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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 5 2011, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 5 2011, 07:00 AM)
is that the lousy pc fair??
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This is THE pc fair nod.gif
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post Feb 5 2011, 05:34 PM

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Have you actually been to a real PC FAIR before?

It's always located in KLCC Convention Centre btw

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post Feb 5 2011, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Feb 5 2011, 09:48 PM)
anyone wanna go to the PC Fair in April with me ???

should i bring my Siggy 50mm f/1.4 & my SB600 or do i need to bring my Tokina 11-16 as well ???

16-85 leave at home ???
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post Feb 5 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(eddy230379 @ Feb 5 2011, 09:51 PM)
if anyone wanna gather please count me in ok ???    icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 6 2011, 06:02 PM

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@Ironman Your ISO samples... were they shot @RAW then coverted to JPEG?
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post Feb 6 2011, 06:11 PM

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I tested my ISO12800 on my 550D and noticed NO choma noise at all. But yours have tons of it sweat.gif
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post Feb 6 2011, 06:39 PM

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Ironman.. yes nod.gif

I'm preparing to upload some RAW--->JPEG samples now as we speak. Unedited.No PP whatsoever.No Chroma noise at all,just "monotone" noise. NR disabled as well smile.gif

Here's one picture just to show the comparsion first. The other sample I'm uploading and its taking damn slow

Literally I'm shocked.. shocking.gif

550D @ISO12800

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Samples here: Resized to 14/15mp because flickr won't allow more than 20mb per pic upload doh.gif

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421281628/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5420688581/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421312284/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421327342/sizes/o/

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post Feb 6 2011, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 6 2011, 07:04 PM)
Where's the EXIF? Didn't see any. Also, what's the lighting condition?

Shooting in broad daylight and pushing the ISO to ISO 12800 just for the sake of shooting in high ISO would not yield undesirable noise when the exposure is correct. Hope the photo posted is not what I have mentioned. You can still create undesirable noise in the picture by using ISO 100 or even ISO 50 by not getting the exposure correct.

Best is to shoot at night and blow up the picture 100% in the shadows.
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EXIF data is all there in the flickr link I gave. If you want, I would be glad to personally give you all the samples you want. Just gimme a PM smile.gif

And errr you're missing the point. Compare my sample pictures to Tony Stark's 5D Mark 2/D700. Why does his sample have so much chroma noise whereas mine is quite "clean' or only monotone noise? His noise is kinda "ugly" and blotchy/patchy or whatever it's called..

Anyway, I shot those indoors in not so gud lighting conditions smile.gif

I'm suspecting the problem is caused by the software he's using to convert RAW to JPEG hmm.gif

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Feb 6 2011, 07:03 PM)
I am also curious about the high ISO performance in low light situation.. what say you?
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Not too bad. I don't go more than ISO3200 usually..

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post Feb 6 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Feb 6 2011, 09:04 PM)
I think you are missing the point. To make a clear & unbiased comparison of the ISO, you should test 5Dmk2, D700 and 550D side by side all under EXACT lighting conditions & subject. Do like what Tony Stary did for his comparison of the 5dmk2 & D700.
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I must be really MAD if I were to actually want to compare the ISO performance of my mere 550D against the Full Frame galore 5D Mark 2/ Nikon D700.. smile.gif

Read back my posts, I was just pointing out why is Tony Stark's ISO samples have so much chromatic noise but mine at the same ISO doesn't even have a hint of it? I gave several samples at different lighting conditions, some were pretty bad, some were better. But in the end, all samples didn't even exhibit any chroma noise, just luminance noise smile.gif

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/image-noise2.htm

I'm still perplexed to be honest rclxub.gif

Here are the samples again.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421281628/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5420688581/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421312284/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kytz/5421327342/sizes/o/

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post Feb 6 2011, 09:44 PM

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Edit: Fastone Image Viewer eh? That's the culprit!! Go throw it to dustbin larrrr laugh.gif You need at least a DPP or Lightroom 3 lar thumbup.gif

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post Feb 8 2011, 07:58 PM

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How about Sigma 17-50 f/2.8? smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 8 2011, 08:06 PM)
isn't that 4.5 aperture of 1870 good enough for indoor? hmm.gif
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f/4.5?

Really tak cukup bro. Using my kitlens I was literally shooting at speeds of like 1/25, 1/30 at some point. But still managed to get good shots.

f/2.8 is the way to go since you have the budget for it smile.gif
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post Feb 8 2011, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 8 2011, 08:59 PM)
goldfries told me by having VR on lens actually reduce the shaking when you meter the object therefore you will compose easier, this unlike VR on body like what sony does.
I myself not sure though.
Anyway thanks for the input guys. I've decided to go for 1870. Thanks  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I think it's like this. I'm not too sure also:

The effect of VR/IS turned on, you can notice it through the viewfinder whereas for Sony's body "stabilisation" , you can't see the "effect" of it, through the viewfinder

Therefore, when framing using IS/VR lenses, you get less "shake" when viewing through the viewfinder, so it's easier to compose when the frame is steady.

But for Sony's body IS case, you don't get to see the effect. So what you view through the viewfinder is a "shaky" image. So you'll find it harder to compose

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post Feb 9 2011, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(mint87 @ Feb 9 2011, 05:07 PM)
hi guys

i got a question,

do u shoot in RAW, and edit in RAW first then convert it to jpeg?

or shoot in RAW, convert it to jpeg, then edit it?

i cant find any RAW editing software in my nikon software

im using the nikon ViewNX
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Defeats the purpose of shooting RAW in the first place? hmm.gif
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post Feb 9 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 9 2011, 10:40 PM)
Just sold my nissin di622 M2.
ready for 1870. wub.gif
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