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post Feb 22 2011, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(izputra @ Feb 22 2011, 07:59 AM)
If 6 speed Forte 1.6 runs 3k rpm @ 110km/h, then it is as good as the 4 speed Forte 1.6 that also runs 3k rpm @ 110km/h. With extra gear ratios under the hood (for 6 speed Forte 1.6), the rpm reading at 110km/h should be lower than that. Else, it serve no purpose for having extra gear other than smoother gear change  whistling.gif But keep in mind that, too many gear changes will contribute to extra power loss due to gear changing unless it comes with a dual clutch transmission or perhaps a CVT  (no gears in reality) that keep the power losses (during gear changing) to absolute minimum  sweat.gif

By the way, Forte 2.0 (4 speed) reads 2.4k @ 110km/h, so for 6 speed, i expect it should lower than this figure in order to gain any fuel saving benefits (as compared to 4 speed Forte 2.0) especially on highway cruising.

Forte 2.0 rpm at 110km/h (4 speed) with Auto Cruise on
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The rpm..is it 2.4k or 2.3k?  rolleyes.gif
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It's usually 2.4K rpm for 110kmh.

My best computer-calculated FC is 5.6L/100km... constant 100kmh cruising. But you'll rarely get these kind of readings unless all you do is cruise on highways. Get stuck in urban crawls and up it goes to 11.
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post Mar 5 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(LLH @ Mar 5 2011, 02:08 PM)
I think so..any 1st batch owners who have been using for >1yr can testify any problems so far?
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Apart from minor rattles which were fixed during my recent service, no major problems at all from Cera who is now 1 year and 2 months old.
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(westthen @ Mar 23 2011, 10:11 PM)
Hi,

How does metal bronze look like? Is it close to titanium sliver?

Thanks a lot! smile.gif
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In some angles, yes... but titanium silver and metal bronze is pretty distinct from each other.

Metal bronze is darker and has a 'brownish' hue; think ancient Greek sculptures.
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Under sunlight it becomes even darker.
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Titanium silver is more towards dark silver with a golden tinge when seen under dusky sunlight.
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More obvious in this angle.
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Under cool fluorescent light it becomes greyish-silver.
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I personally prefer titanium silver because I'm bloody biased. tongue.gif

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post Mar 24 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(derlin @ Mar 24 2011, 03:03 PM)
One more weird issue that I have was when I turn on the volume for my radio (volume 20) with Power Bass at Mid (Not even at High!), I can hear both doors (Passenger and Driver side) with some weird vibrating sound, like some part of the door is loose or like plastic hitting metal sound but I can't find where is it coming from and it's pretty darn annoying. Kinda beat the purpose of putting in Power Bass but you hear all sorts of funny funny sound coming from your car when you blast it, and 20 is not really considered as "blasting" yet.. sad.gif

The reception for the radio is horrible, along my drive to work today I can't really get a clear reception even though it's not raining.. My proton's radio works so much better than this.. hmm...


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WTF volume 20... sweat.gif

I normally set it at 6-7, and at 4-5 whenever I have passengers.

The vibrating sound is from the doors. The plastic of the door storage bins is quite thin and tends to shake with the bass. Try putting tiny loose items eg coins and keys there and you'll hear even more jitter. To work your way around it, put soft things eg a piece of cloth or foam into the storage bins before putting your items there. I've got an umbrella that fits snugly into the driver's side instead.

Radio reception is pretty mediocre, but why bother with radio stations when you have the USB input? My own songs are much better than the talk-cock by radio deejays.
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post Apr 2 2011, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Apr 2 2011, 06:10 PM)
yeah but have to really press lightly on pedal and know when to speed when not to speed..on highway u go 110-120 lightfoot, dont press too hard on the gas pedal u can get decent FC already
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For highway cruising, it's best not to go above 120kmh as your FC actually goes up. Constant cruising at 100kmh will give you the best results.
Well, you're not supposed to go above the speed limit of 110kmh anyway.

Full city driving with constant stop-and-go will cause the FC to reach 10-11L/100km (for 2.0L)... if you're stuck in jams on a regular basis, expect it to be even higher. Similarly if you drive like a maniac and upshift at 3.5K rpm everytime you'll hit 13L/100km easily... this is speaking from experience tongue.gif

The instant FC meter can be annoying as you'll be constantly focused on how low can the bar go instead of utilising the engine in its ideal torque range, and hence losing the fun of driving.
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post Apr 3 2011, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Apr 2 2011, 09:42 PM)
I only expecting 10L/100km though....  tongue.gif
9L/100km sound good to me.

Coz I'm experiencing 14.5L/100km for the time being my ride....
Different car size, engine capacity somehow...

Gonna get a 2.0 6speed and test drive then, on paper torque is even better than Civic 2.0L
Sound tempting to me for a car below 100k.
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14.5L/100km? you driving a V8?
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post Apr 5 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(vaio pavilion @ Apr 5 2011, 08:39 AM)
LOL my fuel avg at 10.5-11.5L/100km i'm speechless ah........
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Hm... meaning you're truly enjoying the ride thumbup.gif
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post Apr 8 2011, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 8 2011, 04:28 PM)
@400KM

12.4l/100km

1.6sx

anyone going TT tonite with HU changed? I want to see....
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stuck in jams all the time?
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post Apr 16 2011, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(luckykid5 @ Apr 16 2011, 12:48 AM)
jst wondering, the forte sedan is out for few years already. when will it have a facelift or design refresh?
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Eh?

The facelifted version IS the one with the 6 speed gearbox, and different grill/side mirror indicators.
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post Apr 19 2011, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(WEJ @ Apr 19 2011, 04:21 PM)
Updated picture Kia K2 drool.gif
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Shrunken Optima. Awkward design and lacks its big brother's aura. Despite the Optima details, a close look at the side profile reveals it to be much more similar to the Honda City than a miniature Optima.

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Horrible fog lamps though. The dash and central console looks dull and cheap.

I prefer the 2012 Rio.
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post Apr 20 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(WEJ @ Apr 19 2011, 09:21 PM)
Com-on la bro.What u aspect in deferent segment from KIA Optima to this KIA K2.This is B segment car(actually i like the rear lamp).If Car like Vios sale like hot cakes in Malaysia(u should compare Vios intrior-exterior with KIA K2).What u aspect.If Naza can get the car & price it at Rm50k-60k.Good for buyer la(Actually i doubt can do it-will kill new persona R la shakehead.gif  whistling.gif ).Just my opinion.If many people buy KIA car, we the owner of Forte should have the benefit rclxms.gif .
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I would expect Naza Kia to bring in the Rio instead of the K2 which for now, seems to be specially designed for the Chinese market. Not surprising really, given that many other car manufacturers tend to release certain models for China albeit in lower specs.

Really lower spec. o_O
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QUOTE(WEJ @ Apr 19 2011, 10:03 PM)
Updated intrior KIA K2 rclxms.gif
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The one of the left is the Rio's interior, which I feel does not suit the rather aggressive nature of the exterior. It's definitely a huge step up from the old Rio, but it's too conservative and similar to its younger sister the Picanto instead of having the sophisticated look of the Optima, or the clean, elegant look of the Cadenza.

The K2's interior is more likely to be this as seen in the spyshot, note the dull looking centre console.
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I personally detest carmakers using different air con vents in a car. It's a recent trend now - many newer models have funky round side vents with the traditional oblong central vents, which is not a cohesive design at all. The Forte does it well by sticking with vertical slits throughout instead of what the Rio is doing.

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post Apr 22 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(WEJ @ Apr 22 2011, 02:06 AM)
Updated news for KIA Rio Sedan 2012(New York 2011: Kia debuts all-new 2012 Rio with start-stop, good for 40 MPG) rclxms.gif .But I THINK LOOK LIKE MAZDA2 A Lil bit shocking.gif .Back look like KIA Koup.
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It actually looks worse than the concept pics I must say. The side profile is now more fluid, like a Mazda/Hyundai rather than the chiselled look of the Forte or the Optima.

Still a looker, just not what I've expected based on the original pre-production pictures.

Not that I care that much to be honest, since I'll be looking to upgrade to a higher segment (Optima) or go continental (Scirocco please VW Australia) in the future; far future that is.
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post Apr 23 2011, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(seanoys @ Apr 23 2011, 01:10 AM)
Guys I'm thinking rite..I'm maybe going to the states new York to further my studies..and I was wondering..can I buy the 2.4l fortekoup and then after 2 years bring back the car tax free? So bloody cheap man the cars there.. 14k USD for forte..
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No.

US cars are left-hand drives.

You're better off buying one in US and use it kao kao there. Study hard so that you graduate top of your class, then get a good paying job in M'sia then buy one IN M'sia. But by the time you graduate, come back and work, Kia might actually release newer (hopefully even better) cars.

Having said that, if you're in US you might want to check out the 2.0T SX Optima. Sure it's much bigger, heavier, has 4 doors compared to the Koup, but the engine has more grunt and you'll be able to ferry your mates around easier. It's 1 second quicker to the century sprint although it's slightly larger size may mean there's more inertia around corners, but hell you're not gonna race it every day.


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post Apr 23 2011, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(seanoys @ Apr 23 2011, 07:49 AM)
rclxms.gif aw man...yeah true...thinking get a car there use it kao kao.. i saw a few cars here in malaysia that is left hand drive..looks weird  rclxub.gif SEE LAAAA if i go to the US and get a KIA there.. i'll post it here and share it with u all.. hahahaha. yeah study hard and earn loads of money back here in malaysia hmm  sweat.gif
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I'd still say don't waste your money on expensive new cars if you're dead sure that you'll be back in 2 years' time. Unless you (or your parents) have too much money in the pocket.
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post Apr 25 2011, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 25 2011, 03:24 PM)
Same. Forte 2.0 and Sonata use Theta 2. Forte 1.6 use GEMA or GAMMA...

But of course, doesn't neccessary means they'll have the same problems.
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Uh uh. Wrong.

Singapore's Sonata taxis use common-rail diesel engines, not the Theta II petrol engine.

http://www.taxisingapore.com/taxi-companies/comfort-taxi/
http://www.taxisingapore.com/taxi-companies/citycab/
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post Apr 26 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Liuism @ Apr 26 2011, 10:00 AM)
what you said is right on, any other car value for their money besides forte?
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Peugeot 308.

Even Inspira.

But this only highlights how overpriced other cars are in M'sia, particularly B segments such as City/Vios/Fiesta/Latio, and we don't even need to talk about the other C segments, let alone European makes.

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