cannot.. too much real life responsibilities to look after rather than chasing for first kills... Unless my dad strike $100million lottery then maybe :>

Yes agreed 100%

10 random people who can show up in raid is easy to find, but 10 long term committed players is not easy to find actually. Because to aim for first kills is not a short term project where 10 players can just come n steal first kills under paragon's nose (or all top guilds) just like that. You may have your best 10 players made up right now, but can this group of people really last til deathwing or next expansion? Other top guilds dont just have exactly 10 or 25 skilled players in their disposal. They have WAYYYYY MORE than that. They are well known, everyone wants to join that guild. They can easily find and gather good players (as long as they pass the language requirement lol) and I'm sure they can find at least 20-30 spare/backup players just like that. How many of you guys actually spend time in ptr anyway? Are you willing to spend hours on those ptr servers rather than live servers? Got so much time?

Honestly, for me if i play in ptr server or attempting a new content/boss where I wipe alot, it will be dam sien and dam demoralizing. I have ppl to layan later and they dont give a shit of my game and my stress from it. From here means you have to find someone who really really dont mind about this, got really alot patience and willing to stay up doing it again and again. (and no parents to bugg you, no friends to bug you, no gf/bf complain non stop)

And yes, they are being sponsored too. And who knows they are getting paid by cash every month too so they don't need to work anymore. Because playing wow is 'work' for them already.

Earlier I read people saying they wont sacrifice sleep or outings for the game. Normal players maybe. But for those first kills players, thats BS. If you want the first kills, YOU WOULD! Even if you wouldn't... YOU MUST!! You may not see their mains, maybe they are playing/farming on their alts. They don't get free golds, someone has got to do some farming/dailies. And I believe they would be really realllllyyy hardcore for the first couple of weeks til they down everything down-able. lol.. I just checked their facebook, they cleared 25man BOT 3 days (10dec) after cata out... I'm not sure I'm even geared enough for heroic on that very day.

Just wondering... Because I'm not sure of oceanic progression. Any of you guys actually even raid and down even 1 boss on 10dec? or nego abit.. make it 15 or 20dec.. I'm sure there should be at least 1 from our 26mil population right? right?

This post has been edited by alexision: Jan 26 2011, 01:03 AM