Hi all,

How valued is PMP in the current job market and I would also need a little bit of clarification with regards to the pre-requisite to sit for PMP.

In the website it is stated that at least 3500 hours in project management capacity. Does this mean "worked as a Project Manager" for 3500 hours OR worked in project management line for 3500 hours?

Value : PMP is a growing requirement in project management space nowadays. It won't get you the job but will help certainly. It is not the certificate but the person in the end.

3500 hours working (verification may be required) in any or across project phases - Initiate, Plan, Control, Execute and Close. Yes that means you need to be in a Project Manager capacity or a PM assistant.

its not going to be a walk in a park and its getting tougher every year.

This post has been edited by DarkAeon: Jan 22 2011, 03:54 PM

Hi Darkaeon

Care to clarify a bit on the Verification May be Required part? who verifies it?

PM Assistant qualifies? thats good to know I'm a IT Business Analyst currently so I guess that falls under that category

if your application is selected for audit by PMI, you need to provide contacts and signatures of your project sponsors or supervising manager to endorse that you did complete the hours. You need to do so for all projects you mentioned in your application that contributes to your 3500 hours.

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Added on January 22, 2011, 4:47 pmhere's a training provider I am certified through and I think they are pretty good. here's the URL (i'm not in anyway affiliated to them)

there is also a PMP 'society' which is pretty active in Malaysia, good for networking and contacts.

all the best kelvin

This post has been edited by DarkAeon: Jan 22 2011, 04:47 PM

Very informative. I'm actually building up towards this. Still trying to cover my 3500 hours first.

Thanks a million

wah so good .. somebody initiated this thread.. anyhow i also wanted to apply for this PMP course bt then ah, that person told me the course is a 5day course and then do my own exam online..

cost at RM5,500 wor after discounts.. sumore that 5 days is on mon-fri..
felt a bit weird cause 5days then self learning bt have to pay so much...

I havent gotten all the information I need so far. PMP is a 5 days course after that you sit for an exam?

I thought it was self study and go sit for the exam.

ok, just to clarify. you need to take the exam at the only PMI certified examination center in Malaysia - prometric (Sheraton Hotel KL). the exam is 4 hours long with 200 objective questions. it is designed to really test you and make sure u know your stuffs - so its not going to be a joy ride

you CAN self study and sit for the exam yourself - just that the failure rate is much higher this way. my advice is to go to a certified training provider as reading the material yourself could be difficult.

believe me, it is unlike other certifications which you could do a brain dump or self study and pass with flying colours

i don't think i would have passed it reading on my own - just my 2 cents. the exam will include general management questions, ethics among other things that you may not get from the book.

You need to attend course 35 hours course, after you complete, you will get a reference number. You only can registered with the reference number together with a so called "essay" of what had you completed within the 3500 hours.

After you passed the exam, you are PMP certified but the validity just for 3 years. Within the 3 years, you need to gather certain of points to get the PMP certified renew.

I stand corrected. Totally forgot about the 35 hours course requirement. Guess you can't DIY afterall

Interesting to know on the points part and validity.

How do you acquire these points and what is the minimum amount of points to acquire to renew? If you fail then you are no longer PMP certified?

Even after you renew it, how long is the validity from there?

You gain PDUs (professional development units) by going to PMI approved events or courses. for example, a one day forum could net u 4 PDUs or a 3 day event could net u 24 PDUs. You need to renew every 3 years and you will need to accumulate 60 PDUs in that period. failing to do that, you lose the certification and you will need to sit through the exam again

@Darkaeon
so it has little to do with job after u acquired the PMP? Its more like you have to attend events / courses? For these, you would have to search for it or it is by invite only by the body governing PMP ?

the events, forums and courses are sometimes very useful in your job - they bring you the latest ideas, techniques to do your job as a PM. after you get your PMP, you can choose to join various groups. These groups will advertise the availability of such events or courses to all their members. alternatively you can actively search on your own as well.

i have heard there are online resources to enable you to earn PDUs at no cost (ie watching videos etc). but i have never tried them.

This post has been edited by DarkAeon: Jan 24 2011, 10:56 AM

@darkaeon
Thanks for your feedback so far. You mentioned that online resources allow u to earn PDUs at no cost.

Meaning those forums / events etc that a certified PMP attends has cost involved?

yup....it usually costs you to join these events. for instance if they invite a speaker from the US to talk about a topic, they will need to cover the expenses for instance. usually it is value for money - u just need to select the topic you are interested in or get your company to send you

i am doing mpm... considering pmp... but failure rate is very high..

Whats mpm?

Failure Rate High = Good

Meaning there's quality in the certification, and not every "Tom, d*** & Harry" can get it.

masters in pm

pmp, pmi = us
prince2 = uk

mpm = both.. academically not professionally

true, both pmp n prince2 are also very strict

Hi,

Im taking up PMP now. Very knowledgeable tutor. Reasonable charges. PM me for details. Thx.

This post has been edited by thana146: Feb 8 2011, 03:16 PM

why dont just spill the details here?

Hi Alaskanbunny,

The PMP course is not hours based. You get to attend normal class/ extra class/ revision class without extra cost. The speed of the class will be based on the group members. And its flexible. The course fee is reasonable. No hidden charges. Valid until you pass the exam.

The tutor have more than 6 years experience in teaching PMP. Free consultation can be arranged.

If interested, PM me the details and I will get the tutor to call you personally.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by thana146: Feb 9 2011, 06:52 PM

Hello guys .. im afraid to open a double thread related to PMP so I think this is the best place for me to ask ... ..

Well .. I've planned to sit for the PMP exams .... maybe in next 3 months and currently attending for the class .. online and class room sessions ..

maybe got any members here already passed the exam or planning to take one........ really looking an advise from you guys ...
whats need to be prepared ?
did you guys went through all your exercise ?? ..
is there any special tips for passing the exams ??

hmmmmm looking for forward to hear from you guys .... cheers and many thanks .......

u got pmbok already?... planning to take it too but towards end of the year... hope u can share ur materials XD

btw, are u into eng. or it?

ive got the pmbok ady ...... but from some reading on the net ... most of them are not really advised to concentrate on the pmbok ... but some of them saying have to read through all the chapter 2 or 3 times

hmmmm .. am from IT bro .. what about you ?? my material is only the notes from the class ...... and some online material and a book from Rita Mulcahy .. the famous girl which having an 18 yrs of experience.... unlike PMBOK ... this book will thoroughly guide you on how to prepare for the exam ... a noob like me need more material like this .. but sure .. your real life PM experience will help you ...

well ... i planned to takes in next 3 months .. so its like all out study for me .. haish ....

This post has been edited by akisendro: Mar 2 2011, 04:42 AM

I just took my PMP Exam Prep and planning to take the plunge (exam) next January.
Anyone planning to take too? I am looking for anyone who are willing to share the cost to buy that Rita Mucahy book

*it's RM300 plus btw

i am planning to take both pmp and rmp... dont know whether i have the time to study or not... scary...

you in SG? (based on your signature there). I took the course there last month.

When you plan to take?

yeaps, sg.. i am planning to take early next year... have to see whether my other course is taking time...


where did you take it from? i know so far erc and another classmate is teaching both pmp and rmp

does it help? in work i mean

shin-chan, for me it really does.

alaskabunny, i went to ESI International, 111 Somerset.

I want to buy the Rita Mulcahy PMP 6th edition but not available in KL. Have you seen it in SG?

nope, i am using project management a managerial approach 7th ed, jack r. meredith and samuel j. mantel

Hi all. I am graduating from university majoring in mechanical engineering soon.

I am sure that most of you have experience as a fresh graduate trying to get your career stated in this direction.

Mind to share your experiences with me? Thanks

are you saying toward Project Mgmt direction?

you can read here what's the reuquirement
http://www.pmi.org/Certification.aspx

so you can align towards it

cheers

if you're heading towards engineering... gain some experience first before enrolling for any project management course... it will help a lot

Eh, PMP needs degree and like 4500 hours of managing projects then only can take, no? that's like 1.5-2.5 years.

it's 4,500 non overlapping hour's. You must be realistic as well to include annual leave, public holidays & weekends.
And daily realistically 8 hours.

So let's say 1 year left only 365 - 130 = 235

Hours = 235 x 8 = 1880

So 4500/1880 ~ 2.5 years onwards

just completed my PMP during fasting month ... what i would say ... the exam is easy for those who can shape their mind as a real PM ... even those who work as a PM but without applying the right 'attitude' will have some issues on this

my preparation is pure simple :

1. RITA book
- starting with the light reading and towards to the end I am more concentrate on dealing to understand the key point of each Knowledge Process)
- this book is more detail ... and most of the time u will find a lot of negativity on her words ... but just dont put too much attention to it..
- good exercise on each chaps .. try to get at least 70 - 80 % on each process knowledge and you're good to go for the exam

2. Head First PMP
- This one is really recommended for those who just about to start ur exam journey ... simple explanation compared to RITA's .... but some chaps are just too simple and you're still be needed to read RITA to get full understanding of some concept.
- 1 thing I like about this books is the pictorial explanation which not much can be seen on RITA's

3. PMBOK4
- TBH .. .im not reading much and I dont think I ever fully read this book.. just using the glossary for some of the acronyms used on the books above ...

4. PREP TEST
- towards the end of my preparations .. i took a lot of exams ...... either free or not ... im highly recommending for pmstudy.com test ... i bought all 4 tests for my very last prep-test and ive found the exam question are more similar to what ive found on test.
- this really helps me as i can really identify my weakness .... dont remember too much ...... i just remember the page 44 on PMBOK
- by doing so... i can understand the ITTO being used on each knowledge process and PM framework. ........ n finally .. register urself at pmzilla.com .. there's a lot of Lesson learnt from those who failed or passed the exam .... and plus .. a lot of simplified note for u to download n read......

SUMMARY
i know all these because i didnt go for any actual classes .. all i did is registered myself for pm-prepcast for 100 USD ony .. just for me to get the 35 hrs PDU .... which i used for my pmp eligibility application ..

plus im not a PM .. just having enough hours for the involvement in project..... total of my investment is not less than RM 2000 including exam + internet course + some paid test and most of the test are available for free in the net.....

last but not least .. register urself as PMI member first as you can save around 20 - 30 USD when u want to apply for the exam (one of the benefit is you can access their free virtual library).... and it is not as hard as you think ... dont stress urself for remembering the key point ... please put more on understanding on the whole concept and it will do wonders for you guys ...

good luck to all PMP aspirant .... cheers

This post has been edited by akisendro: Nov 9 2011, 03:57 PM

I am interested towards pmp also..
can anyone help to draft the chronology of test or process we have to pass/go through

Some say write essay describing ur experience 3500 hours in project management before u can get approval for course..

what is it we have to do first?

Kindly help'

no need an essay ... 1st ... complete the training at any PMI recognized training centre or online training which contribute the compulsory 35 hrs PDU ..

2nd ... study study study ..... ( i have put some of the suggested material for self - learning )

3rd ... register yourself and you will have to submit the 3500 hrs project management.. you dont need to submit an essay .. it just your contributing hours on project phase which divided into 5 ... initiate ... planning ... execute .. monitor and control ... and closing ...

- some brief information regarding your roles and project information on the additional comment area

- it is on pdf format .. if you submitted online .. it would takes 2 - 5 working days while normal post (hard copy) would take around 1 - 2 weeks .. you can check at PMI website ...

4th once you've got green light from PMI for taking the exam .. you have 1 year to schedule your exam .. you will be given an exam code where you hv to put when scheduling the exam with prometric ... AFAIK ... we have ony 1 place in msia .. so it is advisable for u to schedule a month earlier ...

5th ..... after 3 hours and 200 questions ....... wait for about 10 - 15 sec .. then ur result will appear on the screen .... if u failed (hope not) ... u have 2 chances left in a year .. or else you have to re-submit again ...

6th .. once u passed .. in order to maintain ur pmp status .. u need maintain at least 60 pdu if im not mistaken within 3 years .. its either submitting a white paper to PMI or taking part on their activities... or the easiest way is to buy some material on the net which will award you the PDU hours needed ....

cheers .. hope this would help you bradah

This post has been edited by akisendro: Nov 9 2011, 06:12 PM

Those books and tests you have is that hardcopy or softcopy ...? Can share?

how do you fulfill the requirements of 4500 hours of project management experience if you are not a Project Manager? if you are a team member in a project, does that counts towards the hours?

@meors
What do you mean by non-overlapping hours? Care to elaborate?

Means if Proj A u handled 500 hours, and Proj B u handled 500 hours .. but both project run concurrently .. your accumulate hours is 500 instead of 1000 ...

you can be an assistant to the PM for example. And no, being a team member doesn't count towards the hours

yes it is... some of the project I involves .. as a project coordinator .. some of it as a project member leading a work package during the project .. PMI does accept my applications .. 4500 for a degree holders ... read on the link below for better understandings :

http://www.pmi.org/Certification/Project-M...sional-PMP.aspx

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Added on November 10, 2011, 12:01 amnot hardcopy bro .. u can refer to the link below :

some free test site

http://headfirstlabs.com/PMP/free_exam/
http://www.oliverlehmann.com/pmp-self-test...e-questions.htm
http://www.brainbok.com/
......

PM STUDY .. u have to purchase it .. its limited time for 2 days for each payment ... just 25 USD for 2 days .. and it got 4 sets of questions ......
for more information .. u better go and check PMZILLA.com forum ..... there's a lot of materials related to PMP are shared ....

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Added on November 10, 2011, 12:06 amduring my application ... i did put the project which run con-currently ..... so in ur case .. u should get 1000 project hours ... PMI want to see your hours counted on a single project either its independently running or concurrently ... for more informations .. reads the FAQ at PMI site ..

This post has been edited by akisendro: Nov 10 2011, 12:08 AM

Hi,

I jz passed my PMP exam within 2 months preparation.
Sharing some of the preparation tips here :
1. Register yourself as PMI member as soon as possible. You will get discount for the exam!
2. Download the latest PMBOK guide to study.
3. At least read through PMBOK guide 2 times, and also use it to as main reference while doing sample test.
4. If you are running out of time to do reading, play audio material while you are driving. (We always trap in the traffic jam... you will have panty of time to learn in the car!)
5. Do as much sample test question as possible. Give yourself a target of 75% to 80% score in every of your test.
6. Every question that you did wrong in the preparation test, check the correct answer and understand your mistake.
If you find the answer very doubtful, always follow the answer given in PMBOK.
7. Give yourself a real test simulation before the exam! ie. Sit yourself down for 4hours test without interruption.
You will find the first 50 questions is easy to understand, then 50 - 100 questions not too bad... 150 questions, you start to feel hard to concentrate and
struggle through the last 50 questions.
8. Pre-book your exam date with Prometic as soon as you are ready! Preferably morning slot.
9. Be relax and confident on the day of your exam. Be in the test center 30min before your exam.
10. You will need to bring along your identity card/passport and credit card. Suggest NOT to wear shirt and pant with a lot of POCKETS! (because they will
ask you to show empty your pocket every time you entering the exam hall)
11. After entering the exam hall, you will have 15min to write down your notes (ie. formulas) before you start the exam.
12. When you click start exam, the clock with start counting. You can always mark the questions that you are not sure with the answer and come back to review it after you have completed 200 questions.
13. Suggest you simply hit an answer that you are willing to bet with before you mark and move on to next question.
14. Spend about 50sec to 1min on each question, not too rush not too long. Reserve some time to relax yourself or go washroom.
15. You will get your result 5min after you click submit. Wait for another 10min for the admin staff to print out the result slip and hopefully she will say CONGRATULATION to you!

All the best ~



This post has been edited by donn: Jan 27 2012, 04:31 PM

if fail gotta pay the full exam fees again? got discount?

Which audio book you used?

Project Management Professional Exam Study Guide - by Kim Heldman

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Added on December 5, 2011, 2:21 pmNot quite sure ... as i passed on the first test.

This post has been edited by donn: Dec 5 2011, 02:21 PM

hi, just wondering anybody is going to take the PMP this year before inmplementation of PMBOK 5th edition?

This post has been edited by mcsiaw: Jan 31 2012, 09:55 AM

Hi, i am planning to persuit PMP certification. I personally opt for online learning + classroom training.

One of the online training i come across is this: http://www.simplilearn.com/simplilearn/pmp_exam/about-pmp

I think it's quite comprehensive and the price is affordable. Anyway, since my company is sponsored me, i decided to take another classroom training for 4 days.

My question is as i foresee my schedule from June will be very tight, i am planning to seat for the exam by 2nd week of June. Thus, my question is do you think is possible to prepare for this exam in 1.5 month time? How much effort i need to put in and what is the potential challenges and risk i may be facing?

Kindly assist, thanks.

This post has been edited by kinkikids: Apr 20 2012, 12:28 AM

once u pay ur fee to PMI, u can set ur exam schedule with prometric KL. i schedule my exam on august.

in my opinion one need to read through PMBOK and do lots of sim question. I took PM Prepcast n doing PM Fastrack v7 which i find is quite comprehensive. goin to subscribe to PM Exam Simulator once it offer discount voucher.

Thanks for the feedback. Anyway, i hope i can schedule my on July/August as well but i afraid it may not be viable as July and August i may need to travel abroad for project go live and conduct trainings.

So looking at my schedule, best time for me is to complete it before mid of June, else i may need to postpone the whole thing to December...really hope to complete it asap, since the momentum is here now...

Pass my PMP in the first test today!

Selling off the following book:
RM100- PMP Practice Makes Perfect (John Wiley & Sons)
free xtra item : answer bubble sheets

bought on 29/7/2012 at MPH. is a nice book. like new, no conteng at the questions.



This post has been edited by mcsiaw: Aug 16 2012, 05:47 PM

Has anyone applied the incentive from Myprocert programme?How long will it get the refund after the PMP exam.?

Rgds,
Kl Choo

We offer PMP class room based trainings at very nominal prices. Please do contact us at info@propmacademy.com or on +919845280484.

Any good pmp institute to recommend? Plan to take PMP..

Hi , need advice, i have been approach by job hunter to join pmp online training for rm700 for 65 days. Once certified the agent will have me joining as project manager position which salary is guarrantee usd50k. Im curious just having pmp certified how can the company pay with lots of money. Can this be trusted? What is the salary range for those having pmp? Pls advice. I'm not from project managing background.

i think the salary depends on what kind of PM you are. in IT it can range widely due to the large scope. infrastructure PM could be in the range of Rm6-15k depending on your seniority. i heard before SAP PM will get about Rm25k. i think overall it depends on how rare the PM scope is. if demand more than supply, the salary will increase