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post May 3 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 3 2011, 12:56 PM)
wahh this info is sufficient for me d. tqtq
so u mean i can ignore the aftermarket extractor la?
where can i change the piping? exhaust shop?
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ya look around
exhaust shop can do for you
if mau better workmanship go for got nama punya kedai


Added on May 3, 2011, 5:37 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 3 2011, 12:21 PM)

i tot this sohai car 1.3L only??...  blink.gif  blink.gif
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that fella hlsh 1
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post May 4 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Peekab0o @ May 4 2011, 12:00 AM)
I haz see a futurez monstar in makings  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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post May 4 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 4 2011, 12:31 AM)
change 1.5 block means what? change engine?
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urs is 1.3
change to 1.5 engine
mean find engine block and inside stuff minus the carb , head , alternator , air cond pump
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post May 4 2011, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 4 2011, 01:38 AM)
har dowan change engine ba... thx anyway =D
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change la brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post May 5 2011, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(daredevilcsl @ May 4 2011, 08:33 AM)
hi guys,

just back from overseas....here are some of the pic as promised....

Below is the hose that i mention earlier on...which cause the rpm to be unstable it was left open previously
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it link from the old intake to the manifold
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so i took out some hose joint from the old intake and stuck it back to the hose as i have no time to go down to the workshop and ask the guy there yet...so this is just a temporary solution and it work fine for the moment
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check around see whether got hose disconect around ???
this egr thing not to good with it
my both saga are old non egr 1


Added on May 5, 2011, 4:02 am
QUOTE(Lowenkreuz @ May 4 2011, 08:39 PM)
engine knock is premature ignition in the cylinder if not wrong. engine knock for long time = overhaul. thats what my lecturer told me.
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engine knock = incorrect timing , fouled spark plug , plug cable , distributor cap worn out , incorrect carb setting , distributor unit kong



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post May 5 2011, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(EnochKeng @ May 5 2011, 07:05 PM)
Now im using petronas liao. LOL!

Autochoke, expensive? I ask the mech he said not sure need to see only knw wor. Haiz. He said auto choke spoiled engine wont stall?


Added on May 5, 2011, 7:07 pm
Hahaha juz got the feel "Fearless" haha
I c, why didnt u install alumimiun radiator? Jasma brand seems reasonable on price but i donno about reliability and durability lah.
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autochoke pm TS
he got 1 unit for sale i heard
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jasma only recentlly came out
last time dulu dulu where got
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post May 6 2011, 05:31 AM

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QUOTE(wmd3477 @ May 6 2011, 03:20 AM)
hallo to all...
i've some question regarding my iswara a/b.
normal or cold start my car the rpm is 1.5k till 1k but when i drive for a long period the rpm can reach 2 k when idle. why dis happen?
the FC i think is ok but the higher rpm is annoying is i stop at red light.
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check got hose sudah tanggal anot
if dont have then kasi adjust the idle
i later post up pic


Added on May 6, 2011, 5:32 am
QUOTE(EnochKeng @ May 5 2011, 08:41 PM)
ss spirit spec? mod into our carb? im noob for autochoke. actually it pissed me off every morning, felt like car running 3 cylinder. i wanted to juz change to EFI. but $$ issue.

Jasma tat one look nice. bling bling at ur engine bay. lol
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skywalker spirit spec biggrin.gif
just change the whole unit only

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post May 6 2011, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 6 2011, 05:09 PM)
erm...

1.what is "change 1.6 block"
2. what is "stroker kit"
3. what is the diff with these above and change engine?
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change 1.6 block can mean change to 4g92 , 4g61 as no other 1.6 can fit properrly to our saga
if say bump to 1.6 is change to 1.5 mia block than masuk 1.6 stroker kit
1.5 block kasi lobang besar the bore than masuk 1.6 mia piston
stroker kit mean the replacement kit stroke is longer than ur original hence stroker kit
go wikipedia engine bore and stroke u will understannd better
all these require change engine if urs is 1.3
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post May 6 2011, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(Lowenkreuz @ May 6 2011, 05:54 PM)
hey, what strut bar is that? Apexi? real one ar? Need welding when mount? I'm interested to put UR, but UR d bar will somehow kena the UFO filter thing and requires drilling and welding for the bracket mounting leh...
I prefer plug and play.
How is it compare with UR bar?

Oh btw, I just found out the front of my car got this "yik yik yik" sound when the the car bounce up and down. But the stroke is still good la, not like uncontrollable jumping. This means my front shocks kong liaw?
I knw I will need to change this sooner or later, so how long will it last before it become undriveable? Cuz currently i really pokai, and need to deal with tests, assignments and final exams.
T^T

Oh if i change, should I just put the proride springs + shocks set to replace it or just go SC buy back OEM replacement shock. Cuz i planned to change to sport springs sooner or later. Should I do that? or buy replacement OEM shocks from proton? Proton still got sell the lower LMST front spring ma? cuz my N-line d LMST the front is running on Iswara d spring, which is very tall lah....

Thanks!
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yik yik is bush kong around ur suspension
if you wanted to change abs suggest you change better 1 as palaih oem spec kayaba is not cheap too
get monroe , pro ride , imp
heard all these got good review
i sit before 1 of our veteran saga use monroe can pek like god
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post May 7 2011, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 6 2011, 09:40 PM)
err.. stil dont understand lol..
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1.6 engine that can fit to our saga is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4G9_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Sirius_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Orion_engine

stroke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_(engine)

bore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bore_(engine)


Added on May 7, 2011, 5:32 am
QUOTE(Lowenkreuz @ May 6 2011, 11:23 PM)
oh ya, catacombs, so only my bushing kong nia? are bushing expensives?
around what price? where can find? thanks again. =)
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bush kong from 10 buck to 30 buck
got alot type of bush


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post May 7 2011, 06:00 AM

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both of you tak payah tidur 1 ka ?

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post May 7 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(lyordson @ May 7 2011, 04:29 PM)
powerzone full exhaust system RM910... is that price okeh?
header- RM460, mid bullet- RM200, 1.75" diameter pipe- RM250
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around that price range lo
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post May 8 2011, 12:33 AM

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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1...6203.1137199193
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Added on May 8, 2011, 12:36 am
QUOTE(thken @ May 7 2011, 08:46 PM)
hey guys, random question, normally travel 80-90km/h you guys will use what gear?

rm85/32L of RON97 can give me 400km. fuel consumption ok ka?
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ok la ma

my 1.3 on esso ron 95 @ 33L = 449km
my 1.5 on shell 95 @ 35L = 380km
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Added on May 8, 2011, 12:38 am
QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ May 7 2011, 09:19 PM)
dun waste that money on those. those cap ayam extrator,no brand mid bullet n piping is good enuf edi......
extrator u can choose la.but mid box or bulet n piping all da same onli.important thing is mandrel bent
for me ,i not really trust/beleive powerzone or hotbits as thier just a marketing gimmick.   blush.gif
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Added on May 8, 2011, 12:42 amcrank pulley only myhtelogy is good as it got damper or some sort = 500++ a piece (not sure i ask around only)
if normal lighten make sure the material used is good then enuff liaw

super touring flywheel halfcut shop 200++ full set with used plate and cover
exedy clutch japang mali 230 with plate and cover plus nsk bearing
workmanship cost 80

aftermarket camshaft the best is pipercam 300 degree or autralia mali 292 degree
mau ??? brows.gif

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 8 2011, 01:22 AM)

brows.gif  brows.gif
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anda bila lagi brows.gif
sure wont mati pucuk at 6.2 k
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QUOTE(cadmus @ May 8 2011, 07:04 PM)
My current mechanic did retuning for me for the ignition timing... but he just listen and tune. Is that how it suppose to work?
for car tyre change, probably the budget is around RM800+- for 14 inch tyre?

I'm looking for minimal upgrades for lowering my fuel consumption + better car reaction when using ron95.  i felt the difference when i changed the ron. It's like my limbs are retarded. not fast reaction.lol. Also, if possible, my breaking system or tyre grip so that the car stops when it suppose to stops.
i would be comfortable if it's below RM1k for now but what is the budget range that make sense for the reasonable low end upgrades? 
sad.gif any solution u have to increase the mileage?
what slight tuning u did? and specific tuning range or some sort?
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1k budget for tyre can get high performance tyre brows.gif
advan neuva ad07
14 inch 200++ a piece

ya ignition tuning is this method
my forman lagi keng no need listen agak agak know pusing how much , no more knocking sound shocking.gif
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QUOTE(cadmus @ May 8 2011, 07:31 PM)
I'm still using the stock rims. So, such good performance tyre need to use sport rims?

btw, is carb tuning the same as ignition tuning?
Also, does proton saga 2007 have ECU? saw one forumer selling "Power Booster Turbo Eco Extra" but it's like a voltage regulator. So not sure whether it works for this saga or not.
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no need 1
since urs is 14 inch

carb and ignition tuning diferent
carb is air / fuel
ignition is distributor firing timing

need both properrly calibrate go gain better fc

nope our 4g13 no have ecu if carb
no need go buy all those hocus pokus stuff that claim save fuel
better of use the money to get ur engine properrly tuned
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QUOTE(cadmus @ May 8 2011, 11:19 PM)
how much should i be budgeting if i were to go for 4g15?

and for the exhaust modification, what kind of modification are we talking about(exhaust kit etc etc)? cos i plan to visit some accessory shops and tell them specifically for such modification. At least they know what i'm talking about.
i see, thanks for your advice. will check tommoro what is my current aircon on/off rpm setting.

For fuel consumption + acceleration, i would need to go for proper carb tuning. maybe will ask my mechanic to have a look at the tuning again and ask him to adjust for better mileage without loosing much power.

For break system, how much is a decent breaking system? i kinda drive fast and the car sometimes stops to close to being in an accident ><. So my thought was if i have a better breaking system, at least it stop further from accident. This include to change to a better tyre.
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for a 4g15 block and internal cost around 1k
then transplant cost and endorsement cost plus wear and tear item maybe around 1.5k
total 2.5 to 4k
my advise la
if not a power freak no need go bother by 1.5 block conversion
i found out 1.3 have slightlly better fc than 1.5
plus rozz play around 1.3 with minor upgrade
word is damm strong wor can neck to neck with modded 1.5 brows.gif
need senior here clarified brows.gif

exhaust can be from simply backbox upgrade to whole exxhaust system upgrade
starting from the extractor to mid piping to back box
depend on you what you wanted than we can help you better

if a engine properlly tuned than you wont have fc and power issue
remember the fc and power when you got the car brows.gif

braking system you can start from sourcing a double layer servo from mitsu vr4 , evo 3 , pajero or from honda
cost start from 150 buck
will help you assist more in applying force to the brake caliper
price start from 150 at halfcut shop price
then change ur brake fluid to new fluid
then get a better brake pad and a aftermarket ventalited disk
later not enuff get a rear disk conversoin and a twin periuk vr4 front disk brows.gif


Added on May 9, 2011, 12:37 am
QUOTE(Codyx @ May 8 2011, 11:33 PM)
Just to know how much is all your LMST owner FC(1.3 stock)

let's say for 100km rate

fuel choice and drive pattern

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65 buck 449km
i lazy mau divide
driving style young blood lo but most of time stuck at traffic jam doh.gif
esso ron 95

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post May 9 2011, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ May 9 2011, 12:53 AM)
accessories shop? what you want them to recomend you? LED LIGHTS? SURBO?  laugh.gif

Best setup for city usage is, 4-2-1 extractor , straight tru mid box, exhaust pipe (s-flow or straight flow) depends on you. But if you do not like noise. Stick to ori.

but dont expect so much gain from just exhaust modification.
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post May 9 2011, 11:24 AM

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haiz
a word of advise
dont just check ur engine oil
check ur gb oil olso
my gb oil dint take notice until kering d
just now masuk oil olso cannot save d
due to replacement doh.gif
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post May 10 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Chan320 @ May 9 2011, 05:01 PM)
Bro,hw to check gb oil?there is no stick oh....any instruction to check? smile.gif
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find the speedo cable follow from ur firewall
remove the cable and remove a no.10 nut attatch to a gear casing that hold the gear to pusing ur speedo
must ketuk ketuk
then you can see the oil level directlly

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