radio unit? was wondering if it has an input jack to connect mp3 players
PE got aux in port infront.
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 23 2011, 02:54 AM)
Go get multipurpose conditioner for leather, rubber & plastics. Am using that right now.
Added on February 23, 2011, 2:56 amGuys, I might be selling my front stock brake rotors soon. Upgrading to cross drilled ones with high temp brake pads. Anyone interested can pm me about it. Selling at RM 150 a pair. Originally claimed from Proton SC.
I also got brand new hvnt installed front brake disc for sale. XD..
wow, long time didnt come back, v12 d lo! poker, cny dont gamble la, be like me, i dunno any gamble related stuff
Added on February 23, 2011, 11:20 amoh ya, i wanna ask something, my alarm red little lamp, keep on blinking occasionally. why? i think since the fella kissed my ass it become like this, when i wash my car, it blink, and the next time i wash, or touch the ass, it become normal again
haha.. long time no see u. .enjoying penang? XD Take it to service centre to check..
250k means that fella go for something big and huge with a Hemi v8 in it ady.
QUOTE(kausar @ Feb 23 2011, 12:55 PM)
everyone knows 1.6 engine is useless with auto. the basic rule is to have 2.0 cc engine & above to have auto engine. we just buy auto becoz its easy to maneuver at KL traffic my assumption 1.6 engine with aircon will go like 1.3 engine while 2.0 engine will go to 1.8 engine status
that why dugong have small engine & light body to push the engine power while sacrifice handling & engine stamina.
True also.. Our auto all Torque converter type.. Not like VW DSG, those dual clutch auto box then only have lesser transmission lost. But super expensive to built.. If got change go get Golf GTi gearbox halfcut and transplant.
QUOTE(arfaie @ Feb 23 2011, 01:15 PM)
last nite, while installing my cold air intake..i found a socket, suspected a foglight socket maybe? mine b line elegance
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Hmmm.. That means its ady come with wiring for fog lamps lah? Then good lah.. Can retrofit easily.
QUOTE(manejist @ Feb 23 2011, 01:42 PM)
hei just wondering our spark plug in denso is ik20 right ?
Nope IT20.. IK20 different temp grade..
QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 23 2011, 01:49 PM)
If i take semi and normal plug it cost less than RM 500 only.. the castrol edge fully synth alone cost RM 205 already.. the spark plug cost RM 140.. with normal major service already RM 391 full tank petrol RM 30 so total RM 766 and I round it off become RM 800 lo.. easy to count
OIC.. No wonder lah.. U buy the stuffs also so expensive and petrol.. Grrr..
QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 23 2011, 01:56 PM)
Err nope? mine 6000k colour temp which JPJ dont allow.. They only allow below 4300k colour temp.. Picture refer to my post at v11 thread
Ya wei ur fog lamp really sakit mata.. Too bright.. 6K light but can barely lit the roads.
yeah forgot, so the price will be RM520 something, auto trans fluid really expensive at proton than outside. but i rather service at proton than outside bcz feel more reliable+warranty somemore
Then i think we buy from outside then bring it to SC to change it for us lah.. Let them untung the labour only.. Hehehehehe..
just finish take my car from bukit Maluri Kepong service center, need to wait 1 week for the auto tensioner. My air cond vent rattling sound gone already haha..
Zeng, the drop in filter only available after April? Can pm me your maybank account? can i bank in to you when the stock available?
It will arrive after March.. probably in the first week of april can get it.. Then i will inform u all by then lah.. Later i PM u my maybank number lah.
QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Feb 23 2011, 04:22 PM)
But warranty will void?
Hmmm i dont think it will.. Cos like engine oil.. As long as u follow the correct grade used then they cant complaint anything.. U can screw then up down left right nicely.
Ya lo.. Nonsense lo.. engine oil where can damage the engine unless use fake engine oil only or use wrong type.. what is darling card?
Not darling card lah.. Daring card.. Its a free membership program for Proton owners.. Can get 10% discount on parts only and free annual checkup for ur car. And also free 24-hr breakdown roadside assistance.
QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 23 2011, 07:43 PM)
Yup. It will owesome.. I ask around already.. no people selling.. Nah.. tomorrow onward instant mee
Wasai me want to buy instant mee also no money leh.. Buy 1 huge loaf of bread and ration it for 1 week.
QUOTE(saddient @ Feb 23 2011, 08:57 PM)
tmr im going to genting... first time driving auto car go up genting.... so which gear should i use when driving up.... and which gear should i switch during driving down ?
No spark plugs yet no shiok going to genting lah.. Use 2, 3 all the way uphill.. Dont bother shifting to D..But ur PE the gearbox is intellingent enough to hold to the current gear while going uphill and wont upshift even though how u force it to..
QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Feb 23 2011, 09:59 PM)
couldnt be..cos when they install the fog lamp socket is plug and play and they even turn on the headlights one notch(small lights)..but to no avail...sigh..maybe need to add something in...maybe u go try and let us know..
I think u left out the fuse lah.. In the fusebox there is a fuse needed for the front and back foglamps.
QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Feb 23 2011, 10:47 PM)
Today went for 10k service. RM190..kanasai..lausai.. x1r-rm 48...shit.
But they upgrade the ecu to 3.9..felt smoother also changed the auto tensioner belt.
Guess what..they pretend that the free gift for the pertronas oil dont exist until i insist on it...
Wanted to use the fully synthetic oil so i can service at next 20k but the SA told me the oil too nipis will rosak engine.Its more for manual.Fully synthetic oil rm190...i felt wanna pengsan loh.
Also i asked,if i wanna change the plugs,he say jangan..coz this denso not approved..but i went to small SC they say can change..HOW?
Actually true also.. U use SAE30 oil its quite thin.. So when u coldstart up ur engine the camshaft wont have much lubrication cos the oil all dripped back to the reservoir.. But then its not much of a big deal lah.. This IT20 follows the official specs. IK20 baru the not approved one..
QUOTE(victor87 @ Feb 24 2011, 12:23 AM)
eh.. how come everyone saying their STOCK Persona can goes up to 215km/h???
While my PE max out around 18Xkm/h only.... Already tekan all and empty roads ahead, still cannot go further anymore. What mod u guys do to your Persona lah?? Care to show video / pic to proof your top speed?
Car condition: 18xxxkms Mobil1 fully syn 5w-50 service every 5k kms fully stock. automatic transmission. I take a video while attack the top speed just now, will upload later
Can go up to 200. First thing wrong with ur car.. Ur oil.. 5w-50 is super thick wei.. The thicker the engine oil, u lose top speed and hp cos of the extra drag and load.
Our cars come with Denso Iridium Spark Plugs, Works Engineering Air Filter, VS+GC, 34psi tires.. Even my 100% stock virgin Persona auto can reach 190kmh easily b4 even going for 1k service.
After all those mods above i can reach 205kmh.. But hvnt tekan habis yet cos run out of road.. Will be planning to go test it soon..
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 24 2011, 12:50 AM)
Here's the whole package I did today..
2 Way Viper R350 Alarm with tilt detector, motion sensor, shock sensor. 2 Relays 1 Trunk release gun/kit 1 EL Viper Logo
Total damage RM 1670.
KNS FML so damn expensive wei.. Can upgrade 18" rims.. =.=!!!
QUOTE(victor87 @ Feb 24 2011, 01:48 AM)
wakao.. ur brake made from sand ah?? lol...
my Persona brakes also sucks la...
Wonder if u guys Persona will suddenly go forward even u stepped on the brakes on traffic light.
my persona almost langgar people rear bumper becoz of that.... everytime compressor charging will like that.. must step on brake kuat kuat or shift to N.
Everytime u stop for sometime like traffic light better to shift to N. Save fuel and prolong ur gearbox lifespan. When did u get ur car? Did u update the ECU? Sounds like u got old firmware.
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 24 2011, 01:58 AM)
Brakes for M & B line sucks, not for H line. I almost hit someone today too. LoL. Was SMSing while driving, didnt realise a Kembara stop in front of me. Suddenly emergency brake. haha..
Shit.. Sms so much.. haiz.. SMS phailed.. Later accident ady masuk hospital baru tau.
QUOTE(jasontantenghuat @ Feb 24 2011, 02:21 AM)
I think the last version or the one before this thread someone said his H-line ABS failed or something like that. Resulting in the car not braking at all. How many TT I missed already? SMS me if got, I will reply faster wan. And everytime I visit this page, I will skip a few pages. Malas to read all.
And I just found out about Zeng's accident. Slow ler
Deng.. Ok lah next time SMS u earlier.. Heads up for u. This last weekend of March we will convoy up to Genting.
i've changed my spark plug to ngk iridium already, now thinking to change to quadcore 10.5mm cable & high performance ignition coil. do you guys think it really worth it to change them?
confuse with ignition coil, so far some sellers claim got jec / ram brand better than stock coil. really ah? stock no good ma?
Erm how are u suppose to change to plug cable? Cos Persona is using ignition coil. U are NOT suppose to change to high performance ignition coil without an ECU piggyback or standalone controlling the voltage. Even the warning from the performance ignition coil manufacturer states it.
Sure no probs.. but dont have good camera Hmm thinking getting one
Added on February 24, 2011, 11:48 am
lol.. typo.. Where to get daring card? why I tarak one?
GO to COSE the counter there and apply one.. Free punya. XD
QUOTE(victor87 @ Feb 24 2011, 12:49 PM)
sorry bro, checked with my engine oil, it's 0w-50, not 5w-50...
the oil itself is like water liao, so thin compare to my Petronas 20w-50... now the engine oil still gold in color after 6k kms.
My car same with your video lah.. Stuck at 180+ keluar abit nia... You are hitting 190 because of downhill ma...
My PE is first batch. Maybe need to ask them to upgrade my firmware lorr...
Owh.. Still gold color means good lah.. XD No lah my top speed was done on MIEX highway.. When going uphill it reach 180 like that.. When reach flat road it goes up to 190.. Now can go up to 205.. Mb after TT session we can all go to MIEX for a test drive. XD
TT SESSION 4.0 Venue : Genting Highlands - Day trip Date: 27th March 2011 Time: 10am. We will gather up somewhere in wangsa maju area.. Probably wangsa walk then all of us convoy go uphill. Need at least 10cars lah.. Then only shiok to convoy.. Please RSVP asap!
Read in one of the magazine. Either Hypertune or Extreme Performance.. Was reading one of the ad about performance ignition coil with secondary capacitor discharge. Sorry forgot which ad but confirm its from one of these mags cos i only read these 2 tuning mags.
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Feb 24 2011, 01:49 PM)
count me in..but i dun have change air filter then will be most slow one..haiz
Saddient didnt even got plugs yet.. DOnt worry.. Sure can stay up one lah.. We not go there to race uphill.. .. Dangerous to other road users though..
QUOTE(KKW @ Feb 24 2011, 01:53 PM)
Need go there meh? haiz.. is there other way to apply? anyway, I just installed the philips x-treme power.. Will try it at night
I prefer night time go...cool air , less car , less traffic
I also prefer night.. But lets see the response first lah.. XD.. Get 10cars first.. hee..
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 24 2011, 05:03 PM)
Guys, I need to go CoSE tomoro to tune my ECU. Engine light came on, asked the exhaust shop fella he said it's because the O2sensor was relocated to the bottom after nenas.
Kua kua kua.. Eh if u go ask ady ask them isit cos the sensor is the non heated version thats why take takes too long time to get heated up cos placed too far from the engine block?
QUOTE(xandras @ Feb 24 2011, 05:08 PM)
Eh serdang SC at where ah? LoL. I noob serdang area, thot wanna pay them a visit.
What socket? U mean the o2 sensor socket to the engine or the 1 attached to the exhaust pipe?
Have u retuned ur ECU yet? Urs is PE or normal persona with 16 bit ECU?
Added on February 24, 2011, 6:05 pmWah today rain really very heavy le.. Until my Nautilus masuk air.. Really become Nautilus the ship d.. LoL.. Banjir teruk at Wangsa Maju/Setapak area..
Nautilues ship.. Haha.. Everytime u horn not only sound will come out.. Can splash water somemore.. AWESOME!!!
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Feb 24 2011, 07:11 PM)
u search at mudah then can get it..juz key in jasma filter..how about redline?
Redline filter are single layer stainless steel mesh if im not mistaken.....
QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Feb 25 2011, 02:47 AM)
lols..lucky mine is located at the 2nd pipe(powerzone)...up there...if not sure alot of problem la...
Added on February 25, 2011, 2:49 am bro..its seems most extractor o2 sensor located at the down part have this problem ar..but anyways,was curious hows the performance like...is it better on top or btm for the o2 sensor..
Added on February 25, 2011, 2:54 am yours is PE rite??mine already reflash the ECU..but unfortunately problem still exist.....actually i change the ECU due mine is the first batch of PE which causes alot of engine dies off/jerking problem...was hoping there is a common problem for this so i can replace straight away...
anyways,thanks bro...
Bro ur car we hvnt test drive yet.. XD When free for small TT?
QUOTE(n0name8886 @ Feb 25 2011, 04:33 AM)
i'm new here. just got a 2nd hand persona auto few months back... is due for service soon... was wondering if proton allow us to bring our own oil? what brand do u guys recommend?
Avoid Syntium if u can.. Maybe u can use Shell helix Ultra if u go SC and buy from them(very expensive). Or u can go out and try Fully synthetic oils such as Castrol Edge or Platinum oil(very rare) .. Fully can last for 10k between each change. Some Proton SC like COSE or Serdang SC can bring own lube.
QUOTE(wilsonjack228 @ Feb 25 2011, 07:50 AM)
Some can some cannot , depends on the center . our member here always discuss about castrol magnetic . Most SC used either Petronas Syntium or Shell Helix.