baby still have vomit and diarrhea? In my opinion, the doctor should not have allowed him to discharge from hospital. It means the virus/bacteria causing the sickness is still there. Should have let the baby stay in hospital another day to monitor. Continue letting the baby use drips would have avoided the vomiting. Anyway, too late now. Just monitor the baby closely.

At this stage when vomitting and diarrhea still active. Most important is to provide fluid. Minimum solid food. If milk also causing vomit then maybe try fruit juice. Most important is not to let the baby dehydrate. He won't want to eat anything anyway.

Did the doctor take his stool sample for checking?

When my baby discharge on Fri, he was not having the vomit thingi. He first vomit 1 time on Sat, and no vomit on Sun.

Only today he started to vomit and diarrhea more.

How does dehydration look like or symptom of having it?

doctors in hospital can use urine output, pulse rate, blood pressure.....

this can be hard to perform for non-professionals...

the easiest for non-professionals to monitor would be 1)skin turgor (lightly pinch and lift the skin (usually done on the back of the hand)). the skin should return to usual position in less than 1 second in normal.


2) skin moistness (feel the skin using the back of your hand) if the skin feels dry, then there's dehydration.

3) mucous membrane. check the mucous membrane opening the mouth and look. the tongue and walls in the mouth should be moist in normal.

This post has been edited by slimey: Feb 21 2011, 07:07 PM

Thanks for the tip. Will monitor his progress. He already diarrhea 8 times today Can see he is lembik...

Just came back from buying Isomil Plus - Tanpa Laktosa 1-10. Tonight will try. Hope he is able to drink it and recover fast.

if continue for another day I think you better send back to hospital, actually what causes the fever? did bloodtest show anything?

y wait?
be safe, not sorry

laktose intolerant would cause diarrhea but not up to this level. This is like too much. Anyway, anything is possible. As long as no fever, then it's much better.

What does the stool looks like? Color? Maybe it's Rotovirus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotavirus

When he was in the hospital, his blood test was showing normal.

Yesterday, 8 times diarrhea, today 5 times. Watery diarrhea. Fever has gone away. Eating a little. Doctor said as long not dehydrated and no unusual thing, this is viral fever infection, have to monitor and it should go away few more days.

My mother got diarrhea and vomit today after handling my baby yesterday.... didn't know it can spread... so the advice is after cleaning up the baby, we have to clean our hands properly.

This post has been edited by auhckw: Feb 22 2011, 08:21 PM

My wife just told me that her friend's bb (about 20 months) also got the same viral fever with diarrhea now.

Guess where is the place both of our baby went before the viral fever happens? 1Utama Old Wing which is doing renovation at most of the shops especially near Jusco side. We went last Tues, my wife's friend went last Mon. Both bb got sick the next day.

According to our doctor and my friend's doctor.... both the doctor (in PJ area) said there are many cases of kids getting viral fever recently...

I don't wish to start any rumors or false alarm, but I would advice if you have kids, try to avoid going to Old Wing till their renovation is complete. Better be safe than sorry.

my bb just recovered from flu, friday nite fever started, saturday was near 40ºC, running nose and cough, but luckily sunday the fever subside. Now just running nose and cough, doc told me a lot of ppl catching flu. Ask us to try stay away from public places.

About 4 days ago my whole family of 10 people, ALL of us had bad diarrhea and vomiting for 2 days. We managed to trace the cause, my nephew got it from the kindergarten and started vomiting and diarrhea. The virus infected us when his grandmother washed him after his purging and probably didnt get her hands totally clean when she resumed cooking. Lots of people are suffering from the same virus here in KB and its surprising to learn that its happening in PJ too. We might have a pandemic developing here.

Anyway how is ur son coping with the lactose free milk? is he fussy towards it?

I'm definitely getting my 4mth old son a good thermometer very soon. I've also been told to stock on some medicine which is to be inserted into an infant's anus during seizure but i cant recall the name and its purpose. Hope you wont mind sharing it.

@Abubin: When a child is having diarrhea, he is not supposed to consume his regular formula milk as it contains lactose which will worsen the diarrhea. An alternative is to feed him nothing else but lactose free milk which are usually based on soya.

I have warned everyone about cleaning up hands properly after contacting with baby's poop or pee.

Now, my son is only taking very little milk (lactose free). Usually he can finish about 190ml, but now 90ml only. Porridge also 1/2 intake from his usual. We don't want to push him into eating more, scared he will vomit.

We bought the braun ear thermometer in the hospital's pharmacy. Cost us RM249 (I think should be cheaper elsewhere). Very fast result. Now my son knows whenever i said 'tit tit' means time for ear check. He will move his ears towards me.

The anal paracetamol that we got from the hospital is 'Voltaren'. To be used whenever baby's temperature will not go down after normal paracetamol intake from mouth. Above 38.5c can put in anal already, to be taken 6 hours once.

Oh dear me...thanks for sharing. I think it's best to not go out into crowded places for a time being.

Braun ear thermometer is not cheap..i was lucky that I exchanged my bonuslink points to get it.

Even if the baby does not have lactose intolerant feature?

edit: okay..googled for it and it make sense...

http://ibs.about.com/od/diarrhea/tp/DiarrheaFoodsAvoid.htm

This post has been edited by abubin: Feb 23 2011, 11:22 AM

just wanna add some information regarding the diarrhea treament in the house (if it is not in severe dehydration).
Actually the parents can also use ORS (oral Rehydration Salt) for diarrhoea.

So how much you wanna give?
usually the first thing is to encourage the child to frequently increase their fluid intake....but looking at their condition, it is very hard to do it.

so usually Dr will advice parents to add ORS solution with the milk, or just plain ORS solution. if your child is 2 years and below, 50-100 ml ORS should be given afterthe loose stools and if your child is 2 years or more, 100-200ml should be given after the episode.

You Child refuse to take ORS?
-parents can give a frequent small sips from cup or spoon
-if child vomit, just take your time 10-15 min, later continue the ORS

if your child is still breastfed, continue breast fed
food that contain high in sugar (simple sugar) should be AVOIDED!!! this will increase osmotic pressure thus will shift fluid flow from cell into lumen (Gut) then may cause diarrhoea....

click for more info regarding ORS preparation

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Added on February 23, 2011, 4:41 pmYes it is..
and may i add just a little bit more...
Sunken Eyes and Capillary refill Time

For Sunken Eyes:



For Capillary Refill Time
For normal the capillary refill time should be turn back for less than 2 seconds and if more than 2 seconds, it is dehydration



This post has been edited by mikewazowski: Feb 23 2011, 04:41 PM

Monday:-
Baby - 8x Diarrhea + 1x Vomit

Tues:-
Baby - 5x Diarrhea
Mother in Law: 3x Diarrhea + 3x Vomit

Today (time of posting):-
Baby - 4x Diarrhea. No fever. Eating not much.
Mother: 3x Vomit
Father: 5x Diarrhea

My parent's turn to get infected after taking care of my son...

This post has been edited by auhckw: Feb 23 2011, 07:45 PM

alamak sounds serious, next week my bb start kindergarten I'm worried about exposure if this virus is floating around.

Just a quick advice.

Febrile fit:

-won't damage brain
-Age 6months to 5 years. (unlikely to persist beyond 6 years of age)
-control fever properly with Paracetamol and Tepid sponging with warm water. NOT ICE Water plzzzz. Based on evaporation theory.

-Turn child on side to prevent aspiration of fluids into lungs.
-Dont put anything in mouth. Do more harm than good


Diarrhoea/Fever

- Drink more water preferably not drinks with too much sugar ( mineral water ) NOT 100plus. ORS aka Oral Rehydration Salt is awesome
- Reduce or replace cow's milk formula. Breast milk cannot stop
- REST. No shopping till late night with child.
- Again plz don't put ice or cold water on ur child. WARM Towel enough. We are not putting off a fire here.


Hope ur child has recovered.
God bless

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Added on February 24, 2011, 10:49 amThink I should add this. Dont think CHICKEN FEATHER for Chi Mo Tan works..More exposure to germs I think.

This post has been edited by henryhing: Feb 24 2011, 10:49 AM

Surprisingly, this "chi mo tan" method of treatment seems to work. I have had skepticism on this method as there are no known explanation on how this treatment method actually work.

However, I have had family members who had non-stop fever went for this treatment and it WORKS. Throughout my experience already seen at least three person went for this treatment and each one says it works. Including my daughter who was treated this method when she was 5 yo. I am still puzzled on how this works. So, if someone would care to do a study on this method and find out how it works then it will be great. Until then, I would not discount this method as an alternative treatment for unexplained fever that western medicine cannot handle.

So far today no diarrhea from him. He can drink more milk (lactose free). He is still weak when he is walking but at least a bit more active already.

Hope we can close this chapter... now left sick are the 4 adults who has taken care of him.

This post has been edited by auhckw: Mar 20 2011, 01:50 PM