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 Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best v2, NP5160, NP5165, NP5175 w/ GT500 series

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lonelywolf90
post Feb 20 2011, 10:49 AM

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This thread seems dead..

It's bad news that we have to wait so long for SB laptops to be available without flaws..

Any of you already had 8150 or 8130?

It would be great to comment and review it here =)
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post Feb 20 2011, 05:51 PM

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Lol, hopefully the amount of posts increases in this thread once Sager SB laptops are on sale again =)

By the way, no one owns a Malibal in Malaysia right?
The laptops are very impressive with a simple exterior design, wow.
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post Feb 24 2011, 09:25 AM

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Ya,exactly!!

Malibal is alot cheaper in fact, especially the upgrades, very cheap upgrade costs =)

But they are based in US only, sad..

I hope the SB issue is over fast!! =(
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post Feb 24 2011, 12:25 PM

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Lol, it is definitely able to ship to Malaysia.

But the main point is that it is based in US, the warranty issue would be troublesome as we need to ship it back to US for them to repair. Unless, we don't care much about the warranty?
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post Feb 24 2011, 03:09 PM

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Ya,actuali, is there a Sager warranty or service centre based at KL or sumwhere in Malaysia?

I might be planning to purchase a 8150 if the G53 is too costly with a 2720QM =(
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post Feb 25 2011, 09:26 AM

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Sure Vital Computers can do warranty for us even if we don't buy our Sager laptops from them?
I plan to buy from US still,either from Ken or XoticPc.

Btw,Malibal doesnt have free US shipping?
U could try shipping it to comgateway then ship it to Msia,datz more economical.
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post Mar 8 2011, 11:33 PM

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Actually, I'm very curious about one thing; sound quality..
The stock Sager 8150 and 8130 is a 2.1 sound card..

Is it any better as the MSI GT680/GX660 or the ASUS G53?

Sound does improve gaming experience after all XD

If I want to buy this Sager lappy, I'd have to invest in upgrading the sound card too, is it advisable?
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post Mar 9 2011, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Mar 9 2011, 12:56 AM)
which is also what im doing
im buying the usb creative x-fi 5.1 ext soundcard to pair with the 8150
i bet you wont be using its speaker if you are really gaming for real  icon_rolleyes.gif
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USB?
Isn't it better to replace Sager's 2.1 sound card?
I heard USB sound card is not as reliable as the built-in sound card.

True,when we game, sound matters wink.gif
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post Mar 9 2011, 05:42 PM

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So, purchasing these USB sound cards are definitely worth the price?
In your opinion, what are the differences between the USB X-Fi and the built in Realtek?

Are the differences obvious?
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post Mar 10 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 10 2011, 07:19 AM)
The Realtek ones in laptops are pretty squeeky in terms of sound. High treble issues, and very common in many laptops. Not only this, it runs off the motherboard and adds a bit of strain on it. The Realtek has a cool feature that you can change the key of the speakers (kinda like increasing/decreasing the pitch). If you tweak it a bit, the Realtek can be a decent card.

The USB X-Fi was designed to run independently from the laptop.

It has better software packages, surround sound support and Creative only features (e.g. Crystallizer, robust equalisations). Well, in simpler terms, you get more "umph" in your bass, and better treble. The only downside is that you have to have external speakers/headphones. There's a very big difference in quality, but I can't show you that right now as I am at work now haha.

But if you're not too bothered about the sound, the Realtek is actually still a good card to have and also good for those who do not have speakers/headphones. If you're tight on money then just go for Realtek...unless you can haggle in Lowyat Plaza. Got my X-Fi for RM190.
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Well, your sound card seems to be a good buy huh?
I'll check out Low Yat when I ever drop by at KL, haha..

But what the Sager 8150 has is a 5.1 THX TruStudio Sound isn't it?

I wonder if their built-in speakers are powerful and crisp =/

By the way, when will the GTX560M 1.5GB be released for the 8150?

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post Mar 10 2011, 05:02 PM

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NP8150-S1

CPU: I7-2720QM
Core Logic: 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ Chipset HM65
Memory: 8GB DDR3
Display: 15.6" (16:9) Full HD (1920x1080) LED-BackLit Display with Matte Finished Screen
Graphic: NVIDIA® GeForce™ GT 460M GPU 1.5GB GDDR5
Storage: 750 7200 Sata II/ 500g 7200 Sata II plus Intel 4g
Wireless Card: Intel Ultimate-N 6300 Wifi
OS: No OS
MS Office: MS Office Starter 2010
Optical Disk Drive: 6x Blu Ray Reader + DVD Combo
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond
Sager Carrying Bag
Warranty: 1 Year US Sager warranty (Parts) + 1 Year Regional Carrying (Warranty Can be extended)/ Msia Technican Onsite Repair (No need shipment to US)

1 HDMI output Port
1 DVI-I output Port
2 USB 3.0 Ports
2 USB 2.0 Ports (one with Power Share)
1 eSATA Port (USB combo)
1 IEEE-1394a Fire Wire
1 Headphone Jack
1 Microphone Jack
1 Line-In Jack
1 S/PDIF output Jack
1 RJ-45 LAN (10/100/1000Mbps)

What does the warranty mean? 2 years or only 1 year for Msia?
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post Mar 11 2011, 09:25 AM

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Ya,every laptop is 2.1 speaker, aren't they?

But usuali Tru Studio is 5.1 from what I heard, isn't it?Standard nowadays.
Otherwise, the older 1 would be 4.1.

Well, it isn't powerful because the G74SX featured in Cebit 2011 had a 128 bus width and 1GB DDR5 memory. By default, it should be 192 bus width and 1.5GB GDDR5.

580m or 6970m too costly and power hungry ><

If the default config was released, I'm sure it's more powerful.
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post Mar 12 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 11 2011, 11:34 AM)
Yeah, just as lee_what says, most laptops are 2.0 speakers.

5.1 THX TruStudio is just the program included, that allows 5.1 to be emitted from a set of 5.1 speakers if you have them (I think, I have to confirm this when I get the laptop next week)

Anyway, regarding the GPUs. The 6970m is cheaper than the GTX 485m and performs almost equally, but I would think the GTX 580m is priced higher than both (obviously it's leagues higher than the other two). Power hungry isn't an issue if you're ordering the NP8170 or the NP8150; both have 180W power adapters. The issue pops up when you are using the NP8130, with the 120W power adapter.
Also, an update on the orders worldwide. The laptops have begun shipping to customers yesterday (Thursday). Finally, the wait is over!
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Sure, do confirm me when you get it. Do a review, a brief and detailed one, that is =D
For my case, I think a 5.1 is actually good enough, haha.
I just want a great sound quality and clarity to boost my gaming experience.

Actually I wanna ask something about power supply, I've been confused over the 8150 and 8130.

Assume that I buy the same spec of 8150 and 8130.
In what way does it affect if I used a bigger power supply like 8150 has compared to 8130 which only has 120W?
Cooling?
Does higher wattage provide a more stable system?

Do educate me more, haha XD
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post Mar 13 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 12 2011, 11:32 PM)
The bigger power supply allows concrete solution for future upgrades. If you scrape the 180W adapter on the 8130 then it would be viable for higher power consumption GPUs and CPUs. However, if you run a 120W with the GTX 485m, the card would not perform as well as it would.
No. Clevo decides to remove the integrated solution for the higher end cards due to driver incompatibilities with some games (e.g. Punkbuster may think you're hacking, weird).
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What if I don't plan to upgrade at all?
Then the 8130 is just fine with me? And the cooling in 8130 and 8150 is just the same right?

8150 has rubber finish while the 8130 has a plastic finish.
Rubber finish is definitely better right?

Another irony is that the 8150 has a glossy display while the 8130 has a matte display, it's just so hard to decide!!
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post Mar 14 2011, 09:00 AM

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I looked at the reviews, it seems that the rubber finish is hard to maintain since it is hard to clean as compared to plastic and it attracts dust.

Right?
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post Mar 14 2011, 03:13 PM

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I noticed another difference between 8130 and 8150.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I found out that 8150 has more speakers compared to 8130.

Is it true?

If it is, then it should be true that 8150 has better sound system as compared to 8130 right?

Another question, Sager doesn't utilise UEFI rite?
ASUS G53 does =(
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post Mar 14 2011, 04:23 PM

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But when u check Gentech, 8150 has 5 speakers whereas 8130 has 2 speakers n 1 subwoofer.

Check them out.

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...Product_Count=1

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...Product_Count=3
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post Mar 16 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(okf987 @ Mar 16 2011, 01:31 PM)
Looking forward to it!
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=D
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post Mar 17 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(This is a Lamp @ Mar 16 2011, 07:31 PM)
Video review of what lol.

EDIT:

I did a small one...regarding the speakers. This is to show how it sounds like, that 2.1 speakers it has. It sounds amazing actually, very impressed.

This will be in the full review later.


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Weird, what is shown in Gentech at the specs list is that the np8150 has 5 built-in speakers..

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...Product_Count=1

Typo?
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post Mar 17 2011, 08:45 PM

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Well, since the 8150 can pack so much wattage, I don't think it's impossible.. Being able to support the GTX485m means that it can definitely support high end cards like the ATI 6970 too =)

We just gotta wait till 6970 is avaiable for 8150.
However, Nvidia has much mor stable drivers, I'd still stick with Nvidia.My opinion anyways =)

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