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 PADINI HOLDINGS BHD, Stock Code PADINI - 7052

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lightseeker
post Jan 28 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jan 28 2011, 09:44 AM)
SPOT ON..exactly what I am thinking biggrin.gif
their management is considered good in cost control as I noticed too...

personally, I believe their biggest competitor is top shop and a quite new competitor from australia called cotton on .

and Yes, Vincci is their main earning weapon.. i know it cause I used to go there quite often (with my ex LoL)biggrin.gif
From the cost side of the business,the cotton price will have impact on the business.
But personally ,I believe the business's intrinsic value still growing at sufficient rate in my conservative calculation.
but the I still working on it too..still doing some analysis for it's contingent liabilities, from cost side (cotton) and their growing strategy.

BTW, what do you meant by double digit return? in terms growing of company's profit?revenue? or ROE? or share price???

it is still at discount compared to my valuation, of course I hope can enter lower price, but I just use lower averaging method as I have zero knowledge to predict where the share price are going..
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Oh.. typo. Actually double digit growth in revenue for that company.

Yea. Think every individual valuation will be quite different. It is still difficult to have a guesstimate how cotton cost could impact their bottom line - profit margin wise.

Neither do I know where the share price is heading. But all i know if I purchase at a price reasonable enough and the business is good, I'll do OK. smile.gif

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post Jan 28 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(lightseeker @ Jan 28 2011, 02:40 AM)
I am still looking at Padini. In fact, I indirectly have interest in it thru ICAP.

Yes cotton price is a concern. In fact they have admittedly said they aren't usually the first mover to increase their product prices. This shows they do not have enough pricing power over their products. However, i think cotton price will stabilize when it hit the sweet balance spot in the long term. But i dunno how much. I have listen to CNBC commentary one day. Looks like the commodities guys are doing the oil dirty trick. There isn't really short of supply. Mainly are speculative. But that's for cocoa, not sure bout cotton.

ONE thing to note though, Padini biggest revenue contributor are from Vincci. And I have seen its ability to attract even the LV-fan ladies. So it is a powerful brand. Their business...just take a weekend walk to MidValley you'll see. But, premium Vincci+ dun quite make the cut.

Another thing I like about it, is how the management is working on its cost control. The move to all of them in one Padini concept store will reduce rental cost. Although I m not sure how it'll affect Vincci sales. Their move to focus on higher margin Brands Outlet might cushion the cotton pressure a little bit in short term.

Nevertheless, fashion retail industry is a tough one. Big guys could take advantage of current cotton price hike to squeeze out their competitors. Old dirty trick. Padini biggest competitors from what I could see are from the likes of Espirit, Topshop and Gap. Prices of their products are far higher. So there is still a little room for price rise. If I were Padini, I'll do it after CNY. Sales will slow down during after that anyway. That'll allow consumer to slowly settle with the new price.

Paidini did say double digit return next FY onwards will be difficult. I am taking a more conservative entry price of RM0.83 after 20% margin of error to my valuation.

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Just my sharing. What do you think?

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hmmmm mean if i wan buy ...... buy after CNY ?? just asking only, nothing much heheehe


Added on January 28, 2011, 11:43 am
QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Jan 28 2011, 10:44 AM)
SPOT ON..exactly what I am thinking biggrin.gif
their management is considered good in cost control as I noticed too...

personally, I believe their biggest competitor is top shop and a quite new competitor from australia called cotton on .

and Yes, Vincci is their main earning weapon.. i know it cause I used to go there quite often (with my ex LoL)biggrin.gif
From the cost side of the business,the cotton price will have impact on the business.
But personally ,I believe the business's intrinsic value still growing at sufficient rate in my conservative calculation.
but the I still working on it too..still doing some analysis for it's contingent liabilities, from cost side (cotton) and their growing strategy.

BTW, what do you meant by double digit return? in terms growing of company's profit?revenue? or ROE? or share price???

it is still at discount compared to my valuation, of course I hope can enter lower price, but I just use lower averaging method as I have zero knowledge to predict where the share price are going..
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yeah me too ......... sad.gif

This post has been edited by madguy88: Jan 28 2011, 11:44 AM
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post Feb 18 2011, 12:54 PM

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Any sifu here! Padini from 5rm ++ now just 1.XX ++

Any idea ! can get some? long term or short term?

Please advice.

Thanks. icon_question.gif
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post Feb 18 2011, 01:26 PM

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Hing Yiap - privatization...
will Padini be the next?? tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Feb 18 2011, 02:26 PM)
Hing Yiap - privatization...
will Padini be the next?? tongue.gif
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That why i asking lo!! tongue.gif Any idea!


Added on February 18, 2011, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(sjz @ Feb 18 2011, 02:26 PM)
Hing Yiap - privatization...
will Padini be the next?? tongue.gif
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That why i asking lo!! tongue.gif Any idea!

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post Feb 18 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 18 2011, 11:54 AM)
Any sifu here! Padini from 5rm ++ now just 1.XX ++

Any idea ! can get some? long term or short term?

Please advice.

Thanks.  icon_question.gif
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Dude this company just underwent share spilt RM0.50 to RM0.10. It does not mean the share is cheaper just means you got more share 5x more
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QUOTE(highlander124 @ Feb 18 2011, 04:20 PM)
Dude this company just underwent share spilt RM0.50 to RM0.10. It does not mean the share is cheaper just means you got more share 5x more
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Highlander : Thanks > But 1.10 is consider my $$ to invest! So i just want to know able to hold it? notworthy.gif


Added on February 18, 2011, 3:35 pm
QUOTE(highlander124 @ Feb 18 2011, 04:20 PM)
Dude this company just underwent share spilt RM0.50 to RM0.10. It does not mean the share is cheaper just means you got more share 5x more
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Highlander : Thanks > But 1.10 is consider my $$ to invest! So i just want to know able to hold it? notworthy.gif

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post Feb 18 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 18 2011, 12:54 PM)
Any sifu here! Padini from 5rm ++ now just 1.XX ++

Any idea ! can get some? long term or short term?

Please advice.

Thanks.  icon_question.gif
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Padini price converted to RM1.XX is due to Share split.

My opinion on it is more on long term investment , by the way, what is your definition of short or long term in duration sense ?
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post Feb 19 2011, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(alvincks @ Feb 18 2011, 10:20 PM)
Padini price converted to RM1.XX is due to Share split.

My opinion on it is more on long term investment , by the way, what is your definition of short or long term in duration sense ?
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Noted. I mean can i hold the share for 2 year. Then sold off! coz plan to marry use! blush.gif
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post Feb 19 2011, 03:17 PM

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Padini good to hold !! I bought at RM1.10 then sold off at RM1.30 ~~
Then collec again at RM1.10 !! smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2011, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Feb 19 2011, 04:17 PM)
Padini good to hold !! I bought at RM1.10 then sold off at RM1.30 ~~
Then collec again at RM1.10 !!  smile.gif
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im thinking to going in too and hold for long term.... XD ... should go in @ 1.05 ... damn .. now 1.12 edi ..

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QUOTE(madguy88 @ Feb 19 2011, 04:27 PM)
im thinking to going in too and hold for long term.... XD ... should go in @ 1.05 ... damn .. now 1.12 edi ..
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Ya that why i asking can it be hold for 2 year:)
i guess just declare dividen so will shootup abit ! smile.gif
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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Feb 19 2011, 03:17 PM)
Padini good to hold !! I bought at RM1.10 then sold off at RM1.30 ~~
Then collec again at RM1.10 !!  smile.gif
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Nono..You cannot buy even as low as RM1.06 ~~
They just playing the game !! You want buy is RM1.11...and the price they queve to buy is RM1.05/1.06/1.07..but all can't make it !!
Coz..I'm queving too!! tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2011, 10:10 PM

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Padini 1 to 5 share split news here: http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/incl/anndet.jsp?aid=50408

Also check out its price target news here: http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptg/7052.jsp
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QUOTE(wilhuang18 @ Feb 19 2011, 11:10 PM)
Padini 1 to 5 share split news here: http://klse.i3investor.com/jsp/incl/anndet.jsp?aid=50408

Also check out its price target news here: http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/ptg/7052.jsp
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WilHuang: look like the TP not that good! blush.gif But if buy more lot will different! tongue.gif

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post Feb 24 2011, 06:17 PM

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The market all in red, but Padini looks like quite stable...the company that strong??
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Volume not big, effect lesser..

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Feb 24 2011, 06:29 PM)
Volume not big, effect lesser..
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Right, and the price is going down, wait for a while, don't rush....
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COLLECT AT LOW PRICE !! smile.gif


Added on February 25, 2011, 4:13 pmALOT PPL THROW PADINI SHARES !! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Feb 25 2011, 03:56 PM)
COLLECT AT LOW PRICE !! smile.gif


Added on February 25, 2011, 4:13 pmALOT PPL THROW PADINI SHARES !! biggrin.gif
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but look at the TP from OSK... is 1.01!!! what the.....


Added on February 28, 2011, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Feb 25 2011, 05:22 PM)
but look at the TP from OSK... is 1.01!!! what the.....
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The latest one ... is 1.11 ++ so can all in ? lolz hmm.gif


Added on March 24, 2011, 11:02 pmSifus...
The price is super low now.. 1.01... can try to in? any idea !? market analyse?

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