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post Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM, updated 15y ago

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hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:26 AM

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pls pm me, but seriously 10k is abt 3k usd, you can't buy much
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post Feb 10 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Monsterjin @ Feb 10 2011, 10:26 AM)
pls pm me, but seriously 10k is abt 3k usd, you can't buy much
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thanks, yea but start small and ill be buying more stocks a as times goes by

just need to know how to do it.
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post Feb 10 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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i don't think 10k is enough to be honest.

not attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not be beneficial.

to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee.

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Better try to invest in KLSE stock market first..
10k is a good start in KLSE
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:51 AM)
i don't think 10k is enough to be honest.

not attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not beneficial.

to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee.
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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The board lot in US is 1 share. So, technically, as long as u have around USD 358 which is apple current price, you can invest already. Open an account with a US based broker rather than a Malaysia one as the Malaysian-based charges will probably kill you. Google for discount brokers in US. Some transaction fees can be a low as 2-3USD. Interactive brokers can go as low as USD 1 but your capital is not sufficient to open an Interactive brokers account. Transferring money to and from US will set you back at another RM200-300. But, if you are there in the long term, this shouldn't be a problem. Only use cash that you can afford to invest, if the 10k is the cash that you can afford, meaning you have other money set aside, this should not be a problem as you don't need to withdraw and bank in money that often.

You can also gain exposure by buying options, which is much cheaper than buying the shares itself. For longer term, I think Apple should have LEAPS, so can buy that also. But, if you are inexperienced, start with plain vanilla equity first.

BTW, this is an opinion on how to buy shares, not the shares itself. Buy at your own risks and do the due diligence.

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post Feb 10 2011, 12:33 PM

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Why Apple?

Why not others?

And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No?
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QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 10 2011, 12:33 PM)
Why Apple?

Why not others?

And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No?
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at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy.


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post Feb 10 2011, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:51 AM)
i don't think 10k is enough to be honest.

not attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not be beneficial.

to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee.
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thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first.

QUOTE(the snowball @ Feb 10 2011, 12:30 PM)
The board lot in US is 1 share. So, technically, as long as u have around USD 358 which is apple current price, you can invest already. Open an account with a US based broker rather than a Malaysia one as the Malaysian-based charges will probably kill you. Google for discount brokers in US. Some transaction fees can be a low as 2-3USD.  Interactive brokers can go as low as USD 1 but your capital is not sufficient to open an Interactive brokers account. Transferring money to and from US will set you back at another RM200-300. But, if you are there in the long term, this shouldn't be a problem. Only use cash that you can afford to invest, if the 10k is the cash that you can afford, meaning you have other money set aside, this should not be a problem as you don't need to withdraw and bank in money that often.

You can also gain exposure by buying options, which is much cheaper than buying the shares itself. For longer term, I think Apple should have LEAPS, so can buy that also. But, if you are inexperienced, start with plain vanilla equity first.

BTW, this is an opinion on how to buy shares, not the shares itself. Buy at your own risks and do the due diligence.
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thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again.
hmm so around 8-9 lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested.
yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade.
may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further.


QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 10 2011, 12:33 PM)
Why Apple?

Why not others?

And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No?
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invest in local market is good but depends on which company.
apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:21 PM)
at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy.
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definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:21 PM)
at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy.
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 02:24 PM)
thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first.
thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again.
hmm so around 8-9  lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested.
yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade.
may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further.
invest in local market is good but depends on which company.
apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good.
definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000.
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Ah, I see. Too bad I'm know nuts about stock.
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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1 unit is 358.16USD aka RM1074.xx which means you can buy about 8 unit max after commission, assuming the wire rate is 2.95 per 1USD.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 02:21 PM)
at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy.
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hmm.gif what solid reason it hav? besides more market capitalization?

QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 03:24 PM)
thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first.
thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again.
hmm so around 8-9  lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested.
yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade.
may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further.
invest in local market is good but depends on which company.
apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good.
definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000.
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what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? wink.gif
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 02:35 PM)
hmm.gif what solid reason it hav? besides more market capitalization?
what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? wink.gif
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you do not need to be a finance guru to figure why apple is a good buy.

the most recent GFC is a good predictor of apple IMHO.

it outperformed itself and its competitors and can definitely be classified as a 'recession proof' company.
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 02:35 PM)
hmm.gif what solid reason it hav? besides more market capitalization?
what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? wink.gif
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speculation and if you take a look back few years back, apple has been gaining itself and become onf the most valuable company in the world, if i've much more cash i'd definitely invest in apple stocks but since 10k is just a limited budget and after pondering about the fees that i've to paid to convert myr-usd and misc fees ill have to look for another option i guess.
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wat goes up, mus cum down, its a cycle & I wanna short aapl once its trend changes wub.gif
look at its Short % Increase 50.44% drool.gif
http://shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=aapl&submit=Short+Quote%99

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why not try apple-c4?
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:47 PM)
you do not need to be a finance guru to figure why apple is a good buy.

the most recent GFC is a good predictor of apple IMHO.

it outperformed itself and its competitors and can definitely be classified as a 'recession proof' company.
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not heading for bubble? wink.gif
i prefer google over this. as its more solid recession proff & you sure need it to find job. laugh.gif


QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Feb 10 2011, 03:55 PM)
wat goes up, mus cum down, its a cycle & I wanna short aapl once its trend changes  wub.gif
look at its Short % Increase 50.44%  drool.gif 
http://shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=aapl&submit=Short+Quote%99

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agree with, wat goes up must come down.
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 02:59 PM)
not heading for bubble? wink.gif
i prefer google over this. as its more solid recession proff & you sure need it to find job. laugh.gif
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agree with, wat goes up must come down.
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i don't understand this part.

kindly elaborate.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 04:03 PM)
i don't understand this part.

kindly elaborate.
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for apple, it need market to get it level well, like apples product, apple apps. new stuff every 6 to 12 months..

while google, basically. its alrdy the search engine you need. Marketing, etc.. you dont need it but it make you like need it.


Its like buying tulips..do you need them? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 03:18 PM)
for apple, it need market to get it level well, like apples product, apple apps. new stuff every 6 to 12 months..

while google, basically. its alrdy the search engine you need. Marketing, etc.. you dont need it but it make you like need it.
Its like buying tulips..do you need them? whistling.gif
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i would say, it depends on your type of return preferences; whether it is dividend or capital gain (or both)

the way i look at it, apple has a lot of room to increase in share prices as opposed to google (IMHO of course)

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Why should prioritize on shares rather on physical gold? could get more than 50gram of gold bar. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:03 PM)
i don't understand this part.
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Apples price is about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.

This kind of gadget, you need constant innovation to drive sales.

If there is no new Iphone 5 in the next 2-3 years in the pipeline, we may see people not that enthusiasm about buying Iphone already.
You need constant on top to maintain the sales.
Unlike, old fashioned business like palm pil, everyday you produce palm oil only.
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Apples price is NOT just about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.
Before these there were Mac, iMac, MacAir and others.

Apples price is about Steve Job & innovation. His ability to produce and something that consumer dun realised they need it!
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/forums/view...d/79946/#539393
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what if Steve job is no longer there?this is also one of the risks....
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WHY AAPL?

For tech stocks, there are much better out there.
ATML, CRUS, MU, ARMH, and somehow related to AAPL.

For brokers : visit here -http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1476526

I trade US Stocks daily.

Wire cost you USD25/- and another RM15-25 from here.


10,000, u will get : Selling TT USD @ 3.1160
10,000-25 = 9975/3.1160 = $3201.22 - $25 (US Broker Bank fee)

$3,176.21

Broker Fee @ 2.95$ per trade
AAPL today $358.16
You can get maximum 8 shares with total cost $2,868.23.

To get return, you need to ensure that AAPL traded $359.00

The balance buy CRUS at $24.08
Balance :
$3,176.21 - $2,868.23 = $307.98 x 10 CRUS

PORTFOLIO :
AAPL $2,868.23 @ 8 shares
CRUS $243.75 @ 10 shares
Balance : $64.23




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zamans.. thanks you for step by step guide, smile.gif can i know how much price for mc donald share?


QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 05:23 PM)
WHY AAPL?

For tech stocks, there are much better out there.
ATML, CRUS, MU, ARMH, and somehow related to AAPL.

For brokers : visit here -http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1476526

I trade US Stocks daily.

Wire cost you USD25/- and another RM15-25 from here.
10,000, u will get : Selling TT USD @ 3.1160
10,000-25 = 9975/3.1160 = $3201.22 - $25 (US Broker Bank fee)

$3,176.21

Broker Fee @ 2.95$ per trade
AAPL today $358.16
You can get maximum 8 shares with total cost $2,868.23.

To get return, you need to ensure that AAPL traded $359.00

The balance buy CRUS at $24.08
Balance :
$3,176.21 - $2,868.23 = $307.98 x 10 CRUS

PORTFOLIO :
AAPL $2,868.23 @ 8 shares
CRUS $243.75 @ 10 shares
Balance : $64.23
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Feb 10 2011, 05:28 PM)
zamans.. thanks you for step by step guide, smile.gif can i know how much price for mc donald share?
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About $75. For me AAPL make much more money for me than MCD.

PS there are the only 2 NYSE share I'm familiar with.

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of coz la, u since 1986, tat time I still virgin & play guli onli brows.gif

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 05:38 PM)
About $75. For me AAPL make much more money for me than MCD.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 12:22 AM)
AAPL is the best share I've ever invested since 1986!
So many grandchildren!
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Fuhhh...you plat AAPL since 1986? How many millions you made to date? brows.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 05:38 PM)
About $75. For me AAPL make much more money for me than MCD.

PS there are the only 2 NYSE share I'm familiar with.
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thanks for the tips. if you're not hesitate, how much shares that you bought for AAPL and do you think 8 slots is sufficient for time being?

im a type of investors looking for short term investment high/moderate ROI
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 01:22 PM)
AAPL is the best share I've ever invested since 1986!
So many grandchildren!
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So since 1986, after 25 years how much have you made?

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 01:22 PM)
AAPL is the best share I've ever invested since 1986!
So many grandchildren!
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Amazing holding power. notworthy.gif You hold Apple longer than I am alive lol...I think most people would have sold it when Apple nearly get wiped out by microsoft in the 1990s before a capital injection by microsoft help save the day....again, congrats for your return notworthy.gif


QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2011, 09:01 PM)
So since 1986, after 25 years how much have you made?
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Go to google finance here : http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL, drag the chart and you will know roughly how much he made, my guess is at least 10000% but should be more than that.



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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 08:17 PM)
thanks for the tips. if you're not hesitate, how much shares that you bought for AAPL and do you think 8 slots is sufficient for time being?
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2011, 09:01 PM)
So since 1986, after 25 years how much have you made?
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OMG, so typical M'sian way of asking for personal stuff. biggrin.gif


Anyway, a lot of money hiding in AAPL especially institutions.
Buy'ing calls ahead of product announcement or potential sales have been very rewarding. brows.gif

The risk is like Cherroy had mentioned: constant innovation to drive sales.

Competitions are coming esp. from GOOG and others.. but AAPL still a few steps ahead of the game.

and..S.Jobs better not die before iPhone5 is out. wink.gif


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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 05:07 PM)
Apples price is NOT just about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.
Before these there were Mac, iMac, MacAir and others.

Apples price is about Steve Job & innovation. His ability to produce and something that consumer dun realised they need it!
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/forums/view...d/79946/#539393
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No doubt about it, but still as a tech company, you constantly need to innovate, outclass your rival, make some product people want to have it, want to change it.
Without it, sales could drop in the long term future, unlike McD, or Coca-Cola, even without any special invention, your sales will stay pretty constant throughout, just need advertisement to boost it in between.

Apples share price surge lately few years, is not because of Mac, but Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.
Back then without those 3, Apples share is not like what is today.

Frankly speaking, Apples produce some product, that people want it, not actually need it.
Most people use Iphone for what?
Voice call, surfing the net. --- Other smart phone also have the feature, but Apples produce something people want it.
It is like produce a branded stuff that make people want to buy it, instead of need it.

People need flash, but Iphone and Ipad don't support flash.
People need USB 3.0 interface, but Apples product don't have it (or yet)

Above just my opinion, I could be wrong. Just post what I known.


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is AAPL leads the stock market rather than Google now ?
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QUOTE(nandayryu @ Feb 10 2011, 10:25 PM)
is AAPL leads the stock market rather than Google now ?
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AAPL is the second most valuable stock, or the second most expensive company, (shares x market price), just after ExxonMobil, last time I updated.


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QUOTE(nandayryu @ Feb 10 2011, 10:25 PM)
is AAPL leads the stock market rather than Google now ?
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google has smaller market cap but has higher stocks lot price

and yea apple one of the most valuable market company -- even more expensive than microsoft.

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Can buy :
Coca Cola (KO) $63
McDonald (MCD) $75.80
AAPL 359.40
Pepsi-Cola (PEP) $63.33
Krispy Donut $7.17
Starbucks $33.05
KFC (YUM) 49.45

Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one

Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div!
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:21 PM)
Can buy :
Coca Cola (KO) $63
McDonald (MCD) $75.80
AAPL 359.40
Pepsi-Cola (PEP) $63.33
Krispy Donut $7.17
Starbucks $33.05
KFC (YUM) 49.45

Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one

Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div!
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Tech stock is more cyclical in nature, good for some period, then perform bad for some period.

As tech gadget is constantly changing, today top seller model/product, may not be the top product next year.

Unlike McD is the top seller of fast food, we know 95% it will be top seller for the next 3-5 or even 10 years down the road, with the SAME product.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:21 PM)

Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one

Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div!
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I have to agree with you just look at these example.
If you are on the wrong timing... you can have big big problem
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With my most optimistic valuation,it is traded at one year ahead my current valuation.
If you intends to buy it now, you're expecting apple will come out another new product that is as amazing as iphone 3gs / 4.
there is too much expectation in this stock,once the expectation unable to be met,I will not surprise the share price drop 10%-15%.
probably if you have insider information knowing what product they will release , haha then go for it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 11 2011, 12:06 PM)
With my most optimistic valuation,it is traded at one year ahead my current valuation.
If you intends to buy it now, you're expecting apple will come out another new product that is as amazing as iphone 3gs / 4.
there is too much expectation in this stock,once the expectation unable to be met,I will not surprise the share price drop 10%-15%.
probably if you have insider information knowing what product they will release , haha then go for it biggrin.gif
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Well, a lot of people place their blind faith on apple in the last ten years and they had been rewarded handsomely.
Although past results should never be used as a reference but you know, it can still tempt a lot of people.
I would not even be surprised that iPad and iPhone still hold their incredible market share a year from now, however unlikely that may be. I am immune to apple surprises already, been surprised far too many times. laugh.gif Their profit guidance is designed to surprise the market.

iPhone 5 anyone? tongue.gif

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I would rather invest in google rather than apple especially since Jobs is no longer the acting CEO. Unlike Apple which depends largely on it's gadgets (iPad, iPod, iPhone), Google has a more diversified business portfolio which is moving away from online advertisements.

But that's just my 2 cents.
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OMG, so typical M'sian way of asking for personal stuff.  biggrin.gif


Just wanna compare with FD... FD in 25 years (avg. 4% p.a.) you could double your money at least (not a good return but it's safe) smile.gif


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QUOTE(ingky @ Feb 11 2011, 01:09 PM)
I would rather invest in google rather than apple especially since Jobs is no longer the acting CEO. Unlike Apple which depends largely on it's gadgets (iPad, iPod, iPhone), Google has a more diversified business portfolio which is moving away from online advertisements.

But that's just my 2 cents.
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That's what I am thinking too.I still haven't calculate google intrinsic value.
If steve jobs unable to play main role (CEO)in apple...probably it will become another nokia..probably..
however for google...i think it doesn't matter who is the CEO...the business itself is an advertisement king in this world.
so think twice before invest in apple
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 11 2011, 01:31 PM)
Just wanna compare with FD... FD in 25 years (avg. 4% p.a.) you could double your money at least (not a good return but it's safe) smile.gif
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find a way to obtain an australian tax file number (TFN) and place your money there.

lock it in term deposits for 6 months and obtain 6.41%

lucrative and risk-free.
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That's what I am thinking too.I still haven't calculate google intrinsic value.
If steve jobs unable to play main role (CEO)in apple...probably it will become another nokia..probably..
however for google...i think it doesn't matter who is the CEO...the business itself is an advertisement king in this world.
so think twice before invest in apple
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Actually, Apple stock is not as expensive as most people think it is. The reason that people think so is that it has move up a lot in the past few years. It is cheaper than google on PE terms. Most people do not value the cash on Apple balance sheet. Net off cash, the thing is selling at around 17x net cash TTM, not seriously expensive. Yup, it is dependent on coming up with new products, which probably make it a risky stock compare to your bread and butter Colgate Palmolive (18x TTM) etc. But, it is trading a a cheaper valuation than Google (19x net cash TTM)with a better historical growth trajectory. The key for Apple is that, whether the recently converted Apple cult will stay loyal to their product. If they manage to do so, they have retain a good loyal base with good cross selling opportunity. Apple will remain a seller of high margin niche product.

For Google, they are starting to face pressure of becoming a giant like Microsoft. They start to receive antitrust probe and criticism. The "Do No Evil" feel good factor is diminishing. Make no mistake, I think Google has done more to improve the internet than any other company. I think most of us have use at least two of their products- search, youtube, google reader, google docs, android and etc. All great stuff.They have a dominant position in search and with internet advertising still an under utilize platform, they will do well. But, still Google is still a one product wonder. Their financials has just one division-Search, meaning, other revenue stream is not meaningful and relevant. It is all about search advertising.

Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return).

I do not own any of that two (GOOG and AAPL), just my 2 cents. But, lol, I do own their common competitor- the lumbering, slow and some says dying and IBM-like giant-Microsoft.

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Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return).


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Agree with your assessment for NFLX and OPEN. Crazy valuation..
But, there are tons of people chasing NFLX now esp. hedge funds.
There are rumors that NFLX may go international and partner with a foreign partner in the local country.
If this is true, their business could expand pretty big.

As for AAPL, this fruit is money maker. If in future, S.Jobs no longer at the helm, rumor has it he's creating
an army of mini Jobs-like in Apple to allow the company continue to thrive and innovate like him.


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Agree with your assessment for NFLX and OPEN. Crazy valuation..
But, there are tons of people chasing NFLX now esp. hedge funds.
There are rumors that NFLX may go international and partner with a foreign partner in the local country.
If this is true, their business could expand pretty big.

As for AAPL, this fruit is money maker. If in future, S.Jobs no longer at the helm, rumor has it he's creating
an army of mini Jobs-like in Apple to allow the company continue to thrive and innovate like him.
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Yup. They are talks about international expansion by the CEO. I think you have probably read this, it is an interesting exchange between a fund manager who short netflix and a very courteous reply by the CEO.

Fund manager short thesis: http://seekingalpha.com/article/242320-whi...e-short-netflix

CEO reply (includes some talk about expansion) : http://seekingalpha.com/article/242653-net...rt-position-now

It is a good exchange between the two. Hope more CEO will follow netflix CEO suit. Don't just scold investor that short their company. Counter them with facts rather than personal attack. But, I think the CEO never touch on the valuation issue, which is main contention by the fund manager.

Sorry for off topic, will keep discussion back to Apple after this. Just feel that it is a very nice thesis to share.
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tis is for discussion purpose & about forward pe. pay ferrari, get ferrari, pay kap chai, get kap chai cool2.gif http://quote.morningstar.com/stock/s.aspx?t=msft

$27.40 msft 9.9
$356.20 aapl 13.9
$617.39 goog 15.5
$226.10 nflx 36.7
$94.2 open 82.1

msft need to grow revenue or it continues to lumber, definitely not part of my watchlist nod.gif but y choose it?
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aapl, breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback drool.gif
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goog, tidur sideways, not part of my watchlist as they attempt shakeout gamblers, if breakout, then can consider yawn.gif
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nflx, another breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback drool.gif
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open, another breakout to new high, since not yet triple digit & the no. of momo low, very high chance can achieve $$$ thumbup.gif
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all the fa r public known info, which 1 to choose? I need to use ta/ chart for clearer picture. if to choose either 1 from the 5 choices above.
I take open laugh.gif wat about the rest of u?

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QUOTE(the snowball @ Feb 11 2011, 10:38 PM)
Actually, Apple stock is not as expensive as most people think it is. The reason that people think so is that it has move up a lot in the past few years. It is cheaper than google on PE terms. Most people do not value the cash on Apple balance sheet. Net off cash, the thing is selling at around 17x net cash TTM, not seriously expensive. Yup, it is dependent on coming up with new products, which probably make it a risky stock compare to your bread and butter Colgate Palmolive (18x TTM) etc. But, it is trading a a cheaper valuation than Google (19x net cash TTM)with a better historical growth trajectory. The key for Apple is that, whether the recently converted Apple cult will stay loyal to their product. If they manage to do so, they have retain a good loyal base with good cross selling opportunity. Apple will remain a seller of high margin niche product.

For Google, they are starting to face pressure of becoming a giant like Microsoft. They start to receive antitrust probe and criticism. The "Do No Evil" feel good factor is diminishing. Make no mistake, I think Google has done more to improve the internet than any other company. I think most of us have use at least two of their products- search, youtube, google reader, google docs, android and etc. All great stuff.They have a dominant position in search and with internet advertising still an under utilize platform, they will do well. But, still Google is still a one product wonder. Their financials has just one division-Search, meaning, other revenue stream is not meaningful and relevant. It is all about search advertising.

Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return).

I do not own any of that two (GOOG and AAPL), just my 2 cents. But, lol, I do own their common competitor- the lumbering, slow and some says dying and IBM-like giant-Microsoft.
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I didn't say it is very expansive..in fact it is trading around between its par to 2 years ahead intrinsic value.since there are many stocks trading at 80%-200% above its intrinsic value.
but the nature of business for apple posses greater downward risk..
for google, probably the intrinsic value of google grows slower than apple and it is more expansive now..but I can guarantee it's downward risk is much more safer than apple.but I won't buy google now too..I just prefer its business nature than apple.
What I am trying to talking here is, you're expecting Apple will come out a great new product in certain way if you're invest in CURRENT price.
Unless you're like some forumer here, invest in apple few years ago,it shouldn't be a concern to you.
I bet everyone would like to own Apple here,but for the current price with some premium paid for it based on valuation, but posses 10-20% of downward risk, so judge yourself are you willing to accept the risk.

For facebook, that is certainly a joke to ask for USD50b judging from its revenue without even looking its net profit...

I do not own those big giant technology, but the company I invest is small to medium type software company with some stable and good return of equity that grows intrinsic value 10%-20% yearly.

So wish the investor here good luck if buy apple at CURRENT price.
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LOL, please come to a sense of realism.

How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing.

Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT//




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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM)
LOL, please come to a sense of realism.

How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing.

Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT//
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who said nothing?come on,everyone has their own opinion.
Just because you 're so active and like to talk about share, it is just your way of making money.
My way of making money is carefully choose a business/stock (even make some argument)and invest in huge sum.
What I am talking about above are totally related to value of the stock and some of the long term effect.
yes, I know many of trader/charter here say we value investor only like to talk theory, talk and talk only.
you're trader, what I am talking here is totally irrelevant to many of you.
It is just like all those graph and TA are totally irrelevant to me too.

PS:I am not here to argue which way to invest here is better, It is just we are in different world of investing. so for TA guys here, you can skip all those comment that are not related to you.
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM)
LOL, please come to a sense of realism.

How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing.

Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT//
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Kinda agree with you.

People like to talk about their rich neighbors and relatives.

But not motivated enough to ( search and buy ) and becoming one of them.

So much talking ( without actions ) would not make them rich.

I do not think other parts of the world would be totally diff from our Bolehland on this, better opportunities perhaps.

Time to look for the next Apple in town.

Have you ( the forumers ) heard of Acres of Diamonds , BTW. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM)
LOL, please come to a sense of realism.

How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing.

Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT//
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Haha. I don't really think there is any argument here let alone a heated one. It is a pretty decent discussion.

I think most of us actually take a look at these companies and decide not to buy it. Not buying, in itself is a decision, you don't need to look at a company and buy it all the time. Just like we look at and research a lot of companies, but the one we are buying is perhaps 1-2% of the population that we look at.
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 12 2011, 08:49 PM)
who said nothing?come on,everyone has their own opinion.
Just because you 're so active and like to talk about share, it is just your way of making money.
My way of making money is carefully choose a business/stock (even make some argument)and invest in huge sum.
What I am talking about above are totally related to value of the stock and some of the long term effect.
yes, I know many of trader/charter here say we value investor only like to talk theory, talk and talk only.
you're trader, what I am talking here is totally irrelevant to many of you.
It is just like all those graph and TA are totally irrelevant to me too.

PS:I am not here to argue which way to invest here is better, It is just we are in different world of investing. so for TA guys here, you can skip all those comment that are not related to you.
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Dude, you don't get it. Yes, everyone have an opinion, but what are u doing about it? Trash talking - yes, every one can do. Same like sex, one may boast this and that, but when come to perform, LOL, don't come even near. Got it?

You talk about APPLE if you wanna buy, either LONG or SHORT. Else, why waste your precious time and energy talking about and around it? Pretty useless.

Best of it - go dig info on next "big" thing.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 13 2011, 05:36 PM)
Dude, you don't get it. Yes, everyone have an opinion, but what are u doing about it? Trash talking - yes, every one can do. Same like sex, one may boast this and that, but when come to perform, LOL, don't come even near. Got it?

You talk about APPLE if you wanna buy, either LONG or SHORT. Else, why waste your precious time and energy talking about and around it? Pretty useless.

Best of it - go dig info on next "big" thing.
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It is same like those graph and TA analysis are trash to me.
how you know I didn't dig another big thing?
I talk about apple it doesn't mean I have to buy or sell, I can wait then buy.
So save your time to monitor your market instead of thinking you think you know what I am doing.

Anyway, Sorry if my post reply sound offensive.probably I really talking trash my view point of the business and my valuation.
mod, please delete all those unrelated stuff to this topic.
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 13 2011, 06:34 PM)
It is same like those graph and TA analysis are trash to me.
how you know I didn't dig another big thing?
I talk about apple it doesn't mean I have to buy or sell, I can wait then buy.
So save your time to monitor your market instead of thinking you think you know what I am doing.

Anyway, Sorry if my post reply sound offensive.probably I really talking trash my view point of the business and my valuation.
mod, please delete all those unrelated stuff to this topic.
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Sorry, I'm not TA Lover. Graphs are for historic price, it moved depending on that day news and market condition.
Why should I spend time thinking of what U KNOW WHAT U'RE DOING? Are u Gaga eh?

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Every day another $1 for AAPL! rclxms.gif

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In 2010, Apple's only real competition was the 7-inch Samsung Galaxy Tab. But with a slew of Honeycomb-powered iPad competitors out this year including the Xoom, Galaxy Tab 10.1, LG G-Slate, and Dell Streak 10, as well as Research In Motion's Blackberry Playbook and the WebOS-powered TouchPad, Apple appears to be feeling the competitive heat. - Nokia is sux!

BUT

Apple launches iPad2
Apple shares rose 2% in midday trading on the launch of iPad2.


Apple's new iPad 2, starts from USD499 available in black or white, features
- an Apple-branded 1GHz A5 dual-core processor,
- 9.7-inch screen with 1024-by-768 resolution,
- front- and rear-facing cameras,
- up to 1080p video out support via HDMI,
- 10 hours of battery life,
- accelerometer and three-axis gyroscope,
- and separate GSM and CDMA 3G connectivity options.

With the HDMI out, Apple's move to make the iPad the must-have tool for business people, teachers, and anyone else who spends a lot of time giving presentations. The company also has two new pages dedicated to explaining why the iPad 2 is an ideal gadget for business and education professionals.

And expect rumor that iPhone 5 will also be rocking this Apple-branded 1GHz A5 dual-core processor.

Market research firm IHS iSuppli on Wednesday said tablets are a major reason that demand for hard disk drives (HDD), the most common form of storage in PC devices, is dropping.
HDD demand will drop 3.9 percent in the first three months of 2011, according to IHS iSuppli predictions. The research firm also believes netbooks are particularly vulnerable to being decimated by the demand for tablet devices. - hmm.gif
Possible JCY as sunset industry? but that's another thread

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iPAD2: Awesome product!

AAPL is going to sell 20 mln of this - no issue.

Strong BUY! biggrin.gif

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apple going strong, but the share price when gonna drop. need to buy,.
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apple going strong, but the share price when gonna drop. need to buy,.
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It won't until happens until it happens... just watch the Chart.
Right now, I'm riding it.

The IPAD2 launch was excellent. Jobs appeared and this give a boost to the stock.
After the release of iPAD2 yesterday, Opperheimer says they will take 75-80% of the tablet market in 2012.


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I was busy buying wink.gif earnings season r here again, oil is > $106 & the outlook is rclxub.gif
open blast thru $100 no sweat, after tidur for 1 month. see below for then & now prices brows.gif
for call options guideline, every $1 up, ur 1 contract earns $100, as time decay monthly, if stock no move, knock off $50 drool.gif

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$27.40 msft $25.48
$356.20 aapl $344.56
$617.39 goog $591.80
$226.10 nflx $242.09
$94.2 open $106.22

With stocks breaking out and the indexes rising, it's useful to review what the recent decline and developing rebound have accomplished. A correction can be constructive, allowing new bases to form and rotating the leadership.

The market correction — 7% or 8% depending on the index — appears to have shuffled the leadership. At the Feb. 18 peak, the Philadelphia semiconductor index was up 14% for the year while the broad indexes were up by about half that amount.

As of Friday's close, the Philadelphia semiconductor index was up only 5% for the year — roughly in line with the major indexes. The new leaders are the midcap S&P 400 and the small-cap S&P 600, up 10% and 8% respectively for the year.

Sector leadership also has shifted. On Feb. 18, the top two sectors were chips and electronics. Now the top two are energy and real estate.

Industry groups are another way to gauge leadership. The chief change was the demotion of chipmakers and chip designers from the top 20.

Yet the biggest change in the market in recent weeks is the rise in breakouts. About a dozen and a half stocks broke out last week — the most in any week for at least two months.

The tenor of those breakouts has changed as well. In February and early March, about a dozen breakouts fizzled as they triggered the 8% sell rule. They included restaurant chain Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG), apparel retailer Deckers Outdoor (DECK) and mining financier Silver Wheaton (SLW) .

But later in March, breakouts began to work. None has failed outright, though one showed bad action Friday. Oilfield services and equipment company RPC (RES) plunged as much as 15% Friday before recovering. It closed down 6%. Volume was triple its usual pace.

On Friday, four top-rated stocks joined the breakout parade: farm equipment maker Deere (DE), apparel maker Under Armour (UA), mining equipment maker Joy Global (JOYG) and Stericycle (SRCL), a medical waste handler. Volume was 40% or greater for all but Stericycle, which stepped up trade 34%.

But other stocks communicated a conflicted message. Chipotle broke out early, but then volume faded as it fell back into the cup base. Robotics surgery company Intuitive Surgical (ISRG) cleared a nearly yearlong cup-with-handle base, but volume was only 20% above average. Intuitive retreated and closed under the 346.89 buy point.

Borg Warner (BWA) closed just below an 81.17 buy point in below-average trade

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tis is for discussion purpose & about forward pe. pay ferrari, get ferrari, pay kap chai, get kap chai  http://quote.morningstar.com/stock/s.aspx?t=msft

$27.40 msft 9.9
$356.20 aapl 13.9
$617.39 goog 15.5
$226.10 nflx 36.7
$94.2 open 82.1

msft need to grow revenue or it continues to lumber, definitely not part of my watchlist  nod.gif  but y choose it?
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aapl, breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback 
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goog, tidur sideways, not part of my watchlist as they attempt shakeout gamblers, if breakout, then can consider 
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nflx, another breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback  drool.gif
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open, another breakout to new high, since not yet triple digit & the no. of momo low, very high chance can achieve $$$  thumbup.gif 
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all the fa r public known info, which 1 to choose? I need to use ta/ chart for clearer picture. if to choose either 1 from the 5 choices above.
I take open  laugh.gif wat about the rest of u?
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post Apr 2 2011, 09:46 PM

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for those who interested in US stock investment using online broker, pls refer to my blog.
http://mystockinvest.blogspot.com/2011/03/...e-us-stock.html
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post Apr 7 2011, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(danielong1982 @ Apr 2 2011, 09:46 PM)
for those who interested in US stock investment using online broker, pls refer to my blog.
http://mystockinvest.blogspot.com/2011/03/...e-us-stock.html
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thanks for the links smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 11:02 PM

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TD ? Hmm..

AAPL going downhill. WTF, really.
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post Apr 8 2011, 12:13 AM

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Nice, Apple now got its own thread here.
Oh well, for past week, AAPL been really sick - just like S.Jobs.

All sales indication at Apple stores are really strong.. no iPad2, iPhone5 delay non-issue, upgrades, etc..
but price action is horrible.

Is this a setup for big rally? If so, big buying opportunity. drool.gif

Got to watch that support line at 336 (s1), 326 (s2). nod.gif

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post Aug 25 2011, 07:57 AM

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AAPL will take a hit. Just dunno how severe?
"I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know," Mr. Jobs said in his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, that day has come."
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 25 2011, 07:57 AM)
It definitely will drop a bit. Change in leadership change in investor confidence
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post Aug 25 2011, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(devilnevercry @ Aug 25 2011, 08:18 AM)
It definitely will drop a bit. Change in leadership change in investor confidence
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In to short Apel. Hope to see $300-315 soon.
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DARN IT! Really a bad surprise here. mad.gif

No choice but going to have to dig deeper and BUY if this dives below $350 here. smile.gif


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 25 2011, 11:11 AM)
DARN IT! Really a bad surprise here.  mad.gif

No choice but going to have to dig deeper and BUY if this dives below $350 here.  smile.gif
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Hi guys, rather than buying apple mother stock, are you all aware of any listed companies in Malaysia or Singapore which are suppliers/distributors of Apple. Pls advise notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Mikken @ Aug 26 2011, 10:28 AM)
Hi guys, rather than buying apple mother stock, are you all aware of any listed companies in Malaysia or Singapore which are suppliers/distributors of Apple. Pls advise  notworthy.gif
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No, perhaps not Malaysia, but AAPL outsourced their assembly to FoxConn/HonHai based in Taiwan.
FoxConn is a publicly traded company in Taiwan Stock Exchange..

At NYSE, a lot of other people trades OVTI, CRUS, and others because AAPL uses their chips.

Today, Steve Jobs resignation is non-event. biggrin.gif

Instead of tanking, it was immediately bought back from the open at 365.. gained $8 to closing $373.
That's even much higher than what I bought 3 days ago when it was down to the 356 level.

Nevertheless, I had to let go some of my AAPL calls before Bernanke speaks tonight.

Keeping some cash for weekend. Could be rolling into puts if bearishness continues here.

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post Aug 26 2011, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(devilnevercry @ Aug 25 2011, 08:18 AM)
It definitely will drop a bit. Change in leadership change in investor confidence
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there not many in the US like Steve Jobs, (visionary, critical, etc) when Apple was down it was Steve who steer it back, with slew of new consumer products that world craving for. He's the guru who knows what the market wants, those days it was apple, Macs, now it's ipad, iphone, etc.

when apple wants a new CEO, steve hire Sculley (the pepsi guy), but sculley could not deliver what Steve wanted, Sculley fired Steve and down Apple goes. 10 yrs later when Apple buy Next (steve new co) and Steve was back into Apple and how he revive back Apple with the current products.

So he's ailing now, hair almost gone, and the familiar smile also gone, and he's no longer in the driver seat, i bet Apple can never find a guru like him anymore.
Even Bill gates of microsoft is aging, so it's the new blood shud take the driver seat... somebody of the Facebook's Mark or Google's criteria to lead co like Apple into the future with new consumer products.

America can produce at any particular time only a handful of smart people, can't produce that many.

History has it that the earlier part technology entrepeneurs came from East coast, then 2000 onwards it was Silicon Valley from the west coast/California.

so next wave will be from????? dunno....

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I personally feel comfortable trading in technology stocks. They're more safer than other (it may also depend on my taste, but that's what it is). For Apple, the excellent thing was, though Steve Job resigned it is still the safer stock to buy. 49 / 51 experts preferred to 'buy' and/or 'hold' apple shares.
Moreover, this is something for apple here on this link:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/apple...of-competitors/
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172.
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post Jan 11 2022, 04:28 AM

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QUOTE(junclj @ Jan 10 2022, 08:50 AM)
I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172.
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Don’t forget every split is always waiting the next split to add in more rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(junclj @ Jan 10 2022, 08:50 AM)
I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172.
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post Jan 24 2022, 11:46 AM

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now price keep dropping.. can either wait for it to go lowest or start buying some now. For sure will make in the future (the most a few years time after this crisis).
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 11:46 AM)
now price keep dropping.. can either wait for it to go lowest or start buying some now. For sure will make in the future (the most a few years time after this crisis).
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go lowest - can share your own definition of lowest? I don't think anyone can predict when is the lowest. My own take is drop to 20% then take a look again at the overall US market not just a specific stock share only.
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QUOTE(sgh @ Jan 24 2022, 12:03 PM)
go lowest - can share your own definition of lowest? I don't think anyone can predict when is the lowest. My own take is drop to 20% then take a look again at the overall US market not just a specific stock share only.
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lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum.
I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 01:04 PM)
lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum.
I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet.
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so which stock is the one that you dare to buy now given the Fed would still be looking to increase interest rates.
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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Yes can buy, use Moomoo app, singapore regulated
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Jan 24 2022, 02:13 PM)
so which stock is the one that you dare to buy now given the Fed would still be looking to increase interest rates.
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stopped buying as of now.. but if you want you can buy nobody stopping you biggrin.gif
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Apple results: https://investor.apple.com/investor-relations/default.aspx
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM)
hello guys,

wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.

cash for investment : 10K
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search rakuten malaysia, u can buy apple stock in malaysia
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-supply-...share_permalink
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/appl...ing-streak-2003

How many have bought AAPL and hold onto it since 2003? smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2022, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 01:04 PM)
lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum.
I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet.
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In fact you will regret now not buying with the recent dip doh.gif

QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 29 2022, 06:33 PM)
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/appl...ing-streak-2003

How many have bought AAPL and hold onto it since 2003? smile.gif
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I know many who really bought at the bottom of the bottom and the share cost less than a Big Mac at that time and some of them are billionaire just holding Apple shares rclxms.gif

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post Mar 30 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 30 2022, 03:37 AM)
In fact you will regret now not buying with the recent dip  doh.gif
I know many who really bought at the bottom of the bottom and the share cost less than a Big Mac at that time and some of them are billionaire just holding Apple shares rclxms.gif
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I have quite a number of Apple shares already (based on size of my portfolio).

Just bought Google yesterday. biggrin.gif

Later will add Tesla and Amazon after their stock split. No budget to buy so many at their high prices.

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Apple pe 30 only
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post Mar 30 2022, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(MicroInvest @ Mar 30 2022, 02:51 PM)
Apple pe 30 only
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In fact 28.5 atm

Anything less than 35 for Apple a lot mom and pop will be buying rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 30 2022, 05:23 PM)
In fact 28.5 atm

Anything less than 35 for Apple a lot mom and pop will be buying  rclxms.gif
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have you bought already?
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post Apr 1 2022, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Mar 31 2022, 09:55 AM)
have you bought already?
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Bought a long time ago doh.gif

In fact added more during the recent dip 158.80 so no waiting to cash out a bit at 188 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Apr 1 2022, 02:46 AM)
Bought a long time ago  doh.gif

In fact added more during the recent dip 158.80 so no waiting to cash out a bit at 188  rclxms.gif
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Will easily go past 200 soon.

Those analysts that look down on Apple don’t realise how much monopoly they hold over their iPhone alone 😄
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 4 2022, 11:17 PM)
Will easily go past 200 soon.

Those analysts that look down on Apple don’t realise how much monopoly they hold over their iPhone alone 😄
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Hardly will go up to 200 this year will be lucky at 198 with supply chain issues and not that great upcoming iPhone 14

Next year range will be much better can foresee at 230 by end 2923

 

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