hello guys,
wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start.
cash for investment : 10K
Invest in Apple stocks, how much $$ needed
Invest in Apple stocks, how much $$ needed
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Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM, updated 15y ago
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hello guys,
wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start. cash for investment : 10K |
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Feb 10 2011, 10:26 AM
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pls pm me, but seriously 10k is abt 3k usd, you can't buy much
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM) hello guys, i don't think 10k is enough to be honest.wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start. cash for investment : 10K not attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not be beneficial. to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee. This post has been edited by nokia2003: Feb 10 2011, 01:19 PM |
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Better try to invest in KLSE stock market first..
10k is a good start in KLSE |
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:51 AM) i don't think 10k is enough to be honest. the wise rabbit has spokennot attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not beneficial. to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee. |
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM) hello guys, The board lot in US is 1 share. So, technically, as long as u have around USD 358 which is apple current price, you can invest already. Open an account with a US based broker rather than a Malaysia one as the Malaysian-based charges will probably kill you. Google for discount brokers in US. Some transaction fees can be a low as 2-3USD. Interactive brokers can go as low as USD 1 but your capital is not sufficient to open an Interactive brokers account. Transferring money to and from US will set you back at another RM200-300. But, if you are there in the long term, this shouldn't be a problem. Only use cash that you can afford to invest, if the 10k is the cash that you can afford, meaning you have other money set aside, this should not be a problem as you don't need to withdraw and bank in money that often.wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start. cash for investment : 10K You can also gain exposure by buying options, which is much cheaper than buying the shares itself. For longer term, I think Apple should have LEAPS, so can buy that also. But, if you are inexperienced, start with plain vanilla equity first. BTW, this is an opinion on how to buy shares, not the shares itself. Buy at your own risks and do the due diligence. This post has been edited by the snowball: Feb 10 2011, 12:34 PM |
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Why Apple?
Why not others? And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No? |
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QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 10 2011, 12:33 PM) Why Apple? at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy.Why not others? And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No? |
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AAPL is the best share I've ever invested since 1986!
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:51 AM) i don't think 10k is enough to be honest. thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first.not attempting to belittle you, but once you factor in, the fixed/variable brokerage fees et cetera, it might not be beneficial. to make things worse, even remitting the money from the states over to your malaysian bank account will incur a fee. QUOTE(the snowball @ Feb 10 2011, 12:30 PM) The board lot in US is 1 share. So, technically, as long as u have around USD 358 which is apple current price, you can invest already. Open an account with a US based broker rather than a Malaysia one as the Malaysian-based charges will probably kill you. Google for discount brokers in US. Some transaction fees can be a low as 2-3USD. Interactive brokers can go as low as USD 1 but your capital is not sufficient to open an Interactive brokers account. Transferring money to and from US will set you back at another RM200-300. But, if you are there in the long term, this shouldn't be a problem. Only use cash that you can afford to invest, if the 10k is the cash that you can afford, meaning you have other money set aside, this should not be a problem as you don't need to withdraw and bank in money that often. thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again.You can also gain exposure by buying options, which is much cheaper than buying the shares itself. For longer term, I think Apple should have LEAPS, so can buy that also. But, if you are inexperienced, start with plain vanilla equity first. BTW, this is an opinion on how to buy shares, not the shares itself. Buy at your own risks and do the due diligence. hmm so around 8-9 lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested. yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade. may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further. QUOTE(edyek @ Feb 10 2011, 12:33 PM) Why Apple? invest in local market is good but depends on which company.Why not others? And really, RM 10k is peanuts if you investing overseas stock market. Invest in local stock market will bring better result. No? apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good. QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:21 PM) at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy. definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000. |
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 01:21 PM) at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy. QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 01:22 PM) QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 02:24 PM) thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first. Ah, I see. Too bad I'm know nuts about stock.thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again. hmm so around 8-9 lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested. yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade. may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further. invest in local market is good but depends on which company. apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good. definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000. |
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM) hello guys, 1 unit is 358.16USD aka RM1074.xx which means you can buy about 8 unit max after commission, assuming the wire rate is 2.95 per 1USD.wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start. cash for investment : 10K |
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 02:21 PM) at the current trend Apple is performing (profit after profit and rapid gain of market share), it is actually a good buy. QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 03:24 PM) thanks for the suggestion and reply, ill have it ponder first. what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? thanks for heads up, this really make me thinking over and over again. hmm so around 8-9 lotshares i guess for the 10k the money i invested. yes, 10k basically a money that i've put aside, im thinking either ways to put it up on gold investment, or this stocks trade. may i know what is vanilla equity? i know it's a very sounds noob question but ill make my homework first before proceeding any steps further. invest in local market is good but depends on which company. apple is predicted to have a market share around 1000USD by 2015 if this current apple momentum profit by profit is going on years by years, so i think , investing earlier sounds good. definitely, i wont be buying when their stocks going for $1000. |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 02:35 PM) what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? the most recent GFC is a good predictor of apple IMHO. it outperformed itself and its competitors and can definitely be classified as a 'recession proof' company. |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 02:35 PM) what is the solid reason apple will gain til USD1000? look at the momentum now, yeah good buy but when I look again, its already peak cycle. Which the question, what other fundamentals run tat support the next 650 % gain? |
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wat goes up, mus cum down, its a cycle & I wanna short aapl once its trend changes
look at its Short % Increase 50.44% http://shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=aapl&submit=Short+Quote%99 |
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why not try apple-c4?
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:47 PM) you do not need to be a finance guru to figure why apple is a good buy. not heading for bubble? the most recent GFC is a good predictor of apple IMHO. it outperformed itself and its competitors and can definitely be classified as a 'recession proof' company. i prefer google over this. as its more solid recession proff & you sure need it to find job. QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Feb 10 2011, 03:55 PM) wat goes up, mus cum down, its a cycle & I wanna short aapl once its trend changes look at its Short % Increase 50.44% http://shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=aapl&submit=Short+Quote%99 agree with, wat goes up must come down. |
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 04:03 PM) for apple, it need market to get it level well, like apples product, apple apps. new stuff every 6 to 12 months.. while google, basically. its alrdy the search engine you need. Marketing, etc.. you dont need it but it make you like need it. Its like buying tulips..do you need them? This post has been edited by KVReninem: Feb 10 2011, 03:24 PM |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 10 2011, 03:18 PM) for apple, it need market to get it level well, like apples product, apple apps. new stuff every 6 to 12 months.. i would say, it depends on your type of return preferences; whether it is dividend or capital gain (or both)while google, basically. its alrdy the search engine you need. Marketing, etc.. you dont need it but it make you like need it. Its like buying tulips..do you need them? the way i look at it, apple has a lot of room to increase in share prices as opposed to google (IMHO of course) |
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Why should prioritize on shares rather on physical gold? could get more than 50gram of gold bar.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:03 PM) Apples price is about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.This kind of gadget, you need constant innovation to drive sales. If there is no new Iphone 5 in the next 2-3 years in the pipeline, we may see people not that enthusiasm about buying Iphone already. You need constant on top to maintain the sales. Unlike, old fashioned business like palm pil, everyday you produce palm oil only. |
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Apples price is NOT just about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad.
Before these there were Mac, iMac, MacAir and others. Apples price is about Steve Job & innovation. His ability to produce and something that consumer dun realised they need it! http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/forums/view...d/79946/#539393 |
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what if Steve job is no longer there?this is also one of the risks....
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WHY AAPL?
For tech stocks, there are much better out there. ATML, CRUS, MU, ARMH, and somehow related to AAPL. For brokers : visit here -http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1476526 I trade US Stocks daily. Wire cost you USD25/- and another RM15-25 from here. 10,000, u will get : Selling TT USD @ 3.1160 10,000-25 = 9975/3.1160 = $3201.22 - $25 (US Broker Bank fee) $3,176.21 Broker Fee @ 2.95$ per trade AAPL today $358.16 You can get maximum 8 shares with total cost $2,868.23. To get return, you need to ensure that AAPL traded $359.00 The balance buy CRUS at $24.08 Balance : $3,176.21 - $2,868.23 = $307.98 x 10 CRUS PORTFOLIO : AAPL $2,868.23 @ 8 shares CRUS $243.75 @ 10 shares Balance : $64.23 |
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zamans.. thanks you for step by step guide, QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 05:23 PM) WHY AAPL? For tech stocks, there are much better out there. ATML, CRUS, MU, ARMH, and somehow related to AAPL. For brokers : visit here -http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1476526 I trade US Stocks daily. Wire cost you USD25/- and another RM15-25 from here. 10,000, u will get : Selling TT USD @ 3.1160 10,000-25 = 9975/3.1160 = $3201.22 - $25 (US Broker Bank fee) $3,176.21 Broker Fee @ 2.95$ per trade AAPL today $358.16 You can get maximum 8 shares with total cost $2,868.23. To get return, you need to ensure that AAPL traded $359.00 The balance buy CRUS at $24.08 Balance : $3,176.21 - $2,868.23 = $307.98 x 10 CRUS PORTFOLIO : AAPL $2,868.23 @ 8 shares CRUS $243.75 @ 10 shares Balance : $64.23 |
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QUOTE(masterjedi @ Feb 10 2011, 05:28 PM) About $75. For me AAPL make much more money for me than MCD. PS there are the only 2 NYSE share I'm familiar with. This post has been edited by DarkNite: Feb 10 2011, 05:42 PM |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 05:38 PM) About $75. For me AAPL make much more money for me than MCD. thanks for the tips. if you're not hesitate, how much shares that you bought for AAPL and do you think 8 slots is sufficient for time being? PS there are the only 2 NYSE share I'm familiar with. im a type of investors looking for short term investment high/moderate ROI |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 01:22 PM) Amazing holding power. QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2011, 09:01 PM) Go to google finance here : http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL, drag the chart and you will know roughly how much he made, my guess is at least 10000% but should be more than that.This post has been edited by the snowball: Feb 10 2011, 09:54 PM |
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 08:17 PM) thanks for the tips. if you're not hesitate, how much shares that you bought for AAPL and do you think 8 slots is sufficient for time being? .. QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 10 2011, 09:01 PM) OMG, so typical M'sian way of asking for personal stuff. Anyway, a lot of money hiding in AAPL especially institutions. Buy'ing calls ahead of product announcement or potential sales have been very rewarding. The risk is like Cherroy had mentioned: constant innovation to drive sales. Competitions are coming esp. from GOOG and others.. but AAPL still a few steps ahead of the game. and..S.Jobs better not die before iPhone5 is out. |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 10 2011, 05:07 PM) Apples price is NOT just about Iphone, Ipod, Ipad. No doubt about it, but still as a tech company, you constantly need to innovate, outclass your rival, make some product people want to have it, want to change it.Before these there were Mac, iMac, MacAir and others. Apples price is about Steve Job & innovation. His ability to produce and something that consumer dun realised they need it! http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/forums/view...d/79946/#539393 Without it, sales could drop in the long term future, unlike McD, or Coca-Cola, even without any special invention, your sales will stay pretty constant throughout, just need advertisement to boost it in between. Apples share price surge lately few years, is not because of Mac, but Iphone, Ipod, Ipad. Back then without those 3, Apples share is not like what is today. Frankly speaking, Apples produce some product, that people want it, not actually need it. Most people use Iphone for what? Voice call, surfing the net. --- Other smart phone also have the feature, but Apples produce something people want it. It is like produce a branded stuff that make people want to buy it, instead of need it. People need flash, but Iphone and Ipad don't support flash. People need USB 3.0 interface, but Apples product don't have it (or yet) Above just my opinion, I could be wrong. Just post what I known. |
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is AAPL leads the stock market rather than Google now ?
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Can buy :
Coca Cola (KO) $63 McDonald (MCD) $75.80 AAPL 359.40 Pepsi-Cola (PEP) $63.33 Krispy Donut $7.17 Starbucks $33.05 KFC (YUM) 49.45 Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div! |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:21 PM) Can buy : Tech stock is more cyclical in nature, good for some period, then perform bad for some period.Coca Cola (KO) $63 McDonald (MCD) $75.80 AAPL 359.40 Pepsi-Cola (PEP) $63.33 Krispy Donut $7.17 Starbucks $33.05 KFC (YUM) 49.45 Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div! As tech gadget is constantly changing, today top seller model/product, may not be the top product next year. Unlike McD is the top seller of fast food, we know 95% it will be top seller for the next 3-5 or even 10 years down the road, with the SAME product. |
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 10 2011, 11:21 PM) Tech stocks can go up or down very fast, aka VOLATILE - not good for people with sakit jantung one Stocks like YUM or McD - is very stable. Good div! If you are on the wrong timing... you can have big big problem No matter what stock you invest... AAPL GOOG MSFT IBM EMC |
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True, AAPL is not for small fries, unless you bought it in 2001
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With my most optimistic valuation,it is traded at one year ahead my current valuation.
If you intends to buy it now, you're expecting apple will come out another new product that is as amazing as iphone 3gs / 4. there is too much expectation in this stock,once the expectation unable to be met,I will not surprise the share price drop 10%-15%. probably if you have insider information knowing what product they will release , haha then go for it |
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 11 2011, 12:06 PM) With my most optimistic valuation,it is traded at one year ahead my current valuation. Well, a lot of people place their blind faith on apple in the last ten years and they had been rewarded handsomely.If you intends to buy it now, you're expecting apple will come out another new product that is as amazing as iphone 3gs / 4. there is too much expectation in this stock,once the expectation unable to be met,I will not surprise the share price drop 10%-15%. probably if you have insider information knowing what product they will release , haha then go for it Although past results should never be used as a reference but you know, it can still tempt a lot of people. I would not even be surprised that iPad and iPhone still hold their incredible market share a year from now, however unlikely that may be. I am immune to apple surprises already, been surprised far too many times. iPhone 5 anyone? |
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I would rather invest in google rather than apple especially since Jobs is no longer the acting CEO. Unlike Apple which depends largely on it's gadgets (iPad, iPod, iPhone), Google has a more diversified business portfolio which is moving away from online advertisements.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 10 2011, 10:04 PM) OMG, so typical M'sian way of asking for personal stuff. Just wanna compare with FD... FD in 25 years (avg. 4% p.a.) you could double your money at least (not a good return but it's safe) |
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QUOTE(ingky @ Feb 11 2011, 01:09 PM) I would rather invest in google rather than apple especially since Jobs is no longer the acting CEO. Unlike Apple which depends largely on it's gadgets (iPad, iPod, iPhone), Google has a more diversified business portfolio which is moving away from online advertisements. That's what I am thinking too.I still haven't calculate google intrinsic value.But that's just my 2 cents. If steve jobs unable to play main role (CEO)in apple...probably it will become another nokia..probably.. however for google...i think it doesn't matter who is the CEO...the business itself is an advertisement king in this world. so think twice before invest in apple |
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 11 2011, 01:31 PM) Just wanna compare with FD... FD in 25 years (avg. 4% p.a.) you could double your money at least (not a good return but it's safe) find a way to obtain an australian tax file number (TFN) and place your money there.lock it in term deposits for 6 months and obtain 6.41% lucrative and risk-free. |
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Feb 11 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 11 2011, 05:35 PM) That's what I am thinking too.I still haven't calculate google intrinsic value. Actually, Apple stock is not as expensive as most people think it is. The reason that people think so is that it has move up a lot in the past few years. It is cheaper than google on PE terms. Most people do not value the cash on Apple balance sheet. Net off cash, the thing is selling at around 17x net cash TTM, not seriously expensive. Yup, it is dependent on coming up with new products, which probably make it a risky stock compare to your bread and butter Colgate Palmolive (18x TTM) etc. But, it is trading a a cheaper valuation than Google (19x net cash TTM)with a better historical growth trajectory. The key for Apple is that, whether the recently converted Apple cult will stay loyal to their product. If they manage to do so, they have retain a good loyal base with good cross selling opportunity. Apple will remain a seller of high margin niche product. If steve jobs unable to play main role (CEO)in apple...probably it will become another nokia..probably.. however for google...i think it doesn't matter who is the CEO...the business itself is an advertisement king in this world. so think twice before invest in apple For Google, they are starting to face pressure of becoming a giant like Microsoft. They start to receive antitrust probe and criticism. The "Do No Evil" feel good factor is diminishing. Make no mistake, I think Google has done more to improve the internet than any other company. I think most of us have use at least two of their products- search, youtube, google reader, google docs, android and etc. All great stuff.They have a dominant position in search and with internet advertising still an under utilize platform, they will do well. But, still Google is still a one product wonder. Their financials has just one division-Search, meaning, other revenue stream is not meaningful and relevant. It is all about search advertising. Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return). I do not own any of that two (GOOG and AAPL), just my 2 cents. But, lol, I do own their common competitor- the lumbering, slow and some says dying and IBM-like giant-Microsoft. This post has been edited by the snowball: Feb 11 2011, 10:40 PM |
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Feb 11 2011, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(the snowball @ Feb 11 2011, 10:38 PM) Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return). Agree with your assessment for NFLX and OPEN. Crazy valuation..But, there are tons of people chasing NFLX now esp. hedge funds. There are rumors that NFLX may go international and partner with a foreign partner in the local country. If this is true, their business could expand pretty big. As for AAPL, this fruit is money maker. If in future, S.Jobs no longer at the helm, rumor has it he's creating an army of mini Jobs-like in Apple to allow the company continue to thrive and innovate like him. |
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Feb 11 2011, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Feb 11 2011, 10:58 PM) Agree with your assessment for NFLX and OPEN. Crazy valuation.. Yup. They are talks about international expansion by the CEO. I think you have probably read this, it is an interesting exchange between a fund manager who short netflix and a very courteous reply by the CEO.But, there are tons of people chasing NFLX now esp. hedge funds. There are rumors that NFLX may go international and partner with a foreign partner in the local country. If this is true, their business could expand pretty big. As for AAPL, this fruit is money maker. If in future, S.Jobs no longer at the helm, rumor has it he's creating an army of mini Jobs-like in Apple to allow the company continue to thrive and innovate like him. Fund manager short thesis: http://seekingalpha.com/article/242320-whi...e-short-netflix CEO reply (includes some talk about expansion) : http://seekingalpha.com/article/242653-net...rt-position-now It is a good exchange between the two. Hope more CEO will follow netflix CEO suit. Don't just scold investor that short their company. Counter them with facts rather than personal attack. But, I think the CEO never touch on the valuation issue, which is main contention by the fund manager. Sorry for off topic, will keep discussion back to Apple after this. Just feel that it is a very nice thesis to share. |
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Feb 12 2011, 12:23 AM
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tis is for discussion purpose & about forward pe. pay ferrari, get ferrari, pay kap chai, get kap chai
$27.40 msft 9.9 $356.20 aapl 13.9 $617.39 goog 15.5 $226.10 nflx 36.7 $94.2 open 82.1 msft need to grow revenue or it continues to lumber, definitely not part of my watchlist aapl, breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback goog, tidur sideways, not part of my watchlist as they attempt shakeout gamblers, if breakout, then can consider nflx, another breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback open, another breakout to new high, since not yet triple digit & the no. of momo low, very high chance can achieve $$$ all the fa r public known info, which 1 to choose? I need to use ta/ chart for clearer picture. if to choose either 1 from the 5 choices above. I take open |
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Feb 12 2011, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(the snowball @ Feb 11 2011, 10:38 PM) Actually, Apple stock is not as expensive as most people think it is. The reason that people think so is that it has move up a lot in the past few years. It is cheaper than google on PE terms. Most people do not value the cash on Apple balance sheet. Net off cash, the thing is selling at around 17x net cash TTM, not seriously expensive. Yup, it is dependent on coming up with new products, which probably make it a risky stock compare to your bread and butter Colgate Palmolive (18x TTM) etc. But, it is trading a a cheaper valuation than Google (19x net cash TTM)with a better historical growth trajectory. The key for Apple is that, whether the recently converted Apple cult will stay loyal to their product. If they manage to do so, they have retain a good loyal base with good cross selling opportunity. Apple will remain a seller of high margin niche product. I didn't say it is very expansive..in fact it is trading around between its par to 2 years ahead intrinsic value.since there are many stocks trading at 80%-200% above its intrinsic value.For Google, they are starting to face pressure of becoming a giant like Microsoft. They start to receive antitrust probe and criticism. The "Do No Evil" feel good factor is diminishing. Make no mistake, I think Google has done more to improve the internet than any other company. I think most of us have use at least two of their products- search, youtube, google reader, google docs, android and etc. All great stuff.They have a dominant position in search and with internet advertising still an under utilize platform, they will do well. But, still Google is still a one product wonder. Their financials has just one division-Search, meaning, other revenue stream is not meaningful and relevant. It is all about search advertising. Google is slightly more expensive than Apple. Both are not that expensive if you take into account the reportedly crazy Facebook valuation of USD50b. Facebook is not as expensive as other tech out there - Netflix (77x TTM) and Open Table ( a stunning 105x TTM and 60+ Forward PE, I don't know what growth they are imputing, this thing is crazily overvalued. If it growth as expected, you will only get a decent return). I do not own any of that two (GOOG and AAPL), just my 2 cents. But, lol, I do own their common competitor- the lumbering, slow and some says dying and IBM-like giant-Microsoft. but the nature of business for apple posses greater downward risk.. for google, probably the intrinsic value of google grows slower than apple and it is more expansive now..but I can guarantee it's downward risk is much more safer than apple.but I won't buy google now too..I just prefer its business nature than apple. What I am trying to talking here is, you're expecting Apple will come out a great new product in certain way if you're invest in CURRENT price. Unless you're like some forumer here, invest in apple few years ago,it shouldn't be a concern to you. I bet everyone would like to own Apple here,but for the current price with some premium paid for it based on valuation, but posses 10-20% of downward risk, so judge yourself are you willing to accept the risk. For facebook, that is certainly a joke to ask for USD50b judging from its revenue without even looking its net profit... I do not own those big giant technology, but the company I invest is small to medium type software company with some stable and good return of equity that grows intrinsic value 10%-20% yearly. So wish the investor here good luck if buy apple at CURRENT price. |
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Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM
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LOL, please come to a sense of realism.
How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing. Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT// |
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Feb 12 2011, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM) LOL, please come to a sense of realism. who said nothing?come on,everyone has their own opinion.How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing. Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT// Just because you 're so active and like to talk about share, it is just your way of making money. My way of making money is carefully choose a business/stock (even make some argument)and invest in huge sum. What I am talking about above are totally related to value of the stock and some of the long term effect. yes, I know many of trader/charter here say we value investor only like to talk theory, talk and talk only. you're trader, what I am talking here is totally irrelevant to many of you. It is just like all those graph and TA are totally irrelevant to me too. PS:I am not here to argue which way to invest here is better, It is just we are in different world of investing. so for TA guys here, you can skip all those comment that are not related to you. TQ |
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Feb 13 2011, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM) LOL, please come to a sense of realism. Kinda agree with you.How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing. Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT// People like to talk about their rich neighbors and relatives. But not motivated enough to ( search and buy ) and becoming one of them. So much talking ( without actions ) would not make them rich. I do not think other parts of the world would be totally diff from our Bolehland on this, better opportunities perhaps. Time to look for the next Apple in town. Have you ( the forumers ) heard of Acres of Diamonds , BTW. This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Feb 13 2011, 10:32 AM |
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Feb 13 2011, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:42 PM) LOL, please come to a sense of realism. Haha. I don't really think there is any argument here let alone a heated one. It is a pretty decent discussion.How many of you actually holding any GOOGLE or APPLE stocks? Just talk talk, heated arguments, but at the end of the day, nothing. Just go and buy any TECH stock which have some promise. //END OF ARGUMENT// I think most of us actually take a look at these companies and decide not to buy it. Not buying, in itself is a decision, you don't need to look at a company and buy it all the time. Just like we look at and research a lot of companies, but the one we are buying is perhaps 1-2% of the population that we look at. |
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Feb 13 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 12 2011, 08:49 PM) who said nothing?come on,everyone has their own opinion. Dude, you don't get it. Yes, everyone have an opinion, but what are u doing about it? Trash talking - yes, every one can do. Same like sex, one may boast this and that, but when come to perform, LOL, don't come even near. Got it?Just because you 're so active and like to talk about share, it is just your way of making money. My way of making money is carefully choose a business/stock (even make some argument)and invest in huge sum. What I am talking about above are totally related to value of the stock and some of the long term effect. yes, I know many of trader/charter here say we value investor only like to talk theory, talk and talk only. you're trader, what I am talking here is totally irrelevant to many of you. It is just like all those graph and TA are totally irrelevant to me too. PS:I am not here to argue which way to invest here is better, It is just we are in different world of investing. so for TA guys here, you can skip all those comment that are not related to you. TQ You talk about APPLE if you wanna buy, either LONG or SHORT. Else, why waste your precious time and energy talking about and around it? Pretty useless. Best of it - go dig info on next "big" thing. This post has been edited by zamans98: Feb 13 2011, 05:36 PM |
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Feb 13 2011, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Feb 13 2011, 05:36 PM) Dude, you don't get it. Yes, everyone have an opinion, but what are u doing about it? Trash talking - yes, every one can do. Same like sex, one may boast this and that, but when come to perform, LOL, don't come even near. Got it? It is same like those graph and TA analysis are trash to me.You talk about APPLE if you wanna buy, either LONG or SHORT. Else, why waste your precious time and energy talking about and around it? Pretty useless. Best of it - go dig info on next "big" thing. how you know I didn't dig another big thing? I talk about apple it doesn't mean I have to buy or sell, I can wait then buy. So save your time to monitor your market instead of thinking you think you know what I am doing. Anyway, Sorry if my post reply sound offensive.probably I really talking trash my view point of the business and my valuation. mod, please delete all those unrelated stuff to this topic. thanks This post has been edited by foofoosasa: Feb 13 2011, 07:01 PM |
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Feb 14 2011, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Feb 13 2011, 06:34 PM) It is same like those graph and TA analysis are trash to me. Sorry, I'm not TA Lover. Graphs are for historic price, it moved depending on that day news and market condition.how you know I didn't dig another big thing? I talk about apple it doesn't mean I have to buy or sell, I can wait then buy. So save your time to monitor your market instead of thinking you think you know what I am doing. Anyway, Sorry if my post reply sound offensive.probably I really talking trash my view point of the business and my valuation. mod, please delete all those unrelated stuff to this topic. thanks Why should I spend time thinking of what U KNOW WHAT U'RE DOING? Are u Gaga eh? No offense taken. |
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Feb 15 2011, 01:38 PM
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aapl bright future!
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Feb 16 2011, 11:26 PM
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Every day another $1 for AAPL!
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Mar 3 2011, 08:28 AM
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In 2010, Apple's only real competition was the 7-inch Samsung Galaxy Tab. But with a slew of Honeycomb-powered iPad competitors out this year including the Xoom, Galaxy Tab 10.1, LG G-Slate, and Dell Streak 10, as well as Research In Motion's Blackberry Playbook and the WebOS-powered TouchPad, Apple appears to be feeling the competitive heat. - Nokia is sux!
BUT Apple launches iPad2 Apple shares rose 2% in midday trading on the launch of iPad2. Apple's new iPad 2, starts from USD499 available in black or white, features - an Apple-branded 1GHz A5 dual-core processor, - 9.7-inch screen with 1024-by-768 resolution, - front- and rear-facing cameras, - up to 1080p video out support via HDMI, - 10 hours of battery life, - accelerometer and three-axis gyroscope, - and separate GSM and CDMA 3G connectivity options. With the HDMI out, Apple's move to make the iPad the must-have tool for business people, teachers, and anyone else who spends a lot of time giving presentations. The company also has two new pages dedicated to explaining why the iPad 2 is an ideal gadget for business and education professionals. And expect rumor that iPhone 5 will also be rocking this Apple-branded 1GHz A5 dual-core processor. Market research firm IHS iSuppli on Wednesday said tablets are a major reason that demand for hard disk drives (HDD), the most common form of storage in PC devices, is dropping. HDD demand will drop 3.9 percent in the first three months of 2011, according to IHS iSuppli predictions. The research firm also believes netbooks are particularly vulnerable to being decimated by the demand for tablet devices. - Possible JCY as sunset industry? but that's another thread This post has been edited by DarkNite: Mar 3 2011, 09:01 AM |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:01 AM
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iPAD2: Awesome product!
AAPL is going to sell 20 mln of this - no issue. Strong BUY! |
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Mar 3 2011, 02:42 PM
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apple going strong, but the share price when gonna drop. need to buy,.
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Mar 3 2011, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Mar 3 2011, 02:42 PM) It won't until happens until it happens... just watch the Chart.Right now, I'm riding it. The IPAD2 launch was excellent. Jobs appeared and this give a boost to the stock. After the release of iPAD2 yesterday, Opperheimer says they will take 75-80% of the tablet market in 2012. |
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Apr 2 2011, 03:33 PM
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I was busy buying open blast thru $100 no sweat, after tidur for 1 month. see below for then & now prices for call options guideline, every $1 up, ur 1 contract earns $100, as time decay monthly, if stock no move, knock off $50 $27.40 msft $25.48 $356.20 aapl $344.56 $617.39 goog $591.80 $226.10 nflx $242.09 $94.2 open $106.22 With stocks breaking out and the indexes rising, it's useful to review what the recent decline and developing rebound have accomplished. A correction can be constructive, allowing new bases to form and rotating the leadership. The market correction — 7% or 8% depending on the index — appears to have shuffled the leadership. At the Feb. 18 peak, the Philadelphia semiconductor index was up 14% for the year while the broad indexes were up by about half that amount. As of Friday's close, the Philadelphia semiconductor index was up only 5% for the year — roughly in line with the major indexes. The new leaders are the midcap S&P 400 and the small-cap S&P 600, up 10% and 8% respectively for the year. Sector leadership also has shifted. On Feb. 18, the top two sectors were chips and electronics. Now the top two are energy and real estate. Industry groups are another way to gauge leadership. The chief change was the demotion of chipmakers and chip designers from the top 20. Yet the biggest change in the market in recent weeks is the rise in breakouts. About a dozen and a half stocks broke out last week — the most in any week for at least two months. The tenor of those breakouts has changed as well. In February and early March, about a dozen breakouts fizzled as they triggered the 8% sell rule. They included restaurant chain Chipotle Mexican Grill (CMG), apparel retailer Deckers Outdoor (DECK) and mining financier Silver Wheaton (SLW) . But later in March, breakouts began to work. None has failed outright, though one showed bad action Friday. Oilfield services and equipment company RPC (RES) plunged as much as 15% Friday before recovering. It closed down 6%. Volume was triple its usual pace. On Friday, four top-rated stocks joined the breakout parade: farm equipment maker Deere (DE), apparel maker Under Armour (UA), mining equipment maker Joy Global (JOYG) and Stericycle (SRCL), a medical waste handler. Volume was 40% or greater for all but Stericycle, which stepped up trade 34%. But other stocks communicated a conflicted message. Chipotle broke out early, but then volume faded as it fell back into the cup base. Robotics surgery company Intuitive Surgical (ISRG) cleared a nearly yearlong cup-with-handle base, but volume was only 20% above average. Intuitive retreated and closed under the 346.89 buy point. Borg Warner (BWA) closed just below an 81.17 buy point in below-average trade QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Feb 12 2011, 12:23 AM) tis is for discussion purpose & about forward pe. pay ferrari, get ferrari, pay kap chai, get kap chai http://quote.morningstar.com/stock/s.aspx?t=msft $27.40 msft 9.9 $356.20 aapl 13.9 $617.39 goog 15.5 $226.10 nflx 36.7 $94.2 open 82.1 msft need to grow revenue or it continues to lumber, definitely not part of my watchlist aapl, breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback goog, tidur sideways, not part of my watchlist as they attempt shakeout gamblers, if breakout, then can consider nflx, another breakout to new high, under normal circumstances, will enter, but after indices does a pullback open, another breakout to new high, since not yet triple digit & the no. of momo low, very high chance can achieve $$$ all the fa r public known info, which 1 to choose? I need to use ta/ chart for clearer picture. if to choose either 1 from the 5 choices above. I take open » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Apr 2 2011, 09:46 PM
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for those who interested in US stock investment using online broker, pls refer to my blog.
http://mystockinvest.blogspot.com/2011/03/...e-us-stock.html |
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Apr 7 2011, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(danielong1982 @ Apr 2 2011, 09:46 PM) for those who interested in US stock investment using online broker, pls refer to my blog. thanks for the links http://mystockinvest.blogspot.com/2011/03/...e-us-stock.html |
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Apr 7 2011, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(danielong1982 @ Apr 2 2011, 09:46 PM) for those who interested in US stock investment using online broker, pls refer to my blog. TD ? Hmm..http://mystockinvest.blogspot.com/2011/03/...e-us-stock.html AAPL going downhill. WTF, really. |
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Apr 8 2011, 12:13 AM
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Nice, Apple now got its own thread here.
Oh well, for past week, AAPL been really sick - just like S.Jobs. All sales indication at Apple stores are really strong.. no iPad2, iPhone5 delay non-issue, upgrades, etc.. but price action is horrible. Is this a setup for big rally? If so, big buying opportunity. Got to watch that support line at 336 (s1), 326 (s2). This post has been edited by danmooncake: Apr 8 2011, 12:13 AM |
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Aug 25 2011, 07:57 AM
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Aug 25 2011, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 25 2011, 07:57 AM) AAPL will take a hit. Just dunno how severe? It definitely will drop a bit. Change in leadership change in investor confidence"I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple's CEO, I would be the first to let you know," Mr. Jobs said in his resignation letter. "Unfortunately, that day has come." |
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Aug 25 2011, 09:49 AM
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Aug 25 2011, 10:11 AM
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DARN IT! Really a bad surprise here.
No choice but going to have to dig deeper and BUY if this dives below $350 here. |
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Aug 26 2011, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 25 2011, 11:11 AM) DARN IT! Really a bad surprise here. Hi guys, rather than buying apple mother stock, are you all aware of any listed companies in Malaysia or Singapore which are suppliers/distributors of Apple. Pls advise No choice but going to have to dig deeper and BUY if this dives below $350 here. |
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Aug 26 2011, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(Mikken @ Aug 26 2011, 10:28 AM) Hi guys, rather than buying apple mother stock, are you all aware of any listed companies in Malaysia or Singapore which are suppliers/distributors of Apple. Pls advise No, perhaps not Malaysia, but AAPL outsourced their assembly to FoxConn/HonHai based in Taiwan. FoxConn is a publicly traded company in Taiwan Stock Exchange.. At NYSE, a lot of other people trades OVTI, CRUS, and others because AAPL uses their chips. Today, Steve Jobs resignation is non-event. Instead of tanking, it was immediately bought back from the open at 365.. gained $8 to closing $373. That's even much higher than what I bought 3 days ago when it was down to the 356 level. Nevertheless, I had to let go some of my AAPL calls before Bernanke speaks tonight. Keeping some cash for weekend. Could be rolling into puts if bearishness continues here. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Aug 26 2011, 12:18 PM |
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QUOTE(devilnevercry @ Aug 25 2011, 08:18 AM) there not many in the US like Steve Jobs, (visionary, critical, etc) when Apple was down it was Steve who steer it back, with slew of new consumer products that world craving for. He's the guru who knows what the market wants, those days it was apple, Macs, now it's ipad, iphone, etc.when apple wants a new CEO, steve hire Sculley (the pepsi guy), but sculley could not deliver what Steve wanted, Sculley fired Steve and down Apple goes. 10 yrs later when Apple buy Next (steve new co) and Steve was back into Apple and how he revive back Apple with the current products. So he's ailing now, hair almost gone, and the familiar smile also gone, and he's no longer in the driver seat, i bet Apple can never find a guru like him anymore. Even Bill gates of microsoft is aging, so it's the new blood shud take the driver seat... somebody of the Facebook's Mark or Google's criteria to lead co like Apple into the future with new consumer products. America can produce at any particular time only a handful of smart people, can't produce that many. History has it that the earlier part technology entrepeneurs came from East coast, then 2000 onwards it was Silicon Valley from the west coast/California. so next wave will be from????? dunno.... This post has been edited by nasni: Aug 26 2011, 07:23 PM |
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Sep 3 2011, 11:04 PM
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I personally feel comfortable trading in technology stocks. They're more safer than other (it may also depend on my taste, but that's what it is). For Apple, the excellent thing was, though Steve Job resigned it is still the safer stock to buy. 49 / 51 experts preferred to 'buy' and/or 'hold' apple shares.
Moreover, this is something for apple here on this link: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/apple...of-competitors/ |
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Feb 10 2011, 10:21 AM) hello guys, I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172.wanted to know, how can i invest in Apple Inc stocks, im looking for buying small stocks only and how much cash do i need to have for me to start. cash for investment : 10K |
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Jan 11 2022, 04:28 AM
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QUOTE(junclj @ Jan 10 2022, 08:50 AM) I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172. Don’t forget every split is always waiting the next split to add in more |
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Jan 11 2022, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(junclj @ Jan 10 2022, 08:50 AM) I think this post was 11 years ago, RM10,000 for long term is good enough for the start. Especially many people just look for short-term hot money only. They never think of long term investment. Many people says that the 8th wonder of the world is compounding interest. If you keep top-up 2-3 units of Nasdaq:AAPL every month. Just treat it as your savings. Don't care about what other people judging. Just trust in yourself. Now the apple stock already split to 4 then rise until US$172. Apple investor since 2016 . Bought at all time high after the it split at $100 which translate to only $25 after last year's split . |
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Jan 24 2022, 11:46 AM
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now price keep dropping.. can either wait for it to go lowest or start buying some now. For sure will make in the future (the most a few years time after this crisis).
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Jan 24 2022, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 11:46 AM) now price keep dropping.. can either wait for it to go lowest or start buying some now. For sure will make in the future (the most a few years time after this crisis). go lowest - can share your own definition of lowest? I don't think anyone can predict when is the lowest. My own take is drop to 20% then take a look again at the overall US market not just a specific stock share only. |
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Jan 24 2022, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(sgh @ Jan 24 2022, 12:03 PM) go lowest - can share your own definition of lowest? I don't think anyone can predict when is the lowest. My own take is drop to 20% then take a look again at the overall US market not just a specific stock share only. lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum. I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet. |
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Jan 24 2022, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 01:04 PM) lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum. so which stock is the one that you dare to buy now given the Fed would still be looking to increase interest rates.I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet. TOS liked this post
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Jan 24 2022, 02:16 PM
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Jan 24 2022, 02:28 PM
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Jan 28 2022, 12:47 PM
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Apple results: https://investor.apple.com/investor-relations/default.aspx
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Jan 28 2022, 12:50 PM
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Jan 29 2022, 04:11 PM
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Mar 29 2022, 06:33 PM
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/appl...ing-streak-2003
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Mar 30 2022, 03:37 AM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 24 2022, 01:04 PM) lowest is when the price start to go up a bit for a few days imo.. that's when bull is starting to gain momentum. In fact you will regret now not buying with the recent dip I won't dare to buy more Apple stocks now.. Fed still want to increase interest rates (they mentioned earlier up to 8 times in 2-3 years time). They are not stopping yet. QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 29 2022, 06:33 PM) https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/appl...ing-streak-2003 I know many who really bought at the bottom of the bottom and the share cost less than a Big Mac at that time and some of them are billionaire just holding Apple shares How many have bought AAPL and hold onto it since 2003? |
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Mar 30 2022, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 30 2022, 03:37 AM) In fact you will regret now not buying with the recent dip I have quite a number of Apple shares already (based on size of my portfolio). I know many who really bought at the bottom of the bottom and the share cost less than a Big Mac at that time and some of them are billionaire just holding Apple shares Just bought Google yesterday. Later will add Tesla and Amazon after their stock split. No budget to buy so many at their high prices. This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Mar 30 2022, 10:36 AM |
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Mar 30 2022, 02:51 PM
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Apple pe 30 only
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Mar 30 2022, 05:23 PM
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Mar 31 2022, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 30 2022, 05:23 PM) have you bought already? TOS liked this post
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Apr 1 2022, 02:46 AM
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Apr 4 2022, 11:17 PM
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Apr 5 2022, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Apr 4 2022, 11:17 PM) Will easily go past 200 soon. Hardly will go up to 200 this year will be lucky at 198 with supply chain issues and not that great upcoming iPhone 14Those analysts that look down on Apple don’t realise how much monopoly they hold over their iPhone alone 😄 Next year range will be much better can foresee at 230 by end 2923 |
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