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post Jan 22 2011, 12:40 PM, updated 15y ago

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I have been having this problem since I changed my middle exhaust part together with the bullet cause bocor. The exhaust fume smells heavy of unburnt petrol and it does not go away even after the engine has warmed up.

Anyone can recommend me any shop to adjust the A/F in Ipoh,perak
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post Jan 22 2011, 01:38 PM

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waja can adjust A/F ?? , i think remap only can.

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post Jan 22 2011, 02:07 PM

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Some sensor faulty... O2 sensor for example...
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post Jan 22 2011, 02:34 PM

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This engine make Mitsubishi leave Proton last time.. don't get full QC approval..

I think your car more that 7 years old oledi, now it right time to change piston ring.. last time U did not smell unburn fuel maybe coz old exhaust have a lot carbon inside.
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post Jan 22 2011, 02:38 PM

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check engine tuning...
might need to do top engine overhaul...
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post Jan 22 2011, 05:21 PM

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Since you said that you change your exhaust before, I suspect that the fella already take out your Catalytic Converter and replace it with a bullet. Maybe you can pay the exhaust shop a visit again and ask them about it?

"Catalytic Conver is a device used to reduce the toxicity of emissions from an internal combustion engine."
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post Jan 22 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 22 2011, 05:21 PM)
Since you said that you change your exhaust before, I suspect that the fella already take out your Catalytic Converter and replace it with a bullet. Maybe you can pay the exhaust shop a visit again and ask them about it?

"Catalytic Conver is a device used to reduce the toxicity of emissions from an internal combustion engine."
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that was the first thing that came to my mind. Cause I noticed some improvement to my pick up. Was adviced by my mech to decat my car cause he says will improve low end pickup.Anyway,did not follow his advice when I went to fix my exhaust that time

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post Jan 22 2011, 06:36 PM

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Reduce toxicity means sulphur right and carbon monoxide. If u smell like a petrol i dont think iy was caused by that. Most probably u need to sent to mech i check obd2 for a/f to findout ur engine running stoic or rich. My 2 cents
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jan 22 2011, 02:34 PM)
This engine make Mitsubishi leave Proton last time.. don't get full QC approval..

I think your car more that 7 years old oledi, now it right time to change piston ring.. last time U did not smell unburn fuel maybe coz old exhaust have a lot carbon inside.
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7 years need to change piston ring? Any source to support this?
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:24 PM

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Nop. If piston ring problem there will be a black smoke
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:27 PM

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Yeah, I know that... Let our friend to answer, ok?
Got strong petrol smell during cold start are normal, but after fully warm up and still got smell, something not that right... Pour a bottle of fuel injection cleaner as a start.... If still cannot, have to clean the whole injection system, should be rm300-400.....
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:32 PM

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What is the purpose of fuel injector cleaner? If im not mistaken if the car is old enough, the petrol tank will corrosive a little bit @ petrol at the gas station is contamibated and that is why petrol filter used for. The function to clean the petrol before petrol go to injector. Maybe the owner forgot to change the petrol filter every 40k
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:35 PM

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I change my petrol filter after 100k also no problem.....
Because you got carbon build ups on the injection heads, so you need to clean them.... Either you do it once(let foreman clean that cost rm300-400) or pour in injection cleaner once a while.... I've been doing this for the past 6 years and so far my car never fails on me....
This makes my foreman quite angry with me sometimes...
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:41 PM

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the manual said 40k but still can go more.. but 100k? is too much bro.. thats why u always used fuel injector cleaner.. but if im not mistaken the cost is not cheap for vios..Rm400+ but for proton really cheap.. wira Rm12 .. hehehehe
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QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 22 2011, 12:40 PM)
I have been having this problem since I changed my middle exhaust part together with the bullet cause bocor. The exhaust fume smells heavy of unburnt petrol and it does not go away even after the engine has warmed up.

Anyone can recommend me any shop to adjust the A/F in Ipoh,perak
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ur check engine light got turn on??... hows ur fuel consumption??.. same or became heavy ever since the unburnt fuel smell started??..
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jan 22 2011, 08:41 PM)
the manual said 40k but still can go more.. but 100k? is too much bro.. thats why u always used fuel injector cleaner.. but if im not mistaken the cost is not cheap for vios..Rm400+ but for proton really cheap.. wira Rm12 .. hehehehe
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Old saga yes, rm12 and still got balance... But Wira is rm60-70 + installations... Even if I change on time, I still need to put injection cleaner.... As it still get partial blocked.... I always record down my FC each top up, so I can tell when I need to pour in(either strong smell or bad FC)....
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post Jan 22 2011, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 22 2011, 08:41 PM)
ur check engine light got turn on??... hows ur fuel consumption??.. same or became heavy ever since the unburnt fuel smell started??..
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Thats the funny thing.No check engine light, car starts normally. Fuel consumption still remains the same before and after .But if compare to other waja's,I consider the FC bad.Rm30 of RON95 can last me 180km.Probably all this while, my engine has been running rich just that I did not notice it.
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post Jan 23 2011, 09:47 AM

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I got strong exhaust fumes after decat.
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QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 22 2011, 09:55 PM)
Thats the funny thing.No check engine light, car starts normally. Fuel consumption still remains the same before and after .But if compare to other waja's,I consider the FC bad.Rm30 of RON95 can last me 180km.Probably all this while, my engine has been running rich just that I did not notice it.
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yes it should be.. ur car should be running rich since long time ago...
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post Jan 23 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 23 2011, 01:16 PM)
yes it should be.. ur car should be running rich since long time ago...
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Anyway,what are the remedies for this kind of problem? Go for engine tune-up? I am not sure if any mechanic has the specialised equipment to do tune-up for proton cars other than Authorised Proton workshop
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post Jan 23 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Jan 22 2011, 08:20 PM)
7 years need to change piston ring? Any source to support this?
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No need source to support what I claim. I'm based on logic, every car got wear & tear even luxury car also facing it, for >7 years daily use.. combustion will not same as one day old car. maybe petrol not properly burn (fully burn) or only burn 70-80% due to leak compression in combustion chamber. If you want to maintain car performance for >7years.. that what you should do. Don't wait until smoke turn out, car breakdown & etc just to save money..

I also see people comment on Fuel Injector, if based on logic.. if carbon build ups on the injection heads which mean Injector hole has been block by carbon. Can Fuel/Petrol enter more than usual....

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post Jan 23 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 23 2011, 03:39 PM)
Anyway,what are the remedies for this kind of problem? Go for engine tune-up? I am not sure if any mechanic has the specialised equipment to do tune-up for proton cars other than Authorised Proton workshop
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Like I mentioned in my previous post, the problem lies on the Catalytic Converter. All car should smells the same after they replace the Catalytic Converter with a bullet or midbox which both of them function act as a resonator instead of reducing toxic in emissions.

Even buddy "acbc" mentioned that his ride got strong petrol fumes after decat, even my ride aswell. If you're an environmental friendly guy, you should put back the catalytic converter but bear in mind you might lose out some performance as the catalytic converter is pretty restrictive.
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:46 PM)
Like I mentioned in my previous post, the problem lies on the Catalytic Converter. All car should smells the same after they replace the Catalytic Converter with a bullet or midbox which both of them function act as a resonator instead of reducing toxic in emissions.

Even buddy "acbc" mentioned that his ride got strong petrol fumes after decat, even my ride aswell. If you're an environmental friendly guy, you should put back the catalytic converter but bear in mind you might lose out some performance as the catalytic converter is pretty restrictive.
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What are the average mileage you are getting for your waja?
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post Jan 23 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jan 23 2011, 04:41 PM)
No need source to support what I claim. I'm based on logic, every car got wear & tear even luxury car also facing it, for >7 years daily use.. combustion will not same as one day old car. maybe petrol not properly burn (fully burn) or only burn 70-80% due to leak compression in combustion chamber. If you want to maintain car performance for >7years.. that what you should do. Don't wait until smoke turn out, car breakdown & etc just to save money..

I also see people comment on Fuel Injector, if based on logic.. if carbon build ups on the injection heads which mean Injector hole has been block by carbon. Can Fuel/Petrol enter more than usual....
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So, is based on your logic, my car almost 8 years and done 260kkm, so I need to do top overhaul?
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QUOTE(kyheng @ Jan 22 2011, 08:53 PM)
Old saga yes, rm12 and still got balance... But Wira is rm60-70 + installations... Even if I change on time, I still need to put injection cleaner.... As it still get partial blocked.... I always record down my FC each top up, so I can tell when I need to pour in(either strong smell or bad FC)....
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Old saga rm5 only( plastic) oil filter. Wira rm12(steel).
Rm60 too much, that foreman might con you kaw2. Change it also very easy like abc.


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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:46 PM)
Like I mentioned in my previous post, the problem lies on the Catalytic Converter. All car should smells the same after they replace the Catalytic Converter with a bullet or midbox which both of them function act as a resonator instead of reducing toxic in emissions.

Even buddy "acbc" mentioned that his ride got strong petrol fumes after decat, even my ride aswell. If you're an environmental friendly guy, you should put back the catalytic converter but bear in mind you might lose out some performance as the catalytic converter is pretty restrictive.
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Like i sai before, what is the functin of this catalytic converter? Yes, emission control system. Emission only to filter sox, nox and co. I dont think this 3 thibg smell like a petrol. My 2 cents. Go for pdt first, cek the a/f, tps, tb signal and etc. Dont go at proton sc centre of cos it wil charge u kaw2. Go for the reputable foreman that have pdt/mut/obd2 equipment. Rm20- rm30 only.


Added on January 23, 2011, 7:25 pmIf the problem still persist it might be caused by CC.

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post Jan 23 2011, 07:42 PM

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^^^.... I see... But considering he have to take out few parts, and it take him 30 minutes to complete the job....

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:46 PM)
Like I mentioned in my previous post, the problem lies on the Catalytic Converter. All car should smells the same after they replace the Catalytic Converter with a bullet or midbox which both of them function act as a resonator instead of reducing toxic in emissions.

Even buddy "acbc" mentioned that his ride got strong petrol fumes after decat, even my ride aswell. If you're an environmental friendly guy, you should put back the catalytic converter but bear in mind you might lose out some performance as the catalytic converter is pretty restrictive.
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Now, I'm going to decat my Triton... sure lots of black smoke on full boost. Haha... teach those rempits a lesson should they ever tail be from behind.
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jan 23 2011, 07:20 PM)
Old saga rm5 only( plastic) oil filter. Wira rm12(steel).
Rm60 too much, that foreman might con you kaw2. Change it also very easy like abc.


Added on January 23, 2011, 7:24 pm
Like i sai before, what is the functin of this catalytic converter? Yes, emission control system. Emission only to filter sox, nox and co. I dont think this 3 thibg smell like a petrol. My 2 cents. Go for pdt first, cek the a/f, tps, tb signal and etc. Dont go at proton sc centre of cos it wil charge u kaw2. Go for the reputable foreman that have pdt/mut/obd2 equipment. Rm20- rm30 only.


Added on January 23, 2011, 7:25 pmIf the problem still persist it might be caused by CC.
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Sorry to say that but you're replying and quoting my replies like a retard. You ask what's the function of Catalytic Converter, yet you know it's for emission control. You ask people check this check that but at last you say if problem still persist it might caused by Catalytic Converter, so what's your point of reply?

Mind if I ask did you remove your car catalytic converter before?
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post Jan 24 2011, 09:09 AM

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^^Angry liao.... Anyway, strong smell on Proton cars, the best still pour in a bottle fuel injection cleaner as no need to get foreman to check, not that expensive and easy....
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jan 24 2011, 03:55 AM)
Sorry to say that but you're replying and quoting my replies like a retard. You ask what's the function of Catalytic Converter, yet you know it's for emission control. You ask people check this check that but at last you say if problem still persist it might caused by Catalytic Converter, so what's your point of reply?

Mind if I ask did you remove your car catalytic converter before?
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i want to explain the function to u.. u said that the fuel smell because of catalytic converter.. i want to ask u question fuel smell = sox,nox and CO ?
i just suggesting.. remove the catalytic converter and put it back is not cheap bro.. + you dont know it is really caused by it.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

no arguement.. no one right and no one wrong.... this is just an opinion... newbies opinion from ex proton eng.
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QUOTE(Oldskolboyz @ Jan 23 2011, 04:41 PM)
No need source to support what I claim. I'm based on logic, every car got wear & tear even luxury car also facing it, for >7 years daily use.. combustion will not same as one day old car. maybe petrol not properly burn (fully burn) or only burn 70-80% due to leak compression in combustion chamber. If you want to maintain car performance for >7years.. that what you should do. Don't wait until smoke turn out, car breakdown & etc just to save money..

I also see people comment on Fuel Injector, if based on logic.. if carbon build ups on the injection heads which mean Injector hole has been block by carbon. Can Fuel/Petrol enter more than usual....
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So, is based on your logic, my car almost 8 years and done 260kkm, so I need to do top overhaul?

Bump for an answer from the screen coward....

 

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