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post Feb 3 2011, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 2 2011, 01:50 PM)
it's not really that simple...

the issue now, as far as end users are concerned, is if the OEMs would recall the laptops, and if not, wat re they going to do if the mobo spoilts after the warranty...
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Excatly. Unless maybe for example Acer give 3 years warranty and the mobo spoilts in 2 year than can get a replacement maybe. tongue.gif
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post Feb 3 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 3 2011, 10:43 AM)
not so simple again... Dell only offered 1 more year of warranty to cover GeForce 8M on top of the original warranty (ie if u ve 1yr warranty for the laptop, ur GPU is covered for 2yrs in total), and nothing after that... to date there are still quite a number of ppl who re still using the original XPS and Inspiron with GeForce 8400M GS, and they are already over the extended warranty...

seldom u see OEMs like BenQ who is willing to cover the GPU indefinitely...

an as far as i can remember, Acer and Asus kept mum during the GeForce 8M issue...

so depending on the OEMs, the outcome may be different too...
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Yeah it depends on the OEM to. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 3 2011, 09:39 PM

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Why din they found this problem earlier? cry.gif Why now? cry.gif It has been a very long wait though. vmad.gif mad.gif Might just by the 1st gen processor. doh.gif
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post Feb 5 2011, 10:02 PM

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From Asus website : http://event.asus.com/2011/SandyBridge/notice/

For motherboards, we’ve confirmed with Intel® that the Cougar Point design error does not affect SATA ports 0 and 1. Additionally, ASUS has been a pioneer in including extra SATA 3Gb/s and SATA 6Gb/s ports beyond Intel® specifications on a wide range of motherboards. These ports are not affected by this design error, offering customers an option for uninterrupted computing. However, we’re also offering you the option of returning any possibly affected motherboard for a swap or sales return. All warranties for affected motherboards will be reset to give you enough time to carry out any exchanges.

Does not affect ports 0 and 1? So, does this mean the hardisk port is not affected? hmm.gif
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post Feb 5 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 5 2011, 10:03 PM)
depends on which port u plug into...

SATA ports ARE HDD ports...
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I know that. But by default, in which SATA port does Asus plug in the HDD? and the Optical Drive?

Is it they plug in SATA port 0 to HDD and SATA port 1 to Optical Drive?
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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 5 2011, 10:12 PM)
depends on how the laptop is configed...

usually it's Port 0 for HDD, Port 1 for optical and others for e-SATA...

for dual HDD both Port 0 and Port 1 would be HDD... and the rest for optical and e-SATA...

btw, i thought u were asking abt desktops... the satements u quoted is for desktop mobos...
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I was referring to laptop. Is it the statement is for desktop motherboard only?

Anyway, I already ordered my laptop 2 weeks ago that is Asus N53SN. The shop that i ordered at told me that i can get around next week. The shop is Asus authorized dealer. What should i do? Cancel the order or just use the laptop first?

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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 5 2011, 10:42 PM)
depends on if u re in an urgent or not... i guess if i were u i would juz use and then service it when possible...
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I did thought about that. But then what I'm worried is, they are only changing the Mobo not the whole laptop. So, I'm scared they won't fix the new mobo as they were fix during manufacturing. When I send to their Highpoint, technicians that are going to change the mobo.
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QUOTE(astria @ Feb 5 2011, 10:53 PM)
dun be the first to send in? laugh.gif

wait till June/July then service it?
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QUOTE(toobad @ Feb 7 2011, 08:46 PM)
I believe this applies in US and some other countries only ( at the moment ).

I've called up technical and sales support of the companies above. NONE knows a damn thing about the faulty chipset.
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As predicted. Well, that's how thing works here. I guess even if they know, they will pretend not to know. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Feb 7 2011, 11:49 PM)
It's normal practice. While Intel acknowledge the problem, OEMs won't be too happy with the decision. They simply can't wait until a fix is issued and need to clear their inventory as well as trying to achieve sales to boost their earnings and balance sheet. Intel is winning either way. Not all are affected and in the end, the amount needed for the Cleanup will be less than the estimated 700 millions, as OEMs keep flogging out the affected chipset.
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Added on February 8, 2011, 12:03 am
QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 7 2011, 11:56 PM)
Sometime, i really wonder why such a critical flaw is not being detected and being fixed before it is being shipped to the customer. hmm.gif
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Yea. Well when you think about it, if they had tested it earlier, and found the problem earlier, they would have save a lot more money and time. It would have also been easier for them. Easier in the sense they could have just settle the problem at their end rather than customer had already gotten the faulty chipset and now have to wait for replacement and i think it's more time consuming and frustrating. hmm.gif

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post Feb 8 2011, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Feb 8 2011, 06:15 AM)
So will Acer sells their Sandy Bridge lappys with discounts now?
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No. Not a chance. Why should they give discount? It's not even their fault. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 8, 2011, 10:19 am
QUOTE(ThisIsBoletaria @ Feb 8 2011, 08:57 AM)
Okay, we already know that only the 3 Gbps SATA ports are affected and not the two 6 Gbps ones.  Here's my question:  Does this mean that the internal HDD and dvd drive on notebooks are safe?  I'm guessing that they'll be using the 6 Gbps ports, but I might be wrong.
Also, I heard that the new chipset (ZM series or something like that) to replace these faulty ones are supposed to have better handling of the built-in Intel HD whatever-it-is graphics.  What kind of problems are the current chipsets having?
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Any link to that? icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 13 2011, 02:56 PM

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No new update on the problem?
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post Feb 16 2011, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Feb 15 2011, 11:40 PM)
Well, its already like that for the long time...
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Do you think the i3/i5 SB laptop will be cheaper than current i3/i5 laptop? If Asus is coming out with new i3/i5 SB laptops by end of this months, i want to wait for it. drool.gif
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Feb 24 2011, 08:01 PM)
is N43JF equipped with it ? lol
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No. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Feb 27 2011, 12:31 AM)
hey guys i just checked C-Zone pricelist. The N53SN price it says RM3499. The Asus brochure is RM 3599. Which wan more accurate???
I think we will be seeing the N53SN early next month
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Yea I saw this too. I went to Lowyat yesterday and they gave me the brochure. drool.gif RM3499 is cheap though.
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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Feb 27 2011, 04:07 PM)
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do they have stock now??? when will it arrive????
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I ask them they said all SB laptop will be arriving on the 28 of this month. This is according to them la. They said to come again next week that is early March around 2nd or 3rd. hmm.gif


Added on February 27, 2011, 4:42 pm
QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Feb 27 2011, 04:38 PM)
Found a seller in lowyat youngkeen selling rm3499 also, I pmEd him about all the latest asus new series laptop, but no response :-S
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Update us when he replies ya. blush.gif

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Feb 27 2011, 09:13 PM)
Yea HP dv6 GPU is not bad. But HP is famous with heat problems. Might want to reconsider the N53SN instead??


Added on February 27, 2011, 9:15 pmbtw does anyone know the diff between GPU that are DDR3, GDDR3 and GDDR5???
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For Graphics it's GDDR3 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 3) or GDDR5 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5).

DDR3 ( Double Data Rate 3) term is used for RAM.
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post Feb 28 2011, 05:54 PM

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No product guide for March-April from Asus?
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QUOTE(kelvin_ng @ Feb 28 2011, 06:43 PM)
Nope. U can go their website to check but currently only January-February product guide available for notebook.
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Well,it's already end of February so I guess they should give out new product guide for March-April. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin_ng @ Feb 28 2011, 07:03 PM)
Jst wait and see. Tomorrow is March ady. hehe
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