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post Feb 28 2011, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Feb 28 2011, 08:53 AM)
aiya...for you own reference only la just some personal exercise...and DONT just go Copy and Publish hence declare it's yours...we'll kill you over here...LOL  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif
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okok, haha icon_idea.gif


Added on February 28, 2011, 9:06 am
QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 08:57 AM)
slow² yo play with the camera.. if suddenly enter the world of flash.. all screwed up..
u can try search the different between direct flash and bounce flash.. then decide which u prefer..

ur body can use high iso.. why not utilize it first..
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ok, i m not buying flash 1st, try ply wif cam 1st....
haha, iso high noise a lot wor...
i have a question is why whn i shoot potrait outdoors, i cnt make the whole sub in my frame while blurring the background, i saw other ppl shooting can, they can get the sub in the frame and blurring the background heavily, is they probaly change lens d ??

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post Feb 28 2011, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Feb 28 2011, 09:10 AM)
those are higher stops aperture lens...something like value from 2.8, 1.8 or 1.4 drool.gif ...kit lens i think is 3.5 something....you can do the trick too...try to separate your subject and the background even further...like 50meters...lol tongue.gif
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oic, ya i can do the trick oso , but i nid to go nearer in order to blur the background heavily but the sub will oni half body or even just head....

if move far the whole sub is in, but background not nice, not blur enuf....


Added on February 28, 2011, 9:16 am
QUOTE(kopitiam @ Feb 28 2011, 09:11 AM)
to blur the background you need either large aperture lens or long telephoto lens then zoom to the max laugh.gif


Added on February 28, 2011, 9:12 amuse the 55-200 then zoom to 200mm and see the background blur brows.gif
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zoom wif 55-200 lens, i nid to backward furthur ....the background is blur but the sub will oni half body or even just a head... sad.gif

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post Feb 28 2011, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 09:14 AM)
that's why ppl hunting for wide aperture lenses..
ie: F2.8

kit lens start with F3.5 and zoom.. become F5.6 edy.. that's why bokeh not obvious..

either u come very close to the subject or use telephoto for portraits..
infact alot of photog use tele to create better bokeh..  icon_idea.gif
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if go near to the subject, jz can shoot the half body or even head... sad.gif
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post Feb 28 2011, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(kopitiam @ Feb 28 2011, 09:16 AM)
emptyball, u got 55-200 lens right, try to use that lens to make background blur
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ya , i got the lens, but nid to move backward, and the sub will become either oni half body in the frame or jz a head...
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post Feb 28 2011, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 09:17 AM)
wah u want the whole body sharp and background blurred..
there's a price u need to pay.. haha..
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haha, okok, i tot can do wif my kit lens or 55-200, i m thinking mayb my setting wrong or wat...haha
nid to pay cnt la, some more i m newbie, better ply wif my lenses 1st...dun hav a lot of money to change lens, hav good lens but wif a suck skill...thn no point liao...n waste money....


Added on February 28, 2011, 9:21 am
QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 09:20 AM)
yes yes... otherwise PP la better  laugh.gif
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ok, wat do u mean PP ??

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post Feb 28 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 09:23 AM)
ur 55-200 is ok.. set it 55mm and get the F4..
and move backward for the whole body..
make sure the background far² away..


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post processing.. meant using software  nod.gif
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Oic, okok... Will try out soon...


Added on February 28, 2011, 9:29 amThx for a lot of guideline...

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post Feb 28 2011, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Codyx @ Feb 28 2011, 09:33 AM)
Gogo take some photo and show us your improvements..otherwise someone will mock you for spamming later...LOL
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Okok...haha...
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post Feb 28 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Feb 28 2011, 09:43 AM)
Many factors affect background blur (they call it "bokeh"). The first 2 factors you already know from other members, which is focal length & aperture. Generally speaking, the longer your focal length, the more bokeh you will be able to generate in your photo. In the case of aperture, the bigger the aperture (smaller f-number), the more bokeh you will generate. So in your case, you will generate the maximum bokeh from your current gear line-up if you use your 55-200 lens, zoomed all the way to 200mm and aperture set to f5.6. This is pretty straight forward and cannot miss. Lens set to 200mm and camera set to A-mode to fix the aperture at f5.6 and you are good to go.  rclxms.gif

The next factor is a bit more tricky and subjective to judge. This is what is called camera-to-subject distance & subject-to-background distance. Generally, the shorter the camera-to-subject distance is, the more the bokeh. and the longer the subject-to-background distance is, the more the bokeh. Take for example the photo below:

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Sony A850 & SAL85F14Z. 1/320s, F1.4, 85mm, ISO200. AWB.

My focal length is 85mm so that is in the telephoto range already. The aperture is massively big at F1.4. These are all equipment related and easy to nail. However, what you might not had noticed is that I am about 3 meters away from my subject (short camera-to-subject distance) and a good 10 to 15 meters away from the background (long subject-to-background distance). This combination gives me the bokeh that I wanted and it literally pops the subjects out from the background.

Hope this helps you.
Wow! I think I had written too much for the morning..... time for coffee break liao....  laugh.gif
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It help me bro...thx...will try it out soon...thx a lot...appreciate ur writing for so long ...haha
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post Feb 28 2011, 03:34 PM

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hey guys, my alpha 33 body can compatible wif which brand eh lens ??
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post Feb 28 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Feb 28 2011, 03:38 PM)
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all Minolta AF mount lens, all Sony Alpha mount lens, 3rd party like Sigma/Tamron/Tokina Alpha mount (some have some don't)

and of course, if with adapter also can.. smile.gif

time for new thread.. tongue.gif
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wat is mount lens ??
those nikon, canon brand eh lens we cnt use right ??
other sony lens can use ? like a380 or others.
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post Feb 28 2011, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 28 2011, 03:40 PM)
all should can.. maybe some old lenses not compatible with SLT..
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all is mean other brand like nikon canon oso can ??
hw do we knw the lens support slt or not ??


Added on February 28, 2011, 3:50 pm
QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Feb 28 2011, 03:48 PM)
don't get used to the screen
it might look good there but will look different on the computer
that's what i've found out
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agree with wat u say....big different not abit is a lot....

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post Feb 28 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(kysham @ Feb 28 2011, 03:59 PM)
canon, nikon, sony, pentax & olympus all have their own mount design. a "mount" is the connecting portion between your lens & your camera body.

so basically a lens designed for the canon mount will only fit canon's cameras and not the rest of the brands. the same goes for nikon, pentax & olympus. sony is a bit more peculiar because it originates from a company called MINOLTA. hence sony cameras will accept lenses made by sony AND minolta (as long as it is a minolta AF lens). these are what we called manufacturer's lenses (i.e. canon lens for canon body, etc.). there are companies which makes lenses for different camera brands. these are called THIRD PARTY LENS manufacturer. example companies that does this are SIGMA, TAMRON & TOKINA. they will design a lens and make it available for different cameras. for example, TAMRON had produced a 70-200mm F2.8 zoom lens and made it available in canon mount, nikon mount, sony mount & pentax mount. so if you are going to buy a tamron 70-200 f2.8 lens, make sure you tell the seller you want a SONY MOUNT TAMRON 70-200 F2.8 lens! there is no way to change the mount from nikon to sony (for example) in these lenses. they are built that way.

hope that helps clear your mind on this matter. wink.gif
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ig explanation, i clearly understand already. thx a lot.
it like small mouth with a big mouth cnt kiss lo....
sony is using A-mount right ?
asking these mayb if i got fren got these lens cn borrow and try ....haha...coz no extra money to buy more lens since i m still new....

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