How would I introduce myself? Hi!!

Indeed I am a nooblet at the lowyat forums, but hear me out for a second!.
I hope this is posted in the right area admin please advise if this kind of thing is not allowed or is in the wrong section!.

What I am interested in is to develop a body building series. Which is of premium quality and affordable.
No doubt I could get our inhouse R&D team to mirror pre exsisting products on the market and do better on their pricing. But why not try to develop a new product out first based on user input?

The best product I believe is a product made by the public. What do you guys think feasible or a ludicrous idea? What is guarantied is definitely no shoddy work of spiking products and so forth, I really despise companies which poison their consumers.

Here is a quick run down on why we are able to match pricing and develop products. Our base company OEMs premium products for numerous brands which I am not at liberty to disclose but guarantee you would notice a few of the brands. But what this allows us to do is order in bulk a serious amount of proteins every year. We are talking about several containers of the stuff like whey proteins, creatine monohydrate and so on.

local proteinfactory.com ?

no not at all. I do appreciate the reply though.

Our Wheys in this case are from fronterra New Zealand, premium stuff at a slightly higher price.

Maybe I need to elaborate a bit more, most brands do not manufacture their own products they will out source it to a manufacturer like us. To source raw material and blend their formulation for them.

Our company has been doing this for 7 years and complies with world standards for food manufacturing HACCP, GMP with our new factory in Seminyth it will comply with ISO2200 Food Safety. I dont want to step over boundaries where I start to "advertise" our company. oO yeah I forgot to add we are a Malaysian company Bionexus Status.

As of now I am interested in getting user input on Developing BodyBuilding Formulations.

This post has been edited by snackmonster: Feb 18 2011, 11:48 AM

Halal certified bodybuilding supplement. This is hard to find especially the creatine monohydrate and fat burner pills ... and Of course flavoured whey protein at very cheap price

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: Feb 18 2011, 12:31 PM

Yes indeed sorry forgot to add we have HALAL certification. Good point and noted!

And sorry to ask, what is the purpose of this thread? Not that we know how to formulate it, we bodybuilders only know, GET THE CHEAPEST WHEY AVAILABLE and DRINK IT!

Well from what I can see on the market available being 2 sets of products. Pure Whey and a Protein Type of Formulation with Creatine and Vitamin B Complexes?

I am trying to figure out what products are more preferred in a formulation, and what ingredients do you body builders look out for.

Indeed selling Whey Protein at a great price is not a problem for us and I do intend to do that. But a drink formulated to help muscle recovery with products such as D-ribose (US) can be extremely beneficial.

If the end user is aware of how useful ribose can be is another question I have yet been able to answer. Hopefully through this forum and thread get a better idea.

So as of from your reply most folks are looking for cheap whey proteins? flavoured? or neutral tasting?

Body Mass formulations are you guys looking for such things?

And I just checked our Whey is Halal.

This post has been edited by snackmonster: Feb 18 2011, 06:11 PM

+1

oo okay noted. If I may ask how much are you folks paying per kilo of whey, some of the good stuff we talking here

RM150 for 3kg of flavour-less whey.

BTW, check your message. PM'ed you.

if can get price lyk tht, its ok already. and the most important thing it has Halal certificate, which is rather rare to found except horley. other brand dun seems to have halal cause maybe all of them are imported one.

so this about we formulating our own whey protein or we just give the idea which is better and most preferable whey protein to the customer?

The Whey protein with HALAL cert is not a problem. It is pre existing.

It is great I am recieving such information i.e purchasing of Whey proteins at the going market rate.

I am more interested in formulating based on user input on the types of compounds body builders are interested in using. These would be more based on pre exsisting stocks we import, as mentioned before like d-ribose, anti inflammatory compounds from mangosteen extracts as an example.

This post has been edited by snackmonster: Feb 18 2011, 11:04 PM

Excellent stuff there you've got.

I guess the one I bought is re-packaged Fonterra whey. Or the seller could've bought it from you. LOL!

Is your product is available in Malaysia's market now? what is the brand and where can we get the product. Or can you posted the picture and also the ingredient plus the price. hehe. really want to get back into bb. long time leaving it.

these things are hard to say. I will advise our company to act fast with a no frills whey protein with a spec sheet. What weights of whey proteins do you guys prefer to buy? 1kg? 2kg? 3kg? Or is it purely a budget thing say RM200 bux worth of whey protein for example?

The quickest way to pack such products is via Aluminum resealable foil bag OR cannisters of

I will advise you guys when it is available which wont be too long.

That aside I am confirming our online payment gateway so you can purchase online via credit card and get it delivered (maybe delivery free have yet to confirm), or cash if you wish and pick up from our office.

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Added on February 18, 2011, 11:45 pmThat is hard to say you can buy whey from China and US. But NZ whey you can be assured it is good stuff. A question you would ask yourself for every gram of whey how much protein is in that gram. Purity is one thing next would be amino acid profile.


This post has been edited by snackmonster: Feb 18 2011, 11:54 PM

How about low fat whey. Lower than 5g of fat per 100g of whey. If can get lower fat the better

That is indeed an interesting point one would expect high grade whey to be almost pure protein. Will check that out

pre requisites for my whey would be from a trusted brand thats cheap, ie RM200 or less. the cheaper the better.
edit: for 5lbs weight. atm i'm getting it for RM180 per 5lbs

This post has been edited by mikehuan: Feb 19 2011, 02:48 AM

I will give you guys a heads up, because of australia losing a lot of their cows. Whey is expected to go up and prices remain floating.

Whey proteins from the oceanic region sometimes varies in price with order no matter how much you order.

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This post has been edited by hoxy: Jun 13 2012, 08:38 PM

Any plans to add some egg protein ? Make it an all-rounder that can be used anytime besides post-workout.

Some probiotics+enzyme for digestion/absorption - enhances the bioavailability of the protein. . If locally formulated, maybe these ingredients won't add too much to the price.

If i can get this, it would save me having too many supplements.

Neutral taste option preferred so can mix with meals/concoctions.

This post has been edited by mrPOTATO: Feb 19 2011, 11:09 AM

for meal replacement, i would say a combination of casein + egg + egg yolk (for fat contain) would be awesome.

spray dried egg huh.. We dont handle spray dried egg but will look into it. As all you guys know the more you buy the cheaper it gets

I appreciate the feedback guys, we have a massive inventory so the more ideas you splurge here the easier it is for me to filter through all the ingredients we are trading.

The digestion/absorption is definitely something we can put in and will dose according to efficacy!

the best if u can formulate a protein drink dat got different kinds of protein dat have different digestive period to ensure sustained release protein to our blood stream. not just whey. but mix it up with casien, albumin and others.

another important thing we look in our whey or protein drink is d amino acids in it. be it BCAA or EAA. most of us look into 3 most important muscle building protein: Gluamine, arginine and leucine.. n even citruline..

hope u can beat this: http://www.iammutant.com/products/mutantpr...tionalfacts.php

We have decided to just pack Whey Protein Concentrate. You can buy them through http://nutra.asia or PM me directly to organize.

So all that discussion comes to whey protein concentrate. Good luck in your sales

Since you are aware there have been a number of sellers of fake supplements online recently. Some of us are extra cautious. And some of us also have access to pharmacological labs since we're in the medical field. Do you mind if it gets lab tested at random?

+1

if everything is safe . we retailers will also help you to promote actually.=)

This post has been edited by LeanSupp: Oct 13 2011, 04:56 PM

sure no problem. If you want to test our products I do not have any objections .
Safety is a definitely our number 1 priority. Let me know how I can organize this, I would also like to see the results of these tests.

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Added on October 13, 2011, 7:04 pmgive me a pm or email me through nutra.asia and I will discuss further from there. I would also like to add our manufacturer is HACCP Australia New Zealand Standard (JASANZ), GMP, and Bionexus Status.

So there is extensive auditing done by Mosti and Overseas for our JASANZ HACCP.

Newer manufacturing facility where we are based now is HEPA controlled air with ISO22000, OTC Herbal License and cGMP .

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Added on October 13, 2011, 7:12 pmRealistically, protein is protein, if you want a longer digesting formulation add fibers such as inulin. All the rest they sell you is a bunch of marketing junk.
Search it online and further understand the fundamentals of digestions whether you eat simple or complex proteins thus varying molecular size it gets broken down into their basic components of amino acids and is recombined as deemed necessary by the body. It isnt like if we eat long chained amino acids our body will take just these long chains and recombine them into longer chains. Our biochemistry makes it from simple molecules back to complex molecules. That is my personal trend of thought please share yours.

Sure you can formulate all this I will question this to you how much Whey protein are they giving you? what grade of whey protein? how much albumin do they put inside? What is their packaging facilities to do this? I would like to add that this WPC we bring in is at least 82% Protein by Dry Weight. So in a 10g scope your getting 8.2g of Protein! That is frigging value for money at the price we are selling the protein at not to mentioned export ready manufacturing facilities it is packaged in. Heck we even ship other products all over the show including Australia and New Zealand.

Manufacturing is a big process and as I mentioned we OEM for numerous big brands, so this Whey Protein is excess stock. If sales is maintained we will just order more in. Our key products are much higher value than Whey Proteins so management decided not to invest more capital in stocks to make a whey protein formulation.

This post has been edited by snackmonster: Oct 13 2011, 07:48 PM

am looking forward to this

should I jump on a ship and take leave now? haha

why?

Got this from one forum on making a batch of protein bars DIY

2 Cups Rolled Oats (500g)
1 Cup Whey Protein (250g)
1/4 Cup Raw nuts
1/4 Cup Dried Fruit
1/4 Cup 70% Dark Chocolate
1/4 Cup Soy Milk
1 Tablespoon 100% Natural Peanut Butter
1 Tablespoon Un-Pasturized Honey
1/2 Tablespoon Cinnamon
1 Teaspoon Vanilla Essence

Put all dry ingredients into Bowl 1
Add Oats, Protein, Nuts, Fruit and Cinnamon into a bowl, mix together.

Put all wet ingredients into Bowl 2
Add Dark Chocolate, Soy Milk, Peanut Butter, Honey and Vanilla Essence into a bowl, mix together and put in microwave for 30 seconds.

Stir microwaved mixture until smooth and pour into dry mixture, stir thoroughly and possibly mix with hands to ensure mixture is balanced and no ingredients are left in the bottom.

Put a piece of baking paper into a cake tin/baking tray and pour mixture on top, even out the mixture then place tray into the fridge for 20 minutes.

Once mixture has settled cut into slices, measurements will make a good batch of 8 protein bars with the following nutritional values.

1 Protein Bar approx.
Calories: 386
Carbs: 31.5g
Fat: 11.3g
Protein: 35.3g

They are pretty chewy and taste like a chocolate flavoured muesli bar.



This post has been edited by jphlau: Oct 20 2011, 08:43 AM

looks tasty...
but too lazy
so i eat everything seperately...
haha

good information here. thanks

Long time no see, snackmonster.

How's the formulation going on?

Yes, i agree with you ... 1Malaysia Protein maybe??
Everything must LOCALIZE..

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Added on October 21, 2011, 12:29 pmHmm.. Sound great.... Currently I am using pure HONEY and COOKED EGGS WHITE as pre workout supplement.. Post workout still stick to so called US Product..

2 full tablespoon PURE HONEY mix with 200ml water (Not from supermarket, from tok alang or pasar malam preferable) - To provide energy before training.
20 eggs white - To provide protein.

This formula i get from my uncle.. He is a bodybuilder in the 70's... Even my cousin using the formula now.. Damn good energy in gym and in bed too ..



This post has been edited by The_Rock: Oct 21 2011, 12:29 PM