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 -= myforte - naza kia forte owners club =- V10, Leaves You Speechless

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post Mar 1 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(darkplacid @ Mar 1 2011, 02:59 PM)
Hi Guys... Got my white Forte SX and the step at my boot area always get dirty easily... I saw a Forte having black rubber placed on the step.. Does anybody know what is it called?
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You mean the door sills/scuff plate?
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post Mar 18 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Mar 17 2011, 11:29 AM)
Loan RM70k  Period : 5 years

Maybank : 2.88%
Public : 2.73%
Affin : 2.68%

Finally I settled with Affin with 2.65% (nego)
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I get my loan from CIMB last year before Bank Negara increase the BLR 5.80% to 6.05% May 2010. I got it at 3.1%. BLR raise again by July 2010. I wonder how come now seem everyone can get the offer rate between 2.6X to 2.7X! I should have wait for the FL then... cry.gif
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post Apr 28 2011, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Apr 28 2011, 12:59 PM)
bro you should read more about kia in Wiki la http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Motors

no doubt kia founded in 1944 but that time only doing  steel tubing and bicycle parts by hand,

The company opened its first integrated automotive assembly plant in 1973, that is for assembly only,  not building car also (just like Naza), no double they can learn how to assembly a car but not building/manufacture a car.

At 1986, they partnership with ford and produce severer Mazda (Ford own Mazda) and Ford car. Just like porton at 1985 partnership with mitsu and produce saga, iswara and wira. The so called 90% local manufacturer WAJA onli launch in late 90s.

if not mistaken, they only start building their own car in 90s but got bankruptcy due to 1997 crisis. They really come from a hard way, not like our proton, being pampered and protected.

I would said, Kia and Proton almost start at the same time, but look at today's stand. Proton still being pampered and protected buy Kia is like 10 years ahead (or maybe more?)

Worst is Proton did not go forward but goes backward to 1985 and doing re-badge again for the Inspira...to boost the sales? to regain reputation? However this move benefit us as consumer to pay less 20-30k in getting this mitsu lancer
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Miserably, I have to admit to your points. Both of my wife and myself be the Proton car owner for more than 10 years, I do not feel the pride and glory to the fact of Malaysia producing our nation car, but I only feel the pains of government protectionism:
1. Nation car caused other car brands much expensive by raising the taxes of Proton rivals. Malaysian were suffered with extra burden to the car loan.
2. Government pour in the money (our taxes money!) to help up Proton, which conversely should use the money to develop the country, or use it in such a way to really benefit the people.
3. Seriously impacted Malaysia image as not actualize the ASEAN Free Trade Agreement (AFTA).

Probably, revoke such protectionism will be the only way to make Proton getting more aggressive and competitive, and make us proud of our nation car.
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post Apr 29 2011, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(ahtsong @ Apr 28 2011, 07:31 PM)
In econ point of view, to have proton is a good move. It reduce the $ flow out by buying product buatan malaysia. Imagine if we do not have P1 and P2, everyone rely on foreign car, how many RM will flow out from the country.

However good move must pair with good product in reasonable price. Frankly speaking, if persona can have something like forte, and sell at 40-50k, who wanna buy a forte. And this is achievable, provided we have a "clearner" gov, say no to "kawan-kawan" biz.

most car like pug308, forte, civic, altis +++ are selling from USD 15k - 22k in most country. thus a good quality persona which on par with forte in RM40-50k is achievable. and i will buy only Proton.
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This suppose the objective and mission of Proton to control RM flow out to other countries, and generate income to Malaysia by exporting buatan MY. However, this is not the case for rebadge other people product. Not really sure how they distribute the revenue, but I believe big portion will still flow to the hand of Mitsu.

Actualize AFTA may threaten the existence of Proton. But for sure it will be much stronger after survive from the tough business challenges, as what experienced by Kia in 1997 economy crisis, and that is why we have Korea car today.

No doubt, if Proton can create a car in par like Forte with similar or cheaper price, that will be my 1st option. At least, 2nd hand value, shortage of spare parts etc never be the topic here. smile.gif
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post May 10 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Daric @ May 9 2011, 07:26 PM)
my car got "tuk tuk" sound coming out from the left hand door site when drive through those not smooth Malaysia road.. any idea what wrong with it ? can it be fixed ?
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It can also cause by wrong way to put sunglass inside top compartment. Happen to me once sweat.gif spent me few days to figure it out....

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