ok thx, the 1st way work for some situation like small object, if big very difficult...
2nd way cant make it on big subject oso...^^
wide prime lens nt same wif kit lens ??
sry i m newbie...

Oic, understand liao, thx for the explaination, but the wide lens cnt zoom in n out thn ma oni cn do this function ?

I terasa kaw kaw lol..

Anyway, Post-processing is quite good actually but for people that are really busy, one shot one kill technique is rather better.

Summore need quite powerful hardware to PP~

35mm is not wide la on APS-C.

it's a 'normal' length focal length(same focal length as our eyes).

ok, any idea wat else the kit lens can do..??
i am having prbm using A,S mode la...duno hw to use...
whn happen this i will change to M....thn set wat i wan thn shoot...if not good i set it again...
coz if i set A thn oni A can be adjust...

lol no offense but, thinking that a 35mm(on APS-C) still doesn't make it a wide prime, although it is wider than a 50mm prime. wide primes are those below 35mm le.. 24mm,28mm or 16mm for that matter...

i scared the newbie will get confused of what is wide focal length,what is ultra wide, what is normal , what is telephoto...etc..

sorry ya no offense

For APS-C .. I think should grade on that xD:

Ultra Wide : 10mm ~15mm
Wide: 16mm~28mm
Standard: 30mm~40mm
Portrait: 50mm
Portrait(Telephoto): 85mm~135mm

@ahpingko 35mm on APS-C is not a wide angle prime, instead it should be call "Standard/Normal" lens; that have the closest focal range as our human eye :/

suddenly u share a lot wif me...thx for the sharing..i will try it wat u have said 2molo....
u shoot more big object wif near distance ?
or shoot small object wif near distance ??

can i knw hw can i save some of my setting in the cam??

got my a580+16105+BG.

In the end got 16105 rather than 1750. Cuz uncle chin say after few yrs 3rd pt coating will start to come off. He said if you have flash, 16105 and 1750 is about the same alrd.

ahpingko: Bump up the Vibrance in Lightroom. It interprets colors differently - less vibrant reds.

1 and 3 nice. 3 would be nicer if the water could reflect the mosque.

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Added on February 27, 2011, 9:15 am

I see. So its no more like the a380 eh? Good. Thats an improvement.

gearhead reporting in......
anyway i have a sony a500 + 1680, I wanna buy one lens now already, but not sure for wat...this mostly would be for portraiture , like doing nice creamy, smooth, background bluring for frens or colleagues or even pc fair or even the real portrait shoots, if i ever get to go another one....

i have tought of the few below, but not sure how good....i would like the subjects to be sharp preferbly at wide open and the bokeh/backgroudn to be smooth and uncluttered

50mm f1.8 ~ aiyo
35mm f1.8
85mm f2.8
SP 90 f2.8
70-210 f4 beercan (i think this is comparable to white knight brand 70-200 f4l??)

the above few is what is under consideration lo......

hie bro..yalo on budget, but my budget is rm1k ma so can cover all the above......

the 50mm i have heard from alot ppl they say it could be tight on apsc?? not too sure
also wondering if its wise to get a prime with recurring range that i have??

playing with tilt-shift~

Are we still taking about reflections? A few of us went to a nearby river (called Mengkabong River) to shoot some sun rise. The weather was not very cooperative, with thick clouds. And it actually drizzled lightly at one point. We thought "bye bye lah this photoshooting session"... But then, the drizzle stopped and the clouds started opening up. I managed to capture this shot of the clouds opening up, and the reflections over the Mengkabong river. Not still water though, because this is a river (with constantly flowing water) and it is a windy day. Enjoy the photo. I enjoyed shooting it.



Sony A850 + Minolta 17-35 F2.8-4. 1/125s, F14.0, 17mm, ISO200. Shot captured in cRAW and processed with Capture1 + CS4. Camera was set on a tripod and triggered using a remote release cable. Steady Shot was turned off. And no special filters used. Just a regular Hoya HD UV filter.

ahpingko: No point also converting from RAW to TIFF unless you want to make a good backup. TIFF is just a high quality JPG without the ability to retweak your WB etc.

definitely use raw 

pro
reflector = cheap, lightweight.
can reduce shadow

cons
need someone to hold for u
need available light

silver for more normal mood.

gold for more warm mood.

I don't really care about the white balance in the camera, as I shot this in cRAW. The white balance was adjusted later in Capture1. The beauty of shooting in RAW.... 
I would prefer a silver / white reflector more than a gold reflector because most of the time, the gold reflector's light is simply too warm compared to ambient.... unless you specifically want to go for that effect.

Reflector's pro: No need batteries. Easy to bring around. No need scared will break if fall down. Can see the effect of the light from the reflector immediately.

Reflector's con: Usually more bulky than flash. Doesn't work at night (usually). Depends on available light (don't even need to think about this as fill-in when shooting at sunset times). Quite difficult to maneuver - you may need a buddy / assistant to help. Reflector very often can get into the picture without you noticing it at first. Can easily be blown away by the wind!

Flash's pro: More powerful. More versatile. Have a lot of type of light modifier to be fitted on the flash for more creative lighting possibilities. Usually more easy to hide from the picture. Not dependent on sunlight or other source of light. Available at night. Smaller and easier to bring around. Easier to control the amount of light it produces.

Flash's con: Easier to create harsher shadows. Diffusing the light from the flash will eat into the flash's available power. Needs a source of power (usually batteries). Easier to malfunction than a reflector. You will feel a bit more reluctant to pinjam a flash than a reflector to a friend!

Note: all the pros and cons of each solution is from my own experience using both items. your mileage may vary....
My suggestion: Have both readily available!

don want to buy cheap umbrella?

work² work..

get one as big as you can (or willing to) carry i just use the regular 5-in-1 reflector lah. For me, that is ok at the moment. I will eventually get the massively big sized one.

Flash is a bit more tricky to use than reflector, that is for sure.

zstan: Well done! I like that it doesn't look like a thin strip of focus.

ahpingko: You need to master your wireless before you use the reflector, if you plan to use wireless flash as the highlight, and the reflector to bounce the flash as a soft main light. A plain white one works; silver ones may be too reflective.

8tvt: Can barely make it out - crop more?

Codyx: Errr I prefer YMC's because you can see the colors of the night sky. However you could then overlay a "digital GND" (Google it) to darken the tower.

empty-ball: Kesian the lizard's tail got cropped. Maybe you could go lower so you make it look taller and bigger.