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TSfsjaya
post Jan 19 2011, 07:49 AM, updated 15y ago

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hi there, not sure i am in the correct section or not. i would like to get opinions on music lessons for a 5-6 year old child. is there any lesson that does not require to choose a specific music instrument first, ie the child just start off with 'basic'? i hv asked around but mostly offered keybooard and piano courses. (in penang). thanks.
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post Jan 19 2011, 10:55 AM

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Perhaps you are in the wrong section. I believe the Musicians forum had better experts to answer your question. Anyway here are my comments.

The child's interest is the most important here. Children of this age had not acquired the ability to focus attention and concentrate for long periods (like one hour or 45 minutes - the shortest duration for music lessons). You need to rely on their interest to captivated them to last through the lesson.

You can theory only and dont learn any instruments. There are such courses available. Theory starts with identification of notation for the various notes. It also goes into duration of notes (eg how long a note is to be played). Maybe adult cant grasp this without instruments but not a child. They need the demo which comes for the music instruments.

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post Jan 21 2011, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(fsjaya @ Jan 19 2011, 07:49 AM)
hi there, not sure i am in the correct section or not. i would like to get opinions on music lessons for a 5-6 year old child. is there any lesson that does not require to choose a specific music instrument first, ie the child just start off with 'basic'? i hv asked around but mostly offered keybooard and piano courses. (in penang). thanks.
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I believe the most basic instrument to start with is the keyboard or piano. It is very hard to learn other instrument without the basics. For eg. keyboard have their own pitch ready to be heard. Comparing to violin, it is so difficult to capture the C, D, E, because you need to press your own pitch/tone/key.

No use learning theory without the instrument. waste of time honestly. children like it when they can hear sounds. otherwise, why do some parents buy simple keyboard for their children to knock away when they're like 1-2 years old. if they knock it, means they like it, right.

hope this helps.
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post Jan 22 2011, 08:00 AM

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thanks for the comments. i hv asked around, got a music center offering 'music garten' course (no specific instrument, just sit and listen), and also keyboard course. will bring my son to 'look see' first.
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post Feb 8 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(fsjaya @ Jan 22 2011, 08:00 AM)
thanks for the comments. i hv asked around, got a music center offering 'music garten' course (no specific instrument, just sit and listen), and also keyboard course. will bring my son to 'look see' first.
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You are better off taking your child for concert at Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra (MPO) at KLCC.
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post Feb 17 2011, 09:30 AM

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I also think you should start of with keyboard or piano as they are the easiest to learn.
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post Mar 10 2011, 11:53 AM

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Hi All,

need some opinion.

My son is currently finishing JMC book 1 (yamaha) in PJ. I have moved back to Ipoh but weekend will still be in KL as wife is in KL. Wife is due to give birth next month, and the intention is for her to move to Ipoh after giving birth.

My dilemma is to whether let my son continue JMC book 2 in the same centre in PJ, or move him to Ipoh. I went to the Ipoh centre for a trial, and my observation is that the Ipoh centre teacher is not as creative and dynamic as the PJ one. Some examples, the PJ teacher can sing really in tune while the Ipoh one is flat. The PJ teacher will make the kids sing one by one, but not the Ipoh ones. When it comes to actions for the songs, the PJ one is more creative and lively.

I am ok to continue him with PJ, just abit of a hassle to go back to KL every sat. he is scheduled to complete JMC by age 6 and will commence his primary school in KL, so I wonder if I move him to Ipoh now , will he have any problem catching up with the KL pace during primary.

The kids' playing skills is noticebly lower in the Ipoh class (as the Ipoh teacher made them play one by one during my trial).

The book 2 class commences in April, so need a quick decision. My son also cant make up his mind !

Thanks heaps.
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QUOTE(faceless @ Jan 19 2011, 10:55 AM)
Perhaps you are in the wrong section. I believe the Musicians forum had better experts to answer your question. Anyway here are my comments.

The child's interest is the most important here. Children of this age had not acquired the ability to focus attention and concentrate for long periods (like one hour or 45 minutes - the shortest duration for music lessons). You need to rely on their interest to captivated them to last through the lesson.

You can theory only and dont learn any instruments. There are such courses available. Theory starts with identification of notation for the various notes. It also goes into duration of notes (eg how long a note is to be played). Maybe adult cant grasp this without instruments but not a child. They need the demo which comes for the music instruments.
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The more interaction opportunity and creativity there are, the better the children can learn. Children prefer colors, games, practical activities than merely listening to teachers talk up front. Therefore, it would be a waste of time and energy to send children for only theory class, they can't understand, and they can't interprete either.

QUOTE(faceless @ Feb 8 2011, 10:22 AM)
You are better off taking your child for concert at Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra (MPO) at KLCC.
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Sitting on a chair and listen without one teaching and guide through is different.

QUOTE(tekwei98 @ Mar 10 2011, 11:53 AM)
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Hi Tek Wei, I'm a music graduate, hope I can share my opinions with you here.

Yamaha offers children course namely JMC, it's pretty famous, which I don't think other musical schools offer any relevant course that specially for kids.

According to your situation and your goal on your kid, I would encourage you to send your kid to PJ Yamaha school, which I'm sure it's located in PJ Kelana Jaya. Reasons are:
1. I'm not Yamaha teacher, but I must admit that PJ Kelana Jaya campus is the HQ of Yamaha and its facility is well equipped. I'm not sure about the Ipoh's music centre that you meant though.

2. As you said, teaching methods and teacher's qualification are far better than Ipoh's. To learn everything, despite any academic subjects or skills, the most important step is to get your fundamental and basic knowledge strong. Many of my students do not know how to place their fingers on the piano, do not know how to adjust their piano chair according to the height of their wrist and elbow, do not know how to play a note with finger tips etc. As a non-musical learner like you, who can differentiate the music tone not singing in tune, how can the teacher be teaching a kid and how would you expect your kid to improve?

3. Traveling south and north would be quite tiring to kid. Giving your kid an instrument would help them in cultivating interest in music, and I'm not sure if you have a keyboard or piano in Ipoh. Anyhow, traveling life can be adapted along times. I think this issue is not as important as teacher's qualification and teaching methods, which I have mentioned in point 1 and 2.

Hope my info helps.
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post Mar 10 2011, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Mar 10 2011, 12:30 PM)
The more interaction opportunity and creativity there are, the better the children can learn. Children prefer colors, games, practical activities than merely listening to teachers talk up front. Therefore, it would be a waste of time and energy to send children for only theory class, they can't understand, and they can't interprete either.
Sitting on a chair and listen without one teaching and guide through is different.

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Hi Tek Wei, I'm a music graduate, hope I can share my opinions with you here.

Yamaha offers children course namely JMC, it's pretty famous, which I don't think other musical schools offer any relevant course that specially for kids.

According to your situation and your goal on your kid, I would encourage you to send your kid to PJ Yamaha school, which I'm sure it's located in PJ Kelana Jaya. Reasons are:
1. I'm not Yamaha teacher, but I must admit that PJ Kelana Jaya campus is the HQ of Yamaha and its facility is well equipped. I'm not sure about the Ipoh's music centre that you meant though.

2. As you said, teaching methods and teacher's qualification are far better than Ipoh's. To learn everything, despite any academic subjects or skills, the most important step is to get your fundamental and basic knowledge strong. Many of my students do not know how to place their fingers on the piano, do not know how to adjust their piano chair according to the height of their wrist and elbow, do not know how to play a note with finger tips etc. As a non-musical learner like you, who can differentiate the music tone not singing in tune, how can the teacher be teaching a kid and how would you expect your kid to improve?

3. Traveling south and north would be quite tiring to kid. Giving your kid an instrument would help them in cultivating interest in music, and I'm not sure if you have a keyboard or piano in Ipoh. Anyhow, traveling life can be adapted along times. I think this issue is not as important as teacher's qualification and teaching methods, which I have mentioned in point 1 and 2.

Hope my info helps.
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Hi Debbieyss,

Thank you so much for the insight. My son is currently with the Yamaha at pelangi branch (near to kota damansara). in terms of equipment, comparing current centre in pj with the ipoh, the ipoh one is still using very old and tired looking electones, while the one in pj is newer.

Travelling is not an issue for my son coz he is already travelling with me every weekend back to KL. (he is attending kindergarten in ipoh). We have a piano in ipoh home, so he is playing with it everyday.

My only concern is that whether how will it affect him if i put him with a less superior centre with a less superior teacher (in some certain areas).

Thanks.

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QUOTE(tekwei98 @ Mar 10 2011, 03:03 PM)
My only concern is that whether how will it affect him if i put him with a less superior centre with a less superior teacher (in some certain areas).

Thanks.
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Hi Tek Wei, the main thing to concern about is not the equipment itself, but the capability of the teacher. There are some great teachers out there teaching at students' houses and not using a single equipment of a music centre. A good pianist would know how to perform a song to the best he can by only using a second hand piano; also, a good teacher will know how to teach a student with a teaching method that suits the student.

To get your child educated in musicianship and sensitivity to music, a good teacher is a must.

Hope I have answered your doubts.

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post Mar 10 2011, 05:39 PM

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not sure if TS found the suitable music lesson or class for his child but yamaha have a basic music lesson for toddler and young kids. It does not have any particular musical instrument. Parents need to attend the class together with the child also. This is some sort of introduction to music kinda class. The child will learn about notes, beats, melody and so on.

This is a very good basic lesson if you are not sure if you child is into music or not.

 

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