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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V5, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 22 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Feb 22 2011, 04:06 PM)
orang miskin here bro ... plus i dont think i can afford FX lenses ...    cry.gif


Added on February 22, 2011, 4:07 pm

yup ... still can find new ones ... going for RM4.8k ...
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4.8K? add a thousand more & you'll get the 2470N!!

Btw, I can get the 2470 at 4930 NEW, Nikon Malaysia set from official source.. don't ask.. secret...
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post Feb 22 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 22 2011, 04:22 PM)
Go for D3s + 24-70.
You might regret once D700 replacement is out, just a sincere advice from me smile.gif
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Double the money man...and we're talking 5 figures.

I don't want to play the waiting game. Plus.. the D700 replacement price will be more expensive. It won't be 6k & early shipments would probably be limited & need to order and wait some more.

I buy is what I need... not so much as want. I make a living from taking pics. The D700 satisfies my need. Plus the D3s' only significant difference is the high ISO performance. For now I'm not taking wedding/event pics at ISO 12800.

If only the D3s has higher megapixels like the 5DmkII, then I would be more inclined to buy the D3s because I do print out large sized media. The only reason I didn't go for the 5DmkII is because of the slow autofocus and not so durable/weather sealed body.

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post Feb 22 2011, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 22 2011, 04:33 PM)
Sure or not? Get me 1 5 copies come whistling.gif
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Sure laa.. 2470N at 4930...and also other Nikon items.. all new set
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post Feb 22 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 04:47 PM)
Spill the bean!!!
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cannot spill the bean la on this one.. hehehehe brows.gif but it's good to know the 70200VR2 is under 6k nEW!

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post Feb 22 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 05:53 PM)
1635 is new 1735 is old.

1635 is f/4 1735 is f/2.8

1635 has VR and Nanocoat, 1735 does not have.

Lastly, 1635 IQ is better than 1735.
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1 more thing... for maybe this one reason; the aperture at 2.8.. the 1735 is more expensive & harder to get new.

Otherwise... the 1635 has the advantage.
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Feb 22 2011, 06:04 PM)
spill the bean or it is just your imagination
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I can't spill the bean so as to make the d700, 2470, sb900 my reality. Seriously.. the 70200 is under 6K, and it's new, no it's not stolen, not grey set.

I'm still considering if I want to start selling nikon equipments to other people... hmm.gif


I'll update you guys the next month if i wanna sell nikon stuffs at lower than street price..
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 06:10 PM)
How much is a 24G? I want one leh if price is good.
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my goodness.. KTCY and you want this aar? walawei.. wait2.. tomorrow I'll update you guys.. banyak duit these 2 guys.


Added on February 22, 2011, 6:14 pm
QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 06:12 PM)
If you're getting a 70200VR2 below 6k, means you're shaving about 1k off the street price. Wah... can grab a lot of lens lor~
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I'm not getting one just yet.. but it is around that price.

next month wanna get me a 2470.. haha.. have to buy one buy one slowly.. if not my eyes will pusing2 already because too many new toys to play with..

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post Feb 23 2011, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 07:02 PM)
My friend whose a 5dmk2 user tells me otherwise. He usually take a few shots because to compensate for any miss focus.
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That's really bad for a DLSR that expensive. Guess canon isn't delighting you always..

For that, there's always Nikon...


Added on February 23, 2011, 3:50 am
QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 22 2011, 08:00 PM)
mind to recommend me some good bag

Currently in mind is lowepro fastpack , flipside and crumpler 6 millionz

I wan the bag can put charger , alot personal things ...4 lenses 2 bodies =D ....
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Look at Vanguard Uprise 46 or 48 & Vanguard Skyborne 48 - Highly padded & reallllly comfortable at the back. There are some review videos in youtube too..

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post Feb 23 2011, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 22 2011, 06:30 PM)
KTCY bought his already, I'm thinking of getting one tongue.gif. If got good deal why not? On the side note, can get HB-55 or not? LOL. Damn hard to get this la~
Perspective is between 85mm on D90 and D700.

70200 examples also can see from my Flickr geh~ tongue.gif More for lazy people,

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I'll try & find out whether it is available...the HB55 i mean.. for more expensive stuffs, I'll try & find out too..

BTW, yum yummy.. I love the pics rclxms.gif


Added on February 23, 2011, 7:51 am
QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 22 2011, 08:11 PM)
I think you're going to be more heartache when the D3s gets replaced...
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Yup yup... nod.gif

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post Feb 23 2011, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 22 2011, 10:39 PM)
For the sake of yourself and our fellowship of Nikonians, please do so and start it immediately notworthy.gif
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I'll try.. seriously I'll try. Not exactly now though.. maybe I'll start early march if I really wanna do it... I'll try if I can sell some lenses first. and then maybe DSLR bodies etc. Strictly Nikon stuffs...

I'll try & get the Malaysian Nikon 'NPS' strap for myself first.. hehehe.. eventhough I don't qualify.


Added on February 23, 2011, 8:02 am
QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 22 2011, 11:35 PM)
Woahh.. spam pictar lar broo.. make me want to buy it please.. xD
Actually I still haven't find my best range for portrait.
35mm is good but a little too close to the subject.
Dear all..
for those who have the budget fast fast grab this xD
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1764361
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For that price or just a tad lower, I can easily get a brand spanking NEW D3s. Seriously. But guys....hold your horses... i'm still not selling nikon stuffs just yet..


Added on February 23, 2011, 8:06 am
QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Feb 23 2011, 02:44 AM)
Good read. Btw bro can you post some pics example of the two touch please? AF-D smile.gif
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I need to korek2 my hdd first... see where's the pic.. hehehe

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 23 2011, 03:50 AM)
Don't expect miracle bro. Can get 1080i video, 21MP, quite decent ISO performance, and about same price as D700, you expecting it's focusing performance to be on par with D700 also? Like that who will buy D700?

Plays fair dude. It's reasonable  sleep.gif
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I don't expect the 5DmkII to be on par at all with D700/D3 auto focus system. If I'm not mistaken it has the exact focusing system as the old 5D.

I guess like kenrockwell said, it's more suited to landscape photography. I love taking landscape photos too but I also do events & weddings & minor sport shoots for golfs. Yup there are numerous wedding photographers (which are my friends) using the 5DmkII & they are fine with it or so they tell me... I guess I'm so used with Nikon's superb AF that I cannot fathom the 5DmkII's AF system sweat.gif .. Once you go DARKSIDE, you'll never go back.

p.s. I tested the 7D. I have to salute canon on the 7D AF system. It is much more superior to it's FF brother the 5DmkII.

But build quality and durability wise.. D700 wins hands down

I'm not going to Antartica but it's good to know: thumbup.gif

Look at the "Nikon" & "Canon" part. There's no strength in numbers... cool2.gif
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/aa-07-worked.shtml

Look at the "Failures" part...
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/a...09-worked.shtml


Added on February 23, 2011, 9:26 am
QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 23 2011, 07:16 AM)
The 5Dmk2's infamous focus issue ma. Heck even the 1dmk3 has this issue too, situation improved in the 1dmk4.

This is why the D3/D700 from Nikon manage to capture some of the FF share from Canon. Before this Canon dominating FF segment ma.
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Yup2.. The infamous 1Dmk3's problematic AF system... It's a hardware problem. That's bad for a flagship product.


A quote from a an admin of a forum:

"The focus issue is real. Canon's actions clearly establish this as fact.
Debating this reality is only a source of controversy, and needless at this point in time.

1. There was and is a problem with the MkIII. This is not longer a debate, it is fact.
2. Most of the released units to date may be effected.
3. Canon will be implementing a process to repair the MkIII"


Added on February 23, 2011, 9:28 am
QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Feb 23 2011, 07:38 AM)
And some very little issue on it doesn't make people won't buy it also. I've seen lots of nice images from the so-called-flawed 5d2. Well said bro celciuz.
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It's not flawed.. it's just slow. That's all.

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post Feb 23 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 23 2011, 07:42 AM)
It has something to do with the AF system, it not fast and accuracy is just so so where else the D3/D700 etc from Nikon excels. That is why more and more jumping ship, in an event the moment won't wait for your focus :-).

But of course, the 5dmk2 is excellent for studios, portrait, landscape etc as you've ample of time to ensure a spot on focus. Not to mention with sufficient lighting (studio) and also high megapixels!
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Spot on bro! thumbup.gif

I've went on a job assignment and met with some media pros including Bernama, Astro Awani & several other media photo/videographers. Talked to one reporter from Astro Awani, and I talked about the D3s and he said most of the guys there that have their D3s just changed system from canon to nikon because their companies changed brand & there's a lot of media companies that are doing that. He said it's a bit of pain for em because most of them are used to canon and now they have to get used to using nikon. I asked why the media companies changed system... he was reluctant to say & just changed the topic after that (probably because he is a canon user himself) blink.gif A good example of NEED vs WANT.
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post Feb 23 2011, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 23 2011, 10:29 AM)
Maybe the guys were complaining that they didn't get any shot due to slow focus tongue.gif. Just kidding haha!
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 23 2011, 12:01 PM)
I believe that's a very old statement. Canon has already re-called and provided a "fix" but it still remains a problem if I'm not mistaken. What I heard is the 1D Mark IV while better at AF, it introduces new set of AF problems.
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Yup it was an old statement dating around 2007 I think... Yup, I've also read about photographers sending their 1Dm3 for repairs/service but when they got it back the problem still persists even when they send it in the 2nd time... I'm not sure if they ever got it fixed at all. The hardware problem is much harder to fix.... I feel sorry for those people...

For 5Dm2 there's numerous firmware updates that upgrades stuffs & fixes a lot of problems, glitches or whatever..maybe because it has video mode.

I wonder why the D700 has so few firmware updates.... rolleyes.gif

I'm not sure about the 1Dm4 af problems... guess I'm better of in the DARKside.


Added on February 23, 2011, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 23 2011, 12:10 PM)
My friend's 1Dmk4 went back to Canon for almost 1 month to 'fix' the AF module. He was complaining about focusing inaccurate, the shooting the same thing under lowlight and focusing it twice with the AF, one shot can be sharp another can be slightly off focus.

Took back, so far his feedback is more or less similar LOL.
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My goodness... shakehead.gif Three years warranty but no satisfaction in using the product... That's the cream of the crop for canon... shocking.gif

Definitely made my mind... D700 it is.. hehehehe biggrin.gif ... Did i mention my friend got his D3 for just 6K NEW back in late 2009? Frickin unbelievable but true... He bought it and used it with an AFD 50 1.4...hehehe.. Same source as mine.. clearing stock or something...


Now I can sleep soundly & dream of wonderous stuffs... tongue.gif



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