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Local Clubs ░▒▓▒▓▒ M A L ★ Y S I A ▒▓▒▓▒░, (WCQ) 29/6 | MAS 2-1 TPE (Safiq & Aidil)

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QUOTE(AKace @ Feb 4 2011, 08:03 AM)
Good try, kalau dapat club dari J2 pun ok, Shiji Kagawa pun pernah main kat J2. Japan U21 pemenang Asian games pun byk player masih main kat J University League dan J2. Asalkan blh improve lah.
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Bagus la kalau Brendan Gan tu berminat untuk bermain dengan team Malaysia. Will definitely help our squad, and international experience for him will improve him too, for example Asian Cup qualifiers against country like Iran, Saudi etc in the future. Hopefully he can fit into the team, without any cultural clashes if it happens.

PS: Jersi Mesia kalau aku print nama dia "Brendan", orang ingat aku print Nama sendiri laugh.gif
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Harap2 Brendan ni menjadi bukan macam Rudie Ramli dan Akmal Rizal Ahmad Rakhli. Tapi dia ni lain sikit sebab dia lahir dan di besarkan di Australia. So, moga2 family dia dari Malaysia dapat encourage dia untuk menjadi pemain kebangsaan Malaysia x lama lg.
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What about language problem? aku tau la semua pemain2 negara ni at least pandai cakap english, walaupun broken la. tapi so far aku tak pernah nampak orang2 muda yang langsung tak tau english. Tapi aku rasa masa training tu, berkomunikasi dalam melayu...takkan la nak ubah language setting untuk sorang player ni kan?
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xde masalah punya, diorang kan dh professional. Aku rasa Brendan ni sedikit sebanyak kne tau dgn blajar Bahasa Melayu kalau nk wakili Malaysia barulah patriotik. Lagi satu, adakah dgn pengambilan Brendan ni mewakili Malaysia sama dgn langkah naturalisasi oleh Indonesia dan Singapura?
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Betul tu, kalau dia betul2 nak represent Malaysia sebab dia ada perasaan "connected" to Malaysia, then he should at least have the initiative to learn the language.

as for the naturalisasi...memang debatable. aku sebenarnya tak beberapa suka pemain2 yang tak lahir dan hidup di negara tersebut menjadi pemain NT. Dont get me wrong, for example indonesia...Irfan Bachdim tu, at least dia ada heritage Indonesia...and Gonzalez, he lived for quite a long time and his naturalization is political and passport issue, not because 100% footballing reason. yang aku tak suka ialah apabila pemain tersebut diberi passport supaya dia boleh bermain untuk NT tersebut, tanpa memenuhi syarat2 citizenship yang telah ditetapkan oleh negara tersebut.

But countries like Singapore and Qatar, they got reason also...coz their country is small...Qatar that day answered, when asked about naturalized player in their team, "we bring in outsiders for various types of works for example office work, construction etc, not just football". maknanya negara2 kecil ni, bukan bolasepak je...banyak lagi bidang2 lain yang terpaksa mengambil pekerja dari luar negara. But still debatable la, bringing in foreigners for real life work in order for the country to run, is different with bringing in players to compete in a tournament.

If Brendan Gan can convinced us malaysians that he is still keeping in touch with his roots as a malaysian (during holidays balik kampung to visit ka...suka makan nasi lemak ka tongue.gif) then i guess many will be able to accept him. But if him joining is 100% just so he can have international exposure without much regards about the fate of the country's football in the long term...then it could mean more damage than benefit.


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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 4 2011, 07:27 PM)
What about language problem? aku tau la semua pemain2 negara ni at least pandai cakap english, walaupun broken la. tapi so far aku tak pernah nampak orang2 muda yang langsung tak tau english. Tapi aku rasa masa training tu, berkomunikasi dalam melayu...takkan la nak ubah language setting untuk sorang player ni kan?
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btw .... im confuse, as far as i know, Malaysia perlembagaan only allow one nationality. Means if any Malaysian have double nationality his malaysian nationality will be removed.


So what does it means by Branden Gan is Malaysian/Australian? He cant have double nationality.
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his eligibility is based on international status, and as we all know Football is totally different from politics. based on my shallow knowledge on this, it would probably mean he represents Malaysia, as an Australian passport holder. And when he made that 1 appearance, he will be tied to Malaysia in terms of football, but nationality wise he is still an Australian. as for the Malaysian/Australian thingy, it is not nationality...it is ancestry.

at least, thats what i would think thats the case. Anyone who knows about this in more detail can maybe correct me if im wrong tongue.gif

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lol indon still butthurt. they accused the finals were FIXED! shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(AKace @ Feb 4 2011, 10:22 PM)
yang paling bodoh komen2 dari non football fans dari Malaysia kat bawah artikel tu. Siap masuk isu politik lg. Tp x tahulah kalau2 diorang tu sebenarnya orang Indonesia, cme menyamar konon2 jd user dari Malaysia. Kalau nk komen mengarut2 psl politik, g lah malaysiakini tu pn kne subscribe dlu.
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diorang tu akan benci segalanya pasal mesia. aku pelik camna diorang leh jadi rakyat mesia dan benci mesia dalam masa yang sama. tapi bila mintak subsidi ke bantuan ke, tak malu plak.


Added on February 4, 2011, 11:31 pmdiorang tu akan benci segalanya pasal mesia. aku pelik camna diorang leh jadi rakyat mesia dan benci mesia dalam masa yang sama. tapi bila mintak subsidi ke bantuan ke, tak malu plak.

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might as well go investigate that ben williams.

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ok la debatable jugak actually pasal isu naturalisation brendan gan. Aku xkn jd hipokrit bile aku kata i dun care about naturalisation to a certain extent. xpe la die nk main bola ngan country yg die betul2 minat or have parentage. Dulu pn byk je aku dengo orang duk complaint kte lambat amek shaun maloney. Kalau amek maloney tu mmg 100% naturalisation becoz relationship die ngan msia adalah lahir kt msia n duk seketika sahaja. Xde emotional attachment. At least brendan ade parent msian.

Pengalaman aku kt aussie aku tgk ABC (australian born chinese) quite a number from msian parentage. N diorg masih x lupekan roots diorg. mebe dlm setaun or 2 taun skali balik msia lawat sanak saudara.

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Btol tu bro..ABC selalu join us during Malaysian student activities n diorang mmg keen to learn BM n mix around with us. Diorang kata nk take the opportunity to learn more abt their parents punya culture..pernah tgk Brendan main time NSW League lwn team member Aussie aku..terkejut ada Asian player yg mantap dribbling
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 4 2011, 08:32 PM)
his eligibility is based on international status, and as we all know Football is totally different from politics. based on my shallow knowledge on this, it would probably mean he represents Malaysia, as an Australian passport holder. And when he made that 1 appearance, he will be tied to Malaysia in terms of football, but nationality wise he is still an Australian. as for the Malaysian/Australian thingy, it is not nationality...it is ancestry.

at least, thats what i would think thats the case. Anyone who knows about this in more detail can maybe correct me if im wrong tongue.gif
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no he cant represents malaysia if he doesnot posses malaysian passport

check out Kalou (who failed to get Dutch passport during WC 2006 i think)
and Kevin Prince Boateng (who get the Ghana passport just before the world cup)

i read this on facebook "MALAYSIA NATIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM"

i feel that make sense to me

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