QUOTE(mumeichan @ Apr 18 2011, 06:58 AM)
Heaven and hell is indeed a topic with a lot of confusion. A reason for it is because the people who translated the Bible translated many things to mean hell. I would say one would need a few read through of the Bible and knowledge about ancient Hebrew, Greek, Latin and understanding about early Judaism to get the idea of how the idea of hell changed over time. And also one has to consider why Bible translators choose to translate the Bible in a certain way. We can use a translated Bible, and say screw the interpretations of the translators and proceed to reverse-translate it using haphazard knowledge. And for this very reason, I believe such topical studies cannot be done through listening to people lecturing about it. It's something that must be initiated with clear purpose of understanding God more and willing to invest alot of time into it with one or more partners who are not afraid to challenge doctrines, yet willing to understand how the doctrines come into place in the beginning.
Personally I'm with aiyume that this should be a chat thread and serious theological stuff should go to RWI. I also think that atheistic stuff should go to RWI too. It's not quite appropriate to have part of this to be relax and chit chat, then comes some serious theological discussion and some contemptuous from atheist.
For whatever reason you do not believe in God and whatever your motivation is to enlighten us that God does not exist, this really isn't the place for it. And if you do not believe in God, you do not have to put us down by being silly here. And if you seriously think you have the duty to prove to us that God does not exist, then being more respectful might be the first step you want to consider. Otherwise, you're simply trolling in the thread.
You got it all wrong about Deadlocks. He wasn't defaming Christianity or trolling. Personally I'm with aiyume that this should be a chat thread and serious theological stuff should go to RWI. I also think that atheistic stuff should go to RWI too. It's not quite appropriate to have part of this to be relax and chit chat, then comes some serious theological discussion and some contemptuous from atheist.
For whatever reason you do not believe in God and whatever your motivation is to enlighten us that God does not exist, this really isn't the place for it. And if you do not believe in God, you do not have to put us down by being silly here. And if you seriously think you have the duty to prove to us that God does not exist, then being more respectful might be the first step you want to consider. Otherwise, you're simply trolling in the thread.
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We can talk about lots of things here, for examples.. gospels songs (Hillsong, etc), choirs, churches, bible knowledges, or even share our expriences with the Holy Spirit, our Lord, etc. Plus, if there's a chance, we may also go for a gathering or something, or even a trip together like visiting the other churches or do some charity works together. U can also inform us about any events that going on in ur churches, or any concerts & conferences in Malaysia. smile.gif
Remember, we're not promoting Christianity or trying to evangelize by this thread as its not allowed here. Therefore, we're only here to gather and talk about our daily life, our churches, gospel songs, events going on, or the concerts and conferences, even camps, etc. tongue.gif
*I'm not trying to make this thread into a flaming zone, but still, we welcome any religious forumers to join us here. So, if ur intended to come in here to insult our religion, please stay away from this thread. wink.gif And if u have any questions about the gospel songs, or even the churches, environments around the churches etc, feel free to ask. smile.gif
Remember, we're not promoting Christianity or trying to evangelize by this thread as its not allowed here. Therefore, we're only here to gather and talk about our daily life, our churches, gospel songs, events going on, or the concerts and conferences, even camps, etc. tongue.gif
*I'm not trying to make this thread into a flaming zone, but still, we welcome any religious forumers to join us here. So, if ur intended to come in here to insult our religion, please stay away from this thread. wink.gif And if u have any questions about the gospel songs, or even the churches, environments around the churches etc, feel free to ask. smile.gif
He simply just have a different idea of what "Hell" really is.
Apr 18 2011, 10:13 PM

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